How long should I give for new bloodwork?

[Brah02]

I am on TRT prescribed by my dr, but I am going to do a cycle with EQ/Test/Anavar. Because EQ is a longer half life, how long should I expect it to fuck up my lipids/rbc for bloods after I stop? My dr knows I have used more than my TRT dose in the past as well as deca/anavar/primo, but he will be moving beginning of next year to another state. Since my new doc likely won't have a bodybuilding background, I don't want to fuck up and lose the TRT for abusing it, I am not sure if they can cut you off cold turkey?

I also just got back from my dr appt, and he strongly advised against EQ and suggested Primo again, but I can't get ahold of any Primo and already bought the EQ lol He said my bloodwork looked perfect and EQ would fuck it up.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Half life on eq is a mile long. So you're probably looking at a couple months after your last pin to see bloodwork return to normal. I wouldn't really expect eq to do anything different to your lab work than primo though. In some individuals it may lower e2 even more than primo. And if your doctor tests for E1(he probably doesn't. Why would he?) that would be high on eq

 

[Brah02]

Half life on eq is a mile long. So you're probably looking at a couple months after your last pin to see bloodwork return to normal. I wouldn't really expect eq to do anything different to your lab work than primo though. In some individuals it may lower e2 even more than primo. And if your doctor tests for E1(he probably doesn't. Why would he?) that would be high on eq

Problem was when I did primo it was 12 weeks, so I was off 3 months before my bloodwork for the dr. EQ is a longer cycle so I won’t have as much time off it before bloodwork. My main concern is RBC, and lipids being higher, but I can combat that with blood donations and aspirin right? Lipids should come down within 4ish weeks you think?

Or, maybe I should wait until after I meet this new Dr to start the EQ just to gage how his personality will be. I get bloodwork in between my Dr ordered ones through quest so I guess I can just keep an eye on things too.

 

[adrenalytic]

My main concern is RBC, and lipids being higher, but I can combat that with blood donations and aspirin right? Lipids should come down within 4ish weeks you think?

Even if they were elevated, a TRT doc wouldn't necessarily jump to "he's abusing". Lots of things can elevate lipids and erythropoiesis is just a fact of testosterone. But yes, you can just donate if you don't want the hassle of him asking about it.

Anyone on TRT+ should be supplementing 4 grams split twice daily of fish oil. If your diet is clean and you do daily cardio like a good steroid abuser you have nothing to worry about in the lipids department as long as you stop 4 weeks out like you say you will.

 

[Brah02]

Even if they were elevated, a TRT doc wouldn't necessarily jump to "he's abusing". Lots of things can elevate lipids and erythropoiesis is just a fact of testosterone. But yes, you can just donate if you don't want the hassle of him asking about it.

Anyone on TRT+ should be supplementing 4 grams split twice daily of fish oil. If your diet is clean and you do daily cardio like a good steroid abuser you have nothing to worry about in the lipids department as long as you stop 4 weeks out like you say you will.

Sounds good thank you! I need to increase my fish oil then, i've just been doing 2g. Also I literally laughed out loud "like a good steroid abuser" so true haha thanks for that!

 

[adrenalytic]

Sounds good thank you! I need to increase my fish oil then, i've just been doing 2g.

4 grams of the highest EPA/DEA you can find. I get prescription Lovaza from my doc, ask yours about it. They usually will just give it out if you're in a certain risk group (say you have family history of bad lipids or w/e, they don't check).

Also I literally laughed out loud "like a good steroid abuser"

Haha, well unless you have a script and you're following your doctor's orders to a T (pun intended) you're abusing steroids. I think it's important that we stay reminded of this on a harm reduction site. People get too lax with these compounds. Yes, we can abuse steroids responsibly but in the end, it is still abuse of a scheduled drug.

 

[Brah02]

4 grams of the highest EPA/DEA you can find. I get prescription Lovaza from my doc, ask yours about it. They usually will just give it out if you're in a certain risk group (say you have family history of bad lipids or w/e, they don't check).



Haha, well unless you have a script and you're following your doctor's orders to a T (pun intended) you're abusing steroids. I think it's important that we stay reminded of this on a harm reduction site. People get too lax with these compounds. Yes, we can abuse steroids responsibly but in the end, it is still abuse of a scheduled drug.

I'll do that!

Yeah that is very true! Funny thing is, a couple years ago before I found my current dr that I love, I had one of those health clinic dr's that "specializes in mens hormones" and I convinced her to prescribe me Deca for the joint benefits lol I ended up getting it from UGL though because it ended up being way to expensive and difficult to find a decent compounding pharmacy.

 

[adrenalytic]

I convinced her to prescribe me Deca for the joint benefits lol

Ya, those TRT clinics are just legalized drug dealers. Pretty crazy stuff goes on there. They don't really care about your health as long as you keep paying. You're a mark to them.