A comprenhensive tb500 frag thread

dinfar1337

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terms:

synthetic tb = TB-500 Frag(Ac-LKKTETQ) 889da(g/mol) frag also known as TB-500 Fragment LKKTETQ (17-23)

tb = FULL Protein TB-500 43 4921 g/mol
also written by Bill Roberts TB-500 Peptide Profile
i think with our new info on the tb500 series, we should refer to bill's write up as best usage with unknown inflammation sites and skin health. Refer to my comparing of dynamics of tb and synthetic tb down below.


TB-500 Frag (Ac-LKKTETQ) Peptide Profile


Synthetic tb is a synthetic peptide fragment derived from the naturally occurring protein thymosin beta-4 (TB-4). It is the short active sequence of TB-4 that is directly responsible for wound healing, tissue repair, and angiogenesis. Unlike tb, which is too large and unstable for therapeutic use, the frag is small, stable, and bioavailable making it the real “injury healing version” gymbros are after when they talk about "TB-500".



When to Use TB-500 Frag(make tis big):

Consider TB-500 frag in cases of:

Acute injuries where healing would extremely be slow (muscle tears, tendon strains).

Chronic injuries that aren’t healing naturally (tendinitis, joint irritation).

Limited range of motion caused by scar tissue or adhesions.

Animal and in-vitro studies suggest that this synthetic tb enhances cell migration, angiogenesis, and wound repair. Compared to tb, it has by far better systemic availability and directly targets the actin-binding domain responsible for these effects.


Possible Synergies

HGH and GHRP'S is similar to tb and synthetic tb and may stack well with GH or GHRPs (GHRP-2, GHRP-6, ipamorelin). These can achieve syngery and increase recovery rate and tissue remodeling.

BPC-157 is widely stacked in bodybuilding witb tb(wish it were with synthetic tb more often), though its likely that BPC carries most of the burden in these combos both with tb and synthetic tb. Using frag alone allows for clearer results and could accelerte healing even further than we have seen by stacked with tb


Dosing:

i think 3x a week is simply wrong and we should dose it eod from my overview here.

With the sucky effects of tb lasting longer than synthetic tb, but more of it is gone to waste. i suggest somewhere around 2-10mg eod depending on injury.

Comparing known dosages of tb. we can look at pharmocokinetics of both tb and synthetic tb and compare.

structure;
tb is larger in than synthetic tb.

half-life;
tb has a longer half life than synthetic tb

tb = 2-12 hours depending on injection route,
and synthetic tb is <2 hours

Detectability;

tb is detected up to 2-3 days in metabolites

synthetic tb detected up to <=72 hours in plasma and urine.

Stability;

tb's large size make its unsuitable for therapeutic use. theres a lot of unnecessary action going on with tb which we simply are not after when it comes to healing, from injures. Usually abused in a bodybuilding context.

synthetic tb is a smaller size peptide and have a way better stability but it degrades quickly after its injected.

Tissue penetration;

tb is limited, the big size of almost 5000 g/mol peptide restricts its diffusion.

synthetic tb is vastly superior and its 900 g/mol size is perfect for penetrating tissues more efficiently.

Bioavailability;

The bioavailability of tb is poor from its big size and its rapidly degraded from injection>circulation, which affects tissue penetration and affects consistent delivery.

synthetic tb has better systemic bioavailability. Which shows in its detected in plasma and urine.

dynamics;

tb has broad but unfocused effects (angiogenesis, cell migration, stem cell activation, anti-inflammatory)

synthetic tb has very specific action on actin-binding and wound healing pathways

activity;

tb is incosistent, unstable and will require higher dosages to have any healing effects in hope of enough of it breaks down into synthetic tb

synthetic tb has "stronger reproducible wound-healing activity" (Rahaman et al., 2024)

Thoughts and keypoints

Researchers made the tb500 frag before the knowledge of its actually the broken down tb500 fragment which provides all the healing properties of tb500. The bioavailability of synthetic tb is made specifically to address this issue we had with tb and make a peptide more focused on stability, before the rat study we had no idea about the thats its the culprit for healing! And made so successfully. With its smaller size its more stable, and its more likely to reach systemic circulation.

