Hair Loss

[JakkieJoopie]

I got on fin when I was 18 because hair loss runs in the family on both sides.

I've only run one cycle so far. Earlier this year. 500mg testosterone per week for 16 weeks. Added Anavar at week 10 but only ran it for 3 weeks because the shedding was crazy. Obviously dustaride couldn't do anything about it since Anavar is a DHT derivative and bypasses it. Definitely saw some serious thinning but got on oral minoxidil and I'd say I'm back to my baseline prior to Anavar. I'll stay on minoxidil for a year and then probably come off to see if things are stable. I also ran topical KX-826 while on Anavar but that didn't do shit.

What I learned is that I'm definitely limited on the compounds I can use. My DHT levels on dustaride and 500mg testosterone were like 3 or 4 per labs so it definitely kept the testosterone in check.

 

[maybechris]

Can anyone recommend a micro needling pen? I read that 0.6mm is sufficiently deep, what do you think?

Oral medication that goes in the blood with control over dosage etc.
Topical + dermatology roller that creates direct access to bloodstream and can never be doses properly

 

[ToesOverKnees]

Oral medication that goes in the blood with control over dosage etc.
Topical + dermatology roller that creates direct access to bloodstream and can never be doses properly

I can't take oral Fin or Dut, they both cause rapid depression unfortunately

 

[maybechris]

I can't take oral Fin or Dut, they both cause rapid depression unfortunately

Have you tried taking fin super low dose and titrating up? Starting e.g. with 0.25mg 3x per week?

Topical combined with microneedling is going to go systematic too.

 

[Jackedjack8273648]

Been on finasteride for 20 years and run dustaride whenever on a cycle. It definitely works and never had any side effects aside from a decrease in ejaculation volume for about 3 weeks whenever I start dustaride. It does normalize again though.

Do you run the finasteride and dutasteride together or switch to dutasteride while on cycle?

 

[k710]

Ive been experiencing some hair shedding/thinning. Using a dht derivative I started looking into DHT receptor binding topicals that wouldnt have a systemic effect like orals meds and their accompanied side effects.

Looked at both RU-58841 and KX-826. RU is still a research chemical, but kx-826 is finishing its its Phase 3 clinical studies with significant measurable results and great safety profile. Little systemic affect and no sexuals side affects have been reported.

Ordered KX-826 from China and just landed in the states. Hoping its delivered this upcoming week so I can start my trial.

 

[JakkieJoopie]

Do you run the finasteride and dutasteride together or switch to dutasteride while on cycle?

I switch to Dustaride a couple of weeks before the cycle, run it during the cycle and for a few weeks after and then switch back to finasteride.

Ive been experiencing some hair shedding/thinning. Using a dht derivative I started looking into DHT receptor binding topicals that wouldnt have a systemic effect like orals meds and their accompanied side effects.

Looked at both RU-58841 and KX-826. RU is still a research chemical, but kx-826 is finishing its its Phase 3 clinical studies with significant measurable results and great safety profile. Little systemic affect and no sexuals side affects have been reported.

Ordered KX-826 from China and just landed in the states. Hoping its delivered this upcoming week so I can start my trial.

Unfortunately KX-826 didn't work for me. I started using it a couple of weeks before getting on Anavar and then using it twice a day while on Anavar but still experienced massive shedding that I had to stop Anavar. The shedding continued for about 6 weeks after stopping Anavar and at that point I had visibly thinned areas. Luckily it's all grown back in though I did add oral Minoxidil to the dustaride after that.

 

[the~club~bro]

How much anavar were you taking? On paper, you would think anavar would be a good hair safe compound given its low androgenic rating, clinical track record and acceptance among female athletes.

 

[JakkieJoopie]

How much anavar were you taking? On paper, you would think anavar would be a good hair safe compound given its low androgenic rating, clinical track record and acceptance among female athletes.

25mg twice a day. Yeah that's why I tried it but seems I'm more prone.

 

[the~club~bro]

It might not be anavar explicitly causing the shedding. You added an extra 50mg per day which increases the weekly load by 350mg.

Even with 5AR usage to reduce DHT, we should consider that the total load from all compounds will impact hair health over time. At some point, the non DHT androgenic load will start killing hair follicles.

For me personally, I would not assume Anavar is causing the shedding, but perhaps the combined load of 850mg might be the trigger, and for instance 850mg of testosterone alone could potentially be worse for hair.

