What would you suggest in place of Primo?

[Slowww]

Yeah I am doing a bulk so I think EQ would be a good addition. I don't want to crash my estrogen so was thinking maybe starting out around 500 test/250EQ but I am not sure if thats too low EQ to really have much of an effect for bulking?

I can get Masteron but I am prone to hairloss so that is my only reason i've been avoiding it.

250 is fine, it definitely works haha. It’s 50% more gear right? you can always add more if you need to later

 

[adrenalytic]

Would you say its better during a cut phase or a bulk phase?

This is my first run with it so I have no idea but I'm using it to bulk since it's purported to have a greater anabolism : androgenicity ratio than test. There are better drugs for cutting.

 

[xrayphoton13]

You have a lot of options. I like test and AI plus anavar or anadrol.

 

[Brah02]

250 is fine, it definitely works haha. It’s 50% more gear right? you can always add more if you need to later

Very true. I just see a lot of people post their cycle and they're running like 6-800mg with 400-500 test which seems lop sided for EQ shouldnt the EQ be at the most 1-1?

 

[BigDadd7]

Very true. I just see a lot of people post their cycle and they're running like 6-800mg with 400-500 test which seems lop sided for EQ shouldnt the EQ be at the most 1-1?

Make sure the people/cycles you follow include before and after bloodwork. There are a lot of idiots in here damaging their heart/liver/kidneys, but saying they feel fine. Be smarter than that.

 

[Brah02]

Make sure the people/cycles you follow include before and after bloodwork. There are lot of idiots in here damaging their heart/liver/kidneys, but saying they feel fine. Be smarter than that.

I am very lucky that my dr used to be a bodybuilder, so he keeps me on a pretty regular bloodwork schedule. He won't give me advice on which compounds to use (although has told me stories of why he would not use something if I tell him i'm looking at it so I like that he's very open) but he'll keep me on top of things should bloods look funky. But this is great advice thank you!

 

[Brah02]

You have a lot of options. I like test and AI plus anavar or anadrol.

Yeah, I am thinking i'll add Anavar to a test base after I try out EQ for a stint. I've used Anavar before. Never used anadrol though.

 

[F41l0r1337]

High Test + AI / EQ
GH

TEST IS BEST > PRIMO/MAST

 

[120nmol]

I really don’t understand the point of searching a different compound because nobody can find mast/primo
Get yourself plenty of test e/c/p whatever you can get aromasin to control e2 and little bit of tren
Test 1 gram
Aromasin as needed
Tren ace 100mg a week
And you’ll grow you’ll grow….
No need EQ/dhb..

 

[Brah02]

I really don’t understand the point of searching a different compound because nobody can find mast/primo
Get yourself plenty of test e/c/p whatever you can get aromasin to control e2 and little bit of tren
Test 1 gram
Aromasin as needed
Tren ace 100mg a week
And you’ll grow you’ll grow….
No need EQ/dhb..

Because I am already irritable, and horny like an 18 year old. I have never done Tren but from friends that have, they get substantially more irritable and horny. I am married, i'd be divorced by the end of my cycle lol

 

[BigDadd7]

I really don’t understand the point of searching a different compound because nobody can find mast/primo
Get yourself plenty of test e/c/p whatever you can get aromasin to control e2 and little bit of tren
Test 1 gram
Aromasin as needed
Tren ace 100mg a week
And you’ll grow you’ll grow….
No need EQ/dhb..

Tren at 100 is manageable and noticeable. Same with a small dose of eq.

 

[Slowww]

Very true. I just see a lot of people post their cycle and they're running like 6-800mg with 400-500 test which seems lop sided for EQ shouldnt the EQ be at the most 1-1?

That’s not weird at all. Everyone responds differently. I need n Ai even with more Eq than test. If I do 750 test 600 eq, the Eq still won’t control my e2. If I run 500 test- 600eq I still don’t have any trouble crashing my estrogen. stating moderately with Eq will help find how your body deals with it.

 

[RockyP]

Low dose Tren. Final answer.

 

[F41l0r1337]

That’s not weird at all. Everyone responds differently. I need n Ai even with more Eq than test. If I do 750 test 600 eq, the Eq still won’t control my e2. If I run 500 test- 600eq I still don’t have any trouble crashing my estrogen. stating moderately with Eq will help find how your body deals with it.

im also that 1T:2EQ guy x).. but 700 EQ per week is my limit(HCT 49,9%) - at 1050EQ and 350 Test my E2 was lower end(15) and HCT 53-54% i remember

 

[Slowww]

im also that 1T:2EQ guy x).. but 700 EQ per week is my limit(HCT 49,9%) - at 1050EQ and 350 Test my E2 was lower end(15) and HCT 53-54% i remember

thats fair, if I run EQ at a gram I also suspect it would put my HCT slightly out of range. By the end of my blast if I have 600 it is always at the borderline. 1g at 53/54 sounds like a very reasonable expectation

 

[ChemBB]

nobody can find mast/primo

Primo has gotten harder to come by (why anybody pays x3 as much for it as Masteron I will never know...)

But you can still grab Mast in a lot of places

 

[Ruru_Teh_seks]

Low dose Tren. Final answer.

with a little bit of EQ? haha

 

[F41l0r1337]

Primo has gotten harder to come by (why anybody pays x3 as much for it as Masteron I will never know...)

But you can still grab Mast in a lot of places

i´ve been using mast over 2 years.. on bulk and cut.. recently i switched test+mast to double test + ai, gainz and LDL way better!.(bulk). only good for look / lowering shbg at first.. my few cents..

 

[ChemBB]

i´ve been using mast over 2 years.. on bulk and cut.. recently i switched test+mast to double test + ai, gainz and LDL way better!.(bulk). only good for look / lowering shbg at first.. my few cents..

What about double test + mast?

 

[F41l0r1337]

What about double test + mast?

matters how you body can tolerate/manage, rather tripple TEST

did a bulk with 2,7G and one with 1,75G.. the bulk with 1,75G Total per week was way better as the 2,7G.. with all that carbs my body cant clear that toxins out - thats my thesis, on a cut your body can!