synthetic tb can be detected in plasma and urine when tb cannot be tracked in plasma and urine. Which suggests better systemic bioavailability.

studies showed that tb is broken down when injected into the bodies as fragments and the synthetic tb is the main culprit of healing wounds which shows the healing action is tied to specific tb fragments and not the full protein itself.

synthetic therapeutic activity itself is linked to the actin binding domain. And by focusing on the synthetic tb the studies have been able to find that we can reduce metabolic waste and skip out on unnecessary amino acids and directly target the key healing mechanism

Looking at the Rahaman vivo rat study, we saw the metabolite was the only metabolite which showed significant healing compared to the control group which showed the healing effects of tb are not from the full protein but from a specific fragment Ac-LKKTE. even though Ac-LKK was present in higher concentrations it didnt contribute "significantly to wound healing". Only "Ac-LKKTE had measurable therapeutic activity" proving that the key healing mechanism is tied to this specific fragment and not the full tb protein.

“Ac-LKK was the primary metabolite with the highest concentration in rats at 0-6 h intervals. Also, the metabolite Ac-LKKTE only showed a significant wound healing activity compared to the control” (Rahaman et al., 2024).


all of tb therapeutic potential comes from its actin-binding domain (LKKTETQ aka synthetic tb), which regulates cell migration, angiogenesis, and tissue repair. By focusing on the 889 da fragment that contains this sequence researchers can bypass unnecessary amino acids, reduce metabolic waste, improve reproducibility in results.

“TB-500 is based on a single one of the ‘active sites’ of TB4 — the peptide segment responsible for the compound’s actin-binding and cell migration abilities” (Innerbody Research, 2025).


bonus for resellers & manufacturers.

making tb is more expensive than synthetic tb.

which means we can get a better product on the market which actually have healing effects.

shoutout to the bpc-157 which made everyone think the tb was working, while they could have gotten so much more out of their healing stack with synthetic tb.

bonus for the peptide nerds:

you get a higher bang for your buck since less tb500 will be degraded with a more full peptide.

your peptide can deliver consistent and good results

you get less immunogenicity risk from antigens and aggregates

synthetic tb shows the same angiogenic, anti inflammatorry, cytoprotective properties and possibly with better delivery than tb


what we're missing still:

direct comparing studies of tb vs synthetic tb

a characterization of the full pharmacokinetics of both synthetic tb and tb

a better slow release formula added to the synthetic tb for better half life. fatty acid conjugation is probably the best way to go for this one since we want it as stable as possible.


References with quotes

Esposito, S., et al. (2012). Synthesis and characterization of the N-terminal acetylated 17-23 fragment of human thymosin beta-4 identified in TB-500. Drug Testing and Analysis.

“This work describes the detection and the identification of the N-terminal acetylated 17–23 fragment of human thymosin beta 4 (Ac-LKKTETQ) in TB-500…”
“Ac-LKKTETQ was also synthesized by solid-phase peptide synthesis, and an analytical strategy for detection in plasma and urine … was suggested.”

Rahaman, K.A., et al. (2024). Simultaneous quantification of TB-500 and its metabolites in in-vitro experiments and rats by UHPLC-Q-Exactive orbitrap MS/MS. Journal of Chromatography B.

“Ac-LKK was the primary metabolite with the highest concentration in rats at 0-6 h intervals.”
“The metabolite Ac-LKKTE only showed a significant wound healing activity compared to the control.”

Innerbody Research. (2025). TB-4 and TB-500 Peptide Therapy: What the Science Says.
“TB-500 is based on a single one of the ‘active sites’ of TB4 — the peptide segment responsible for the compound’s actin-binding and cell migration abilities.”


Biological activities of thymosin beta(4) defined by active sites in short peptide sequences
“A short sequence containing LKKTETQ, the central actin-binding domain (aa 17-23) plus 1 additional amino acid (Q), promotes angiogenesis, wound healing, and cell migration.”

Thymosin beta-4 and a synthetic peptide containing its actin-binding domain promote dermal wound repair in db/db diabetic mice and in aged mice
“The actin-binding domain of thymosin beta 4 duplicated in a seven-amino acid synthetic peptide, LKKTETQ, was able to promote repair in the aged animals comparable to that observed with the parent molecule.”

