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Tren: Cut or Bulk?
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eery
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cut, but it works well in both situations.
Depends on your individua response too
Depends on your individua response too
19-Nor
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Both. Start low and see how you tolerate it
Eddie.
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Most guys use it in cut and hands down it's the best thing i've tried haha. Haven't used it in bulk yet but i guess if you don't get sides it could be a great addition to test.
Thing is for many guys side effects are worse in bulk compared to a cut, acid reflux from tren and high food can hinder your appetite, digestion and cause a lot ot GI distress. Also sweating and nightsweats can be potentially worse due to high carbs combined with tren.
When cutting sleep is gonna be poor anyways from stims, fat burners and tren. You don't want to mess with your sleep in the most productive building phase.
I still believe though a low dose tren could be a great addition if someone don't get sides.
Thing is for many guys side effects are worse in bulk compared to a cut, acid reflux from tren and high food can hinder your appetite, digestion and cause a lot ot GI distress. Also sweating and nightsweats can be potentially worse due to high carbs combined with tren.
When cutting sleep is gonna be poor anyways from stims, fat burners and tren. You don't want to mess with your sleep in the most productive building phase.
I still believe though a low dose tren could be a great addition if someone don't get sides.
ChemBB
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Food: cut or bulk?
AlwaysHungry
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Works great both ways in a cut it tends to need some Masteron with to have that great thin skin.
Higher test lower tren best bulker out there but I mean low 100-200mg on a bulk are more than enough more than that you’re going to burn out
Higher test lower tren best bulker out there but I mean low 100-200mg on a bulk are more than enough more than that you’re going to burn out
Banana Joe
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Strong intro, even though this one is not it.
Both from July 2025, 1st post:
I will ask again, where do all you brain dead idiots come from?
Both from July 2025, 1st post:
2nd post:
I will ask again, where do all you brain dead idiots come from?
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Elektrobot
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Is this really the only conundrum that's holding you back from improving your training?
How does it feel doing tricks on it banana joe? Fitting name
No, I just wanted to see a discussion as I have growing interest in some AAS i’d probably never use (trenbolone, anadrol, yk-11, etc.) but since there is very lacking empirical evidence I can only ask people about their anecdotal experience.
Elektrobot
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What did you call me?
Banana Joe
Member
You can call me the Alpha Banana from now on.
You are still the issue here. Doesn't matter if you are going to use them or not. Even Primo is way over your head.
I have enough experience in this sport to know what kind of person asks about drugs, and which one comes to ask about training and nutrition advice.
Guess which which one will thrive, and which one won't?
I have nutrition and training down and am knowledgeable there. I know very little about anabolics and am trying to learn. Do you feel bigger being a pretentious asshole online beta banana
Banana Joe
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Then why do you weigh 30lbs less, with a higher bodyfat, and being taller, than me, when I was on the same test dose and was back at the gym for not much more than 2 months - after having been off for 9 months, where I didn't train at all, nor ate like a person being *knowledgeable* in all this, should?
And all that while I being able to do jackshit in the gym, because of my injuries, often training with less weight than most women there?
As just pointed out above, I am in fact bigger than you. At least partially because I very likely know more about training and nutrition than you ever will. And before you are trying to twist this, I am far removed from being an expert in any of the two.
Do you think I would treat you any different, would we have met in the gym and the first thing you're asking is how to take steroids, and then even pivot that conversation towards tren?
Do you think you are at point in your fitness journey, where high doses of steroids, and especially a compound like tren, are of the utmost importance over other aspects of that aforementioned journey?
You are still the issue here.
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Because I was hypogonadal my entire life (sub 120 ng/dl testosterone, e2 never been above 10pg/dL). I started testosterone 125mg June 18 2025, upped to 200mg mid July, and by August had gained nearly 20lb at the same bodyfat. Granted a lot is probably water but I can assure you given the same time I will be bigger.
You are also acting like I just came up to you and asked you, I asked the general forum, you just decided to respond with a stick up your ass.
Banana Joe
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A mate from my gym, that that is a pretty successful natural athlete in his federation, recently showed me his bloodwork. Can't remember if there was E2 but his test was not much higher than that.
That aside, you think I wasn't hypogonadal after coming off cold turkey 9 months earlier? I can even one up you, my thyroid wasn't working too well either.
I guess only time will tell!
It is not me who was too dumb to read the rules, then first thing starting to ask about a cyle, when you had just begun your TRT, to then immediately ask about tren in your next post - wasn't it?
I like how you focussed entirely on the hormonal part. Do you *maybe* see a recurring pattern here?
I guess the training and nutrition part of my reply didn't even felt like worth responding, because you "got that down" so well?
To summarise:
Because of your shortcomings and handicaps you weigh 170lbs, because you got the nutrition and training down.
Despite all my shortcomings and handicaps, I weigh 200lbs even though I can barely do much actual strength training.
I look like shit compared to this guy, wanna compare yourself with him instead?
One can really tell you really got everything down except how to do run a big, fat stack.
Do you really wanna keep doing this?
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Banana Joe
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Best reply in this thread by a mile!
Lets not play victim games because you are not winning I only mentioned being hypogonadal because i managed to make more gains than most people without being able to really put on muscle
You are the one who went out of your way to reply and try and be a douchebag. I am trying to learn and be productive while you are trying to stroke your ego which is pathetic
Banana Joe
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Whatever, mate. Best of luck, you will need it.
Elektrobot
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