TRT Doctor Approval + Masteron Advice

[nekojeeta]

Looking for some advice…

I’m getting TRT via my primary doctor, which means it’s super cheap and I’m worried that they
doc might cut me off/back in dose due to Total T levels being too high and I’m looking for some advice (I get prescribed 3-months worth but it actually lasts me 5-6 months as my actual dose is less than what she prescribes).

I’m doing 20mg daily IM shots (at night) and my recent bloodwork (self paid doesn’t go to doctor) showed my Total T at 1200, which is slightly over the max range that the bloodwork provider recommends (I feel great).

I’m trying to figure out if I can just skip a few daily doses, and if so how many, to get back to a normal range for a one off bloodwork for the doc (I basically can go about 6-9 months before I need to get another bloodwork done for reapproval)

I’m actually hoping to move up to 25mg daily right after my next doc appointment to see if I get sides or not… then once I find my max tolerable dose start adding in some Masteron E. So, I had four questions on the Masteron piece as well:

- does Masteron E impact my Total T levels at all (based on my research I think the answer is no)

- what bloodwork do I need to watch the closest with Masteron E? (I’m thinking it’s LDL, HDL, RBC/Hematocrit, then blood pressure)

- I try to follow the safer use method but I’m a little confused on how much masteron to add initially for daily shots. Would 5mg a daily to start be a waste (not sure if it has a similar potentially mg for mg as test or if it’s a completely different conversion)

- MPB doesn’t run in my family but my hair has thinned a little as I get older… my dht bloodwork also showed I’m on the higher end of date range so I’m wondering if I should proactively take some dutasteride and if so how much as I increase my test and add in mast

 

[bigead]

I get tested every 6 months, I drip down to my prescribed dose a month before blood work.

 

[phenominal34]

- I try to follow the safer use method but I’m a little confused on how much masteron to add initially for daily shots. Would 5mg a daily to start be a waste (not sure if it has a similar potentially mg for mg as test or if it’s a completely different conversion)

Yes it most def would. Keep researching and reading up but the very minimum I would say is 15-20 mg a day if you want to start very low.

 

[BabaJagga]

maybe start with P ester if you are doin daily shots? to see how you cope with it.

 

[Banana Joe]

If you get other compounds from UG anyway, I can't see why you would go through the hassle of getting a prescription for Test. Test is so cheap I don't even consider its cost for a TRT dose anymore.
And if you just do some research in this very forum, you won't have a hard time finding a good vendor.

Apart form that Mast E might skew your E2 in a way that it might raise some questions.

 

[archive]

mast might smash SHBG a bit more than other compounds, which could affect free T. SHBG suppression is dose dependent

 

[lvz]

why do u even bother with a trt clinic if ure already sourcing masteron elsewhere, just get test e ull only have to inject twice a week, or i guess test p if u rly like stabbing urself daily / eod but that will build up a lot of scar tissue rly fast if u do it long term

if ur concern is cost and not being able to get it as cheap without the trt clinic i am 90% sure most labs on here most likely sell at a lower price that ure getting urs for

 

[lvz]

also since i didnt rly answer ur question, no, masteron will not decrease ur test levels, it will however increase ur free test levels which im pretty sure is the opposite of what ure trying to achieve

 

[4Drago]

The easiest thing to do is get some test p, since you do daily shots anyway. You can simply continue with your prescribed dose for trt and add test p accordingly... as high as you desire.

Then I'd just remove the test p from the equation about 2 weeks before you go in for your scheduled bloodwork. You can do the same thing with mast p if you desire. I wouldn't use mast e. Your doing daily injections so mast p is perfect.

Masteron is a mild steriod. It's great for removing subq water retention, eleviating e2 sides without reducing e2, and increasing free test (which is a good thing). I use just enough for these benefits and let the test do the work. No more moon face to worry about is nice. Some people don't like mast but I love it and it's a part of every cycle I do. I don't have hair so that's not a concern lol.

If you have extra test from Your prescription you could use that early, in the beginning of your cycle. Then switch to test p as mentioned earlier. But I'd want to stop the long ester test from your prescription at least 4-6 weeks before your bloodwork appointment... just to be safe. This is assuming it's test c, or test e... not something very long acting like test u.

If your worried about your lipids and other negative numbers showing up on your appointment labs, then I'd change a few things. I assume you test every 6 months? If so I'd do a 4 month cycle then switch back to prescribed trt for the last 2 months. 2 months should give you time to drop down to previously tested numbers and not raise too many flags. Also donate blood at the 4 month mark as well, when the cycle is over.

 

[4Drago]

Here's a helpful link to plot your cycle and get a feel on timing things.

Cycle planner

With masteron I like to do a 2:1 ratio of test to mast. 1:1 works too if you handle it well. I personally find that masteron allows me to do much higher doses of test with no side effects.

Masteron will effect lipids and other markers but 2 months should be enough time to bring everything back down. You need to monitor everything you listed as a possible concern. You can do your own labs about 2 months into your 4 month cycle to be safe and get an idea how it effects you.