The actin binding site on thymosin beta4 promotes angiogenesis
“Thymosin beta4 and the actin-binding motif of the peptide display near-identical activity at ~50 nM, whereas peptides lacking any portion of the actin motif were inactive.”

In vitro and in vivo pro-angiogenic effects of thymosin-β4-derived peptides
“Tβ4-derived peptides exert both in vitro and in vivo pro-angiogenic effects; their in vitro effect seems to be related to the activation of several signaling pathways and is positively modulated by the N-terminus of Tβ4.”


TB500/TB1000 and SGF1000: a scientific approach for a better understanding of misbranded and adulterated drugs
“We confirm that the content of TB500/TB1000 products is not systematically consistent with its former descriptions …”

Identification and quantification of thymosin beta4 in human saliva and tears
“Thymosin beta(4) (Tbeta(4)) is a ubiquitous, naturally occurring, 43-amino acid peptide … that takes part in several biological activities including angiogenesis, inhibition of inflammation, wound healing …”
 
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enjoy my research for a few days and my findings, i have less than 2 years experiences on peptides so if anyone would like to correct anything ive found or discuss it with me feel free to. i dont mind learning i am wrong.

made the thread like "steroid profiles" since i looked so much into this and it seems like everyone dont really know the difference between tb and synthetic tb.

so i hope people can spend their money right from now on
 
terms:

synthetic tb = TB-500 Frag(Ac-LKKTETQ) 889da(g/mol) frag also known as TB-500 Fragment LKKTETQ (17-23)

tb = FULL Protein TB-500 43 4921 g/mol
also written by Bill Roberts TB-500 Peptide Profile
i think with our new info on the tb500 series, we should refer to bill's write up as best usage with unknown inflammation sites and skin health. Refer to my comparing of dynamics of tb and synthetic tb down below.


TB-500 Frag (Ac-LKKTETQ) Peptide Profile


Synthetic tb is a synthetic peptide fragment derived from the naturally occurring protein thymosin beta-4 (TB-4). It is the short active sequence of TB-4 that is directly responsible for wound healing, tissue repair, and angiogenesis. Unlike tb, which is too large and unstable for therapeutic use, the frag is small, stable, and bioavailable making it the real “injury healing version” gymbros are after when they talk about "TB-500".



When to Use TB-500 Frag(make tis big):

Consider TB-500 frag in cases of:

Acute injuries where healing would extremely be slow (muscle tears, tendon strains).

Chronic injuries that aren’t healing naturally (tendinitis, joint irritation).

Limited range of motion caused by scar tissue or adhesions.

Animal and in-vitro studies suggest that this synthetic tb enhances cell migration, angiogenesis, and wound repair. Compared to tb, it has by far better systemic availability and directly targets the actin-binding domain responsible for these effects.


Possible Synergies

HGH and GHRP'S is similar to tb and synthetic tb and may stack well with GH or GHRPs (GHRP-2, GHRP-6, ipamorelin). These can achieve syngery and increase recovery rate and tissue remodeling.

BPC-157 is widely stacked in bodybuilding witb tb(wish it were with synthetic tb more often), though its likely that BPC carries most of the burden in these combos both with tb and synthetic tb. Using frag alone allows for clearer results and could accelerte healing even further than we have seen by stacked with tb


Dosing:

i think 3x a week is simply wrong and we should dose it eod from my overview here.

With the sucky effects of tb lasting longer than synthetic tb, but more of it is gone to waste. i suggest somewhere around 2-10mg eod depending on injury.

Comparing known dosages of tb. we can look at pharmocokinetics of both tb and synthetic tb and compare.

structure;
tb is larger in than synthetic tb.

half-life;
tb has a longer half life than synthetic tb

tb = 2-12 hours depending on injection route,
and synthetic tb is <2 hours

Detectability;

tb is detected up to 2-3 days in metabolites

synthetic tb detected up to <=72 hours in plasma and urine.

