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[RoidTeam]

I ordered from them a while ago. The shipping took a lot of time but i received yesterday. However, i received test e from the same batch nr as previously but now the vial is brown, not transparent as it was previously. It is from the same batch nr, but has different design of the vials...is this normal? Have you guys experienced something similar?

Yes, the manufacturer published news on the official website about the change in vial design. Hilma Biocare has started using dark glass vials and bottles. During the transition period, both types of vials and bottles are present in circulation: dark and transparens ones.

 

[Thor21]

So dark and transparent vials have the SAME batch nr?

 

[RoidTeam]

So dark and transparent vials have the SAME batch nr?

As mentioned above, Hilma Biocare allows the replacement of one component with another of equivalent properties within the same batch. This also applies to the appearance of the vials. When switching to a new design (labels, caps, or glass color), the manufacturer may use remaining old materials alongside the new ones. As a result, a single batch may have two types of appearance.

If you have any doubts about the authenticity of the product, you can always verify it on the manufacturer’s official website. If doubts still remain, and if the product was purchased from our store, you may send it to the Janoshik lab, and we will reimburse all documented expenses on your side on your next order.

 

[malomkarom]

You should be more worried about the tons of steroids oils with EO inside who actually come from China actually

As far I know Hilma products never be tested with wrong compound inside, and personally I have never experienced PIP or inflammation even with products like Rip Blend

Go and defend your local drugdealers if you will. Buy whetever yoi want but don't work against the community you use to get your shit.

You have nothing to do with this if you don't care. Order your next round and fuckk off of tis thread.

 

[malomkarom]

As mentioned above, Hilma Biocare allows the replacement of one component with another of equivalent properties within the same batch.

Yes, thats the problem fuckface.

 

[Moulefruit]

Go and defend your local drugdealers if you will. Buy whetever yoi want but don't work against the community you use to get your shit.

You have nothing to do with this if you don't care. Order your next round and fuckk off of tis thread.

Get a Job and leave this thread, the door is open if your big fat ass manages to get through the door

This is the last time I argue with you

Xoxo

 

[malomkarom]

Do you have a medical education and real understanding of production processes? All products undergo a full testing cycle and are produced according to international quality standards. Hilma Biocare has been on the market for over 10 years, and during this time the carrier oil has changed more than once and there have been no complaints. Above we published a response that they allow the replacement of components with others of identical properties.

Hilma are drugdealers. Done. They do dangerous shit like most drugdealers, just like you do. It's hard to complain while dying from an allergy. Both sesame and GSO have enough proof to have caused allergy problems for Hilma and by extension you to announce the difference. The one and only reason you wouldn't is there being other differences. It's EASY damage control to just state you ran out of sesame but have GSO if there was no other difference. There would be nothing wrong with it.

You still have yet to give an answer as to why the tests are for every single batch and not just the one they are a part of.

A batch can't have varying components in it. It's a one-pot cook portioned into vials to make is simple enough for you to understand.

Noone gives a fuck whether it's Hilma or you (THE official distributor for Hilma...) testing the shit but it need to be tested and it's not. You have several brews called 1 batch. That's not just not up to Pharma standards like you claim to hold, it's worse than most known drugdealers on the forum.

You are nowhere near pharma standards which would be absolutely fine, were you not hiding, lying and taking us for a bunch of fools.

You are a fucking wholesale drugdealer (like hilma) and couldn't spare a single ML of each batch for testing. There's a reason you are working so hard against it.

Hell, there's also absolutely no reason for the change whatsoever. You (well... Hilma.. let's pretend you aren't the same thing) just have other brands brewing in the background and use the leftovers of those. Again, there would be nothing wrong with that had you not been lying and just tested it instead of acting like you're a pharmaceutical company making medicine.

Pharma manifacturer making almost blakc tren.... fucking lol

 

[Wrangel7]

As a distributor we always check the product before putting it on sale, as evidenced by regular lab tests and hundreds of regular customers who return to us.

So, @RoidTeam, which is it?

You knew about the change in oil but didn't tell us other than acknowledging it post hoc after being confronted about it, which would be untrustworthy (therefore you are not reliable).

You didn't know about the change in oil because you are just that terrible at checking products but you still tried to "check" them, which would demonstrate gross incompetence (therefore you are not reliable).

You don't actually always check the products and are once again lying to us, which would be untrustworthy (therefore you are not reliable).

 

[Moulefruit]

So, @RoidTeam, which is it?

You knew about the change in oil but didn't tell us other than acknowledging it post hoc after being confronted about it, which would be untrustworthy (therefore you are not reliable).

You didn't know about the change in oil because you are just that terrible at checking products but you still tried to "check" them, which would demonstrate gross incompetence (therefore you are not reliable).

