abnormal low E2 on 700mg test + 300 mast?

[david38016]

finally got my results back for the E2 and they are much lower than i expected... (this is at the 6 week mark on the cycle)
so this was my first high test cycle and i wanted to run a short cycle to see how it feels and to get better understand my E2 control needs would be...

because i didn't need any E2 control while running 300mg a week i figured for sure i would need some at 700mg per week hence why i added the 300mg mast
at the 3rd week i thought for sure my E2 would be creeping up and tried taking (1) 6.25mg aromasin this quickly crashed my E2 thank goodness for only a short time... i didn't take anymore aromasin because honestly i felt good and don't have any symptoms but this just seems off to me i would think at 700mg test my E2 would be north of 100 at least...

i lowered my test dosage to 300mg a week 2 weeks after this test because honestly i think i felt better at that level than i do at this high test dose...

with only taking test/mast should i be checking prolactin also?
should i consider running a lower mast to test ratio in the future if i wanted to do high test again?
are these results ok in that with the slight mast E2 control these numbers are to be expected or they so out of ratio that i should be worried about something else?

 

[Liter O' Test]

do you have result from other tests at other dosages

 

[david38016]

do you have result from other tests at other dosages

this is at 300mg test per week i picked the wrong testosterone test for this one...

also you see my prev results No E2 taken on that one this was my first attempt at a TRT dosage of 50mg per week

 

[BigDadd7]

Why do you think that e2 level is problematic?

 

[david38016]

Why do you think that e2 level is problematic?

because it's much lower than what i expected. which makes me want to know why or if maybe there is some reason that it might be low and that reason is bad...

i mean i can understand where you are coming from it's low and maybe i should be happy?

 

[explodingHeart]

You saw some shitty youtube influencer who told you high E2 was good, didn't you?

 

[david38016]

You saw some shitty youtube influencer who told you high E2 was good, didn't you?

no i mean who wants gyno i think it's more about a good ratio of E2 to test is more important so maybe my question is more is my ratio good as is or should i be worried?

 

[explodingHeart]

i think it's more about a good ratio of E2 to test is more importan

which influencer said this?

 

[david38016]

which influencer said this?

don't watch much youtube i like to read but for example:

https://wjmh.org/pdf/10.5534/wjmh.240029

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/wcmag0/what_is_the_ideal_ratio_of_testosterone_to_e2/

 

[Elektrobot]

don't watch much youtube i like to read but for example:

https://wjmh.org/pdf/10.5534/wjmh.240029

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/wcmag0/what_is_the_ideal_ratio_of_testosterone_to_e2/

Just watched bro commit Meso self euthanasia in real time

 

[david38016]

Just watched bro commit Meso self euthanasia in real time

ok... thanks for your help...guess i go kill myself now

 

[AllbrandNew]

Based on your 'literature', why do you think that E2 value is an issue? You still haven't really stated why, aside from some random concern about a ratio. What is important about that ratio and what do you think it means?

 

[Elektrobot]

ok... thanks for your help...guess i go kill myself now

Thoughts and prayers

 

[david38016]

Based on your 'literature', why do you think that E2 value is an issue? You still haven't really stated why, aside from some random concern about a ratio. What is important about that ratio and what do you think it means?

mostly because my ratio is so much different than others in general for example if i read online that 90% report there test to E2 ratio as 1:25 and mine is 1:50 it makes me think something is wrong and maybe i should investigate further

not that 1:50 is in itself bad it's just that i way out of the normal reported ratio and that in itself might be a concern or it might not be idk...

the above ratio don't mean anything i just made them up for example only

 

[BigDadd7]

Seems like a fair enough concern and legit question. I think your e2 looks great. Retest in a month. If it's still in that neighborhood, than you found a great dosing combination that works for you.

 

[AllbrandNew]

Have you read online that 90% of people on the same gear have an average ratio that is wildly different than yours? You have links to your references?

Every body works differently. Just because you aromatize X at Y mg of test doesn't translate directly to higher or different levels. You are also using multiple compounds and comparing it to test alone, right?

Your earlier results are not really a reference point for current protocol and values since they aren't the same.. So again, why is this a concern?

Edit: Not trying to be a dick, although it kinda sounds that way.

 

[professionaldyel]

There's diminishing returns of aromatizing, and mast DOES NOT lower E2. You should be buying full blood panels until youre extremely experienced with messing with compounds

 

[phenominal34]

Seems like a fair enough concern and legit question. I think your e2 looks great. Retest in a month. If it's still in that neighborhood, than you found a great dosing combination that works for you.

This and try keeping the mast but not taking any aromasin.

Like the guy said below 95% of the time mast doesn’t lower e2 ! You ran it 6 weeks and took some aromasin in there at some point, most likely that lowered your e2

 

[ganciodestro]

There's diminishing returns of aromatizing, and mast DOES NOT lower E2. You should be buying full blood panels until youre extremely experienced with messing with compounds

Is Masteron like preventing estrogens from acting even if their blood levels are high?

 

[RockyP]

E2 of 49 on 700 Test is pretty legit. I'd be very happy with those numbers especially with no AI.