Stability;

tb's large size make its unsuitable for therapeutic use. theres a lot of unnecessary action going on with tb which we simply are not after when it comes to healing, from injures. Usually abused in a bodybuilding context.

synthetic tb is a smaller size peptide and have a way better stability but it degrades quickly after its injected.

Tissue penetration;

tb is limited, the big size of almost 5000 g/mol peptide restricts its diffusion.

synthetic tb is vastly superior and its 900 g/mol size is perfect for penetrating tissues more efficiently.

Bioavailability;

The bioavailability of tb is poor from its big size and its rapidly degraded from injection>circulation, which affects tissue penetration and affects consistent delivery.

synthetic tb has better systemic bioavailability. Which shows in its detected in plasma and urine.

dynamics;

tb has broad but unfocused effects (angiogenesis, cell migration, stem cell activation, anti-inflammatory)

synthetic tb has very specific action on actin-binding and wound healing pathways

activity;

tb is incosistent, unstable and will require higher dosages to have any healing effects in hope of enough of it breaks down into synthetic tb

synthetic tb has "stronger reproducible wound-healing activity" (Rahaman et al., 2024)

Thoughts and keypoints

Researchers made the tb500 frag before the knowledge of its actually the broken down tb500 fragment which provides all the healing properties of tb500. The bioavailability of synthetic tb is made specifically to address this issue we had with tb and make a peptide more focused on stability, before the rat study we had no idea about the thats its the culprit for healing! And made so successfully. With its smaller size its more stable, and its more likely to reach systemic circulation.

synthetic tb can be detected in plasma and urine when tb cannot be tracked in plasma and urine. Which suggests better systemic bioavailability.

studies showed that tb is broken down when injected into the bodies as fragments and the synthetic tb is the main culprit of healing wounds which shows the healing action is tied to specific tb fragments and not the full protein itself.

synthetic therapeutic activity itself is linked to the actin binding domain. And by focusing on the synthetic tb the studies have been able to find that we can reduce metabolic waste and skip out on unnecessary amino acids and directly target the key healing mechanism

Looking at the Rahaman vivo rat study, we saw the metabolite was the only metabolite which showed significant healing compared to the control group which showed the healing effects of tb are not from the full protein but from a specific fragment Ac-LKKTE. even though Ac-LKK was present in higher concentrations it didnt contribute "significantly to wound healing". Only "Ac-LKKTE had measurable therapeutic activity" proving that the key healing mechanism is tied to this specific fragment and not the full tb protein.

“Ac-LKK was the primary metabolite with the highest concentration in rats at 0-6 h intervals. Also, the metabolite Ac-LKKTE only showed a significant wound healing activity compared to the control” (Rahaman et al., 2024).


all of tb therapeutic potential comes from its actin-binding domain (LKKTETQ aka synthetic tb), which regulates cell migration, angiogenesis, and tissue repair. By focusing on the 889 da fragment that contains this sequence researchers can bypass unnecessary amino acids, reduce metabolic waste, improve reproducibility in results.

“TB-500 is based on a single one of the ‘active sites’ of TB4 — the peptide segment responsible for the compound’s actin-binding and cell migration abilities” (Innerbody Research, 2025).


bonus for resellers & manufacturers.

making tb is more expensive than synthetic tb.

which means we can get a better product on the market which actually have healing effects.

shoutout to the bpc-157 which made everyone think the tb was working, while they could have gotten so much more out of their healing stack with synthetic tb.

bonus for the peptide nerds:

you get a higher bang for your buck since less tb500 will be degraded with a more full peptide.

your peptide can deliver consistent and good results

you get less immunogenicity risk from antigens and aggregates

synthetic tb shows the same angiogenic, anti inflammatorry, cytoprotective properties and possibly with better delivery than tb


what we're missing still:

direct comparing studies of tb vs synthetic tb

a characterization of the full pharmacokinetics of both synthetic tb and tb

a better slow release formula added to the synthetic tb for better half life. fatty acid conjugation is probably the best way to go for this one since we want it as stable as possible.


References with quotes

Esposito, S., et al. (2012). Synthesis and characterization of the N-terminal acetylated 17-23 fragment of human thymosin beta-4 identified in TB-500. Drug Testing and Analysis.

“This work describes the detection and the identification of the N-terminal acetylated 17