Im still inclined to think anavar is probably less damaging to hair given its lower androgenic rating on paper, clinical use and females using it with success.

Ultimately, running the lowest androgen doses possible and leveraging other pathways like GH & Insulin is all we can do to preserve hair.

 

[AGDP]

I’m near 3 months post hair transplant. Using fina 0.5mg 3 x a week and Minoxidil 2.5mg a day. Been off gear about 4/5 months. Looking to go back on soon, nothing major just a little bit of test 200-300mg a week and some HGH daily. Would the above protocol be enough to protect the proposed dosages? Not worried about the transplanted hair just the remaining native hair.

 

[Scooby69]

Been on finasteride for 20 years and run dustaride whenever on a cycle. It definitely works and never had any side effects aside from a decrease in ejaculation volume for about 3 weeks whenever I start dustaride. It does normalize again though.

I got on fin when I was 18 because hair loss runs in the family on both sides.

I've only run one cycle so far. Earlier this year. 500mg testosterone per week for 16 weeks. Added Anavar at week 10 but only ran it for 3 weeks because the shedding was crazy. Obviously dustaride couldn't do anything about it since Anavar is a DHT derivative and bypasses it. Definitely saw some serious thinning but got on oral minoxidil and I'd say I'm back to my baseline prior to Anavar. I'll stay on minoxidil for a year and then probably come off to see if things are stable. I also ran topical KX-826 while on Anavar but that didn't do shit.

What I learned is that I'm definitely limited on the compounds I can use. My DHT levels on dustaride and 500mg testosterone were like 3 or 4 per labs so it definitely kept the testosterone in check.

What dose of dutasteride have you used? The standard 0.5 mg/day? I've been on fiansteride 1 mg/day for five years now. Was considering a switch to dutasteride since I have started test recently.

Oral minoxidil has been great for me also.

 

[AlbanVautier]

It is what it is hair loss is hair loss it will have happened some days tho

 

[Gradoe]

Ive been experiencing some hair shedding/thinning. Using a dht derivative I started looking into DHT receptor binding topicals that wouldnt have a systemic effect like orals meds and their accompanied side effects.

Looked at both RU-58841 and KX-826. RU is still a research chemical, but kx-826 is finishing its its Phase 3 clinical studies with significant measurable results and great safety profile. Little systemic affect and no sexuals side affects have been reported.

Ordered KX-826 from China and just landed in the states. Hoping its delivered this upcoming week so I can start my trial.

Did you receive it? If so, started it yet? What is the formulation you use?

 

[k710]

Did you receive it? If so, started it yet? What is the formulation you use?

Not yet unfortunately. Customs had it for quite a while before it finally got released from NY. It went to NJ and now on its way to me but thats all I got so far.

It actually got to customs on 10/2. Says it was processed through customs that night, but delivery partner didnt pick it up till 10/14.

Im still shedding hair decently, so very much looking forward to it arriving and throwing it on my head.

I got the 0.9% formulation (purple colored cap). I ordered it directly from the manufacturer conducting these trials, Koshine 0.9% KX-826. The have a 0.5% and then some other one that has other hair stuff in it but I was just interested in the dht blocker

 

[Heretolearn]

Are yall donating blood on fin?

 

[JK1]

Are yall donating blood on fin?

Where i am I believe you can't. Havent needed to yet but if I did i wouldn't do it. I use dut now.

 

[Heretolearn]

Where i am I believe you can't. Havent needed to yet but if I did i wouldn't do it. I use dut now.

Fin says wait 1 month , dut says wait six months. I haven’t been able to find any place to buy dut or ru58841 but I need to figure out something . Starting to look like a monk and I am not someone who looks good with a shaved head. lol

 

[JK1]

Fin says wait 1 month , dut says wait six months. I haven’t been able to find any place to buy dut or ru58841 but I need to figure out something . Starting to look like a monk and I am not someone who looks good with a shaved head. lol

Not sure if we are talking about the same thing but you'd have to go on the rules provided by the place you donate to. Where I am, its very clearly part of the application process.

Dut is available widely from Indian based vendors.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Fin says wait 1 month , dut says wait six months. I haven’t been able to find any place to buy dut or ru58841 but I need to figure out something .

If you can't find a cheap china source for RU, Anageninc has it (probably the same raws)

Not sure if we are talking about the same thing but you'd have to go on the rules provided by the place you donate to. Where I am, its very clearly part of the application process.

Dut is available widely from Indian based vendors.

@Heretolearn you shouldn't have to look far to find dut