You don't actually always check the products and are once again lying to us, which would be untrustworthy (therefore you are not reliable).

Did you understand that they are simply reseller ? They also sell other brands like Somatrop lab or Marten ?
How many sources also sell Hilma biocare on this forum ? Why you keep incriminate Roidteam particularly and not the other seller in this case ?
They give you the explanation from the Hilma factory what more do you want ?
Are we really making a scandal over an oil change? Seriously?
The guy bought Tren he receveid Tren, they never told you that you will buy mct or grapeseed oil, they just sell the right compound

 

[Wrangel7]

Did you understand that they are simply reseller ? They also sell other brands like Somatrop lab or Marten ?
How many sources also sell Hilma biocare on this forum ? Why you keep incriminate Roidteam particularly and not the other seller in this case ?
They give you the explanation from the Hilma factory what more do you want ?
Are we really making a scandal over an oil change? Seriously?
The guy bought Tren he receveid Tren, they never told you that you will buy mct or grapeseed oil, they just sell the right compound

If English isn't your first language, you may use a translator to assist you. I do not mean this disrespectfully.

As a distributor we always check the product before putting it on sale

Then why didn't you inform us of the change in oil?

Now you can't pretend you didn't know and avoid contradicting yourself simultaneously.

 

[Moulefruit]

If English isn't your first language, you may use a translator to assist you. I do not mean this disrespectfully.

Did you understand that they're just resellers? They also sell other brands like Somatrop Lab or Marten?
How many sources also sell Hilma Biocare on this forum? Why do you keep blaming Roidteam in particular and not the other seller in this case?
They give you the Hilma factory's explanation, what more do you want?
Are we really making a fuss over an oil change? Seriously?
The guy bought Tren, he received it. They never told you you'd be buying MCT or grapeseed oil; they just sell the correct compound.

 

[malomkarom]

Did you understand that they're just resellers? They also sell other brands like Somatrop Lab or Marten?
How many sources also sell Hilma Biocare on this forum? Why do you keep blaming Roidteam in particular and not the other seller in this case?
They give you the Hilma factory's explanation, what more do you want?
Are we really making a fuss over an oil change? Seriously?
The guy bought Tren, he received it. They never told you you'd be buying MCT or grapeseed oil; they just sell the correct compound.

Oh we've got a spamming shill. Great. I missed having a 5yo getting payed to defend his mommy.

 

[Wrangel7]

Did you understand that they're just resellers? They also sell other brands like Somatrop Lab or Marten?
How many sources also sell Hilma Biocare on this forum? Why do you keep blaming Roidteam in particular and not the other seller in this case?
They give you the Hilma factory's explanation, what more do you want?
Are we really making a fuss over an oil change? Seriously?
The guy bought Tren, he received it. They never told you you'd be buying MCT or grapeseed oil; they just sell the correct compound.

The communication barrier may transcend grammatical superficialities, perhaps.

 

[Moulefruit]

The communication barrier may transcend grammatical superficialities, perhaps.

I understand, I can't ask you to be more tolerant with non-English people because I, for example, am totally fatphobic, that's why I'm stopping talking to Malomkarom

 

[juicebro]

Did you understand that they're just resellers? They also sell other brands like Somatrop Lab or Marten?
How many sources also sell Hilma Biocare on this forum? Why do you keep blaming Roidteam in particular and not the other seller in this case?
They give you the Hilma factory's explanation, what more do you want?
Are we really making a fuss over an oil change? Seriously?
The guy bought Tren, he received it. They never told you you'd be buying MCT or grapeseed oil; they just sell the correct compound.

Somatrop and Hilma are basically the same thing. Different packages.

The whole point is that we rely on lab tests for quality assurance. If a batch tests well I feel confident stocking up on it. I also only buy wholesale. So I'm not whining about a single vial but about buying one thing and potentially receiving something else...in wholesale quantities.

Although to be completely fair I have never had a reason to doubt the quality of Hilma's products and that's all I've used for the last 4 or so years. I don't think I've seen any bad lab tests that were completely off either. So Hilma has earned a good reputation and they'd be fools to jeopardize it. The oil thing does raise some questions and rightfully so. Hopefully Hilma will do something about it in the future. Roidteam gave an explanation and offered to cover the lab test. Can't really ask for any more than that.

 

[RoidTeam]

Somatrop and Hilma are basically the same thing. Different packages.

The whole point is that we rely on lab tests for quality assurance. If a batch tests well I feel confident stocking up on it. I also only buy wholesale. So I'm not whining about a single vial but about buying one thing and potentially receiving something else...in wholesale quantities.

Although to be completely fair I have never had a reason to doubt the quality of Hilma's products and that's all I've used for the last 4 or so years. I don't think I've seen any bad lab tests that were completely off either. So Hilma has earned a good reputation and they'd be fools to jeopardize it. The oil thing does raise some questions and rightfully so. Hopefully Hilma will do something about it in the future. Roidteam gave an explanation and offered to cover the lab test. Can't really ask for any more than that.

Thank you for your trust and feedback! We value your support and are always open to constructive dialogue.

 

[RoidTeam]

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[JabbedUp]

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Why are you so shy about the recent criticisms and questions? Why won’t you just openly and honestly address them?
You’re starting to look like you’re devolving into a total fucking ratbag scammer saaar

 

[Wrangel7]

Why are you so shy about the recent criticisms and questions? Why won’t you just openly and honestly address them?

Seems to be a fair question.

@RoidTeam, address this:​

As a distributor we always check the product before putting it on sale, as evidenced by regular lab tests and hundreds of regular customers who return to us.

Then why didn't you inform us of the change in oil?

Now you can't pretend you didn't know and avoid contradicting yourself simultaneously.

So, @RoidTeam, which is it?

You knew about the change in oil but didn't tell us other than acknowledging it post hoc after being confronted about it, which would be untrustworthy (therefore you are not reliable).

You didn't know about the change in oil because you are just that terrible at checking products but you still tried to "check" them, which would demonstrate gross incompetence (therefore you are not reliable).

You don't actually always check the products and are once again lying to us, which would be untrustworthy (therefore you are not reliable).

Also, please stop spamming us with these marketing posts, especially making claims like:

Service that never lets you down

After just being confronted by quite a lot of people who I think it's fair to say have been let down by you.

At some point, should this be considered spam to drown out discussion and reviews and complaints about problems with this source? Where is the line drawn? If not here, then where? 50% more? 100% more? If we agree that having 90% of the chat being filled with those comments is not something we want as a community, then what about 75%, and so on? I think it's excessive already.

More appropriately, "strength is in" consistently delivering high quality products. It appears that so far, there is neither much consistency nor much quality.

What does it cost to not attribute differently made products to the same batch? A difference in carrier oils unannounced is a big deal (allergies for example, as @malomkarom pointed out).

Sure, you can change quality of the product and change carriers. However, INFORM US OF THIS, please! It does not tangibly cost you much.

Consider the impression you are creating by doing this. This is not something which is hard or prohibitive to do, so by not doing it, your customers may be thinking, what other common sense practices that we would expect to be done, are not being done. The set of those practices that they could be now doubting has massively increased because it now includes things that basically cost you nothing!

This likely has already eroded some consumer trust and does not help the impression of a high quality, consistent brand or distributor of brands.

Such actions can lead to large amounts of your existing customers switching. It is no longer the case that AAS are hard to obtain from a reliable source, so if you want to keep those customers give them a reason to stay, instead of more and more reasons to switch.

 

[RoidTeam]

Why are you so shy about the recent criticisms and questions? Why won’t you just openly and honestly address them?

We have already addressed all the questions raised, and you are welcome to re-read our previous messages.

Then why didn't you inform us of the change in oil?

As mentioned earlier, the manufacturer does not place special emphasis on this aspect, the packaging itself states oil-based. In the past, we assumed that clients for whom this detail is critical would clarify it in advance at the stage of placing an order. We are a store, and we test the products we offer at the Janoshik laboratory for active substance content, not for the type of oil. However, we understand that it is more appropriate to inform about such changes publicly and proactively, without requiring additional requests. Over the past years the manufacturer has changed carrier oils several times, and this has never affected product quality, as confirmed by the absence of complaints received by our store.

We are a store, and we test the products we offer at the Janoshik laboratory for active substance content, not for the type of oil. We have taken this situation into account and agree with your comment on the need for open communication. We will certainly follow this approach going forward. Please note that the most reliable source of product information will always be the official manufacturer’s website.

After just being confronted by quite a lot of people who I think it's fair to say have been let down by you.

Some comments were clearly provocative and went beyond the boundaries of constructive and respectful dialogue. We do not engage in such discussions. We always support open and proper communication, so thank you for your balanced and reasonable message. We always do our best to resolve our clients’ concerns. Above, you can also find the reply from a real client who originally raised the question about the oil and later confirmed that the matter with our store was closed, as he received both an explanation and an offer for lab testing.

Also, please stop spamming us with these marketing posts

Regarding our posts: we do not publish spam. All posts are scheduled and systematic, this is part of our thread policy and fully complies with forum rules. At the same time, we hear your feedback and are open to considering suggestions on improving the format or diversifying the content.