I'm not sure how high of doses you want to take things, but 500mg test 250mg mast each week is a decent cycle. If you have no issues with things like gyno this is a great moderate cycle. Test is one of the safer compounds and mast is very mild like I said.

If you end up needing to use an AI, use aromasin not adex! Adex (Arimidex) is known to ruin labs easily.

 

[4Drago]

If you want to stick to your prescribed test ester (as long as it's not test u) and masteron e, then I'd do a 4 month cycle and then drop back to trt doses for the next 2 months.

 

[4Drago]

Finally, usually I'd recommend first seeing how you handle test before introducing another compound. But it's test and you're already on a prescription and I'm guessing you handle it pretty well so far.
So in this situation I recommend you start dosing the masteron at the same time you begin to increase your test. Use a 2:1 ration of test to mast as mentioned. If you start to get sides you don't like, once you've hit your desired dose, then bring it back a little.
The reasoning behind this is because the mast is going to play a big roll in how well you handle higher test due to its ability to eliminate/minimize sides.
Just remember mast doesn't get rid of e2 it just helps with sides from aas that aromatize. Most people seem to like keeping e2 around 60 and no higher then 100. But everyone's different.

And yes. Masteron will effect your total test levels on labs. I think I covered all your questions. Sometimes I get a little carried away with assisting others lol.

 

[earnthegear]

why do u even bother with a trt clinic if ure already sourcing masteron elsewhere, just get test e ull only have to inject twice a week, or i guess test p if u rly like stabbing urself daily / eod but that will build up a lot of scar tissue rly fast if u do it long term

if ur concern is cost and not being able to get it as cheap without the trt clinic i am 90% sure most labs on here most likely sell at a lower price that ure getting urs for

I pay $5 for 4) 200mg viles with insurance and dr presc trt, so he may have a good thing going as well.

 

[sorprenda]

If you have extra test from Your prescription you could use that early, in the beginning of your cycle. Then switch to test p as mentioned earlier.

Couldn't propionate also be a good way to more efficiently determine the max tolerable dose? This is something I am considering now - seeing just how much P I can add.

 

[Chrispy62]

Just finished my first blast cycle of 700 mg test for 16 weeks and 20 mg anavar for 8 weeks. Blood came back fine and as expected with HDL slightly below threshold and sbhg slightly low too so planning on taking a good cruise to recover.

I was on prescribed TRT at 100 mg sustanon a week but now I’m supplementing that to 200 mg test. I was thinking of adding 100 mg mast on top of it because I’ve heard side effects are minimal and will help with a cut which I’m doing atm along with Retatrutide. Thoughts?

 

[BabaJagga]

Just finished my first blast cycle of 700 mg test for 16 weeks and 20 mg anavar for 8 weeks. Blood came back fine and as expected with HDL slightly below threshold and sbhg slightly low too so planning on taking a good cruise to recover.

I was on prescribed TRT at 100 mg sustanon a week but now I’m supplementing that to 200 mg test. I was thinking of adding 100 mg mast on top of it because I’ve heard side effects are minimal and will help with a cut which I’m doing atm along with Retatrutide. Thoughts?

probably wont hurt but probably wont help either. expect cholesterol numbers to not improve, probably.

i plan to cruise on 200/100 test/mast next year as well.

 

[4Drago]

100mg sust/100mg mast per week and I feel great on trt. Lab work looks great after 2 months off cycle.

I have my cycles worked out to where I'm back at trt levels 2 months before doc lab work. This gives me time for everything to level out. I also do my own lab work mid cycle on my own. Numbers mid cycle are only slightly off.
Lately I'm 4 months on blast, 8 months trt.

The best my labs ever were (in the past 10 yrs) was when I said fuck the docs and ate mainly red meat, some fruit, some rice, and some dairy. So this is what I try to stick to. I've ate mainly meat my whole life, then got married and started the carb with every meal thing and a veggie. Thats about the time I started having cholesterol issues. Surprised the hell out of me. My mom says I couldn't even eat veggies as a baby because they made me sick. I only tolerated well cooked peas and carrots without throwing up.

It's funny how babies love meat, fruit, and dairy like cheese and cottage cheese. But they hate many veggies. Maybe that's for a reason? They'll eat the crap out of some potatoes and yams though (tubors... roots). I call it the caveman diet.

 

[Drizz]

Finally, usually I'd recommend first seeing how you handle test before introducing another compound. But it's test and you're already on a prescription and I'm guessing you handle it pretty well so far.
So in this situation I recommend you start dosing the masteron at the same time you begin to increase your test. Use a 2:1 ration of test to mast as mentioned. If you start to get sides you don't like, once you've hit your desired dose, then bring it back a little.
The reasoning behind this is because the mast is going to play a big roll in how well you handle higher test due to its ability to eliminate/minimize sides.
Just remember mast doesn't get rid of e2 it just helps with sides from aas that aromatize. Most people seem to like keeping e2 around 60 and no higher then 100. But everyone's different.

And yes. Masteron will effect your total test levels on labs. I think I covered all your questions. Sometimes I get a little carried away with assisting others lol.

Wow @4Drago great responses. I just learned a little more about some questions I was gonna about my cycle planning including Test/Mast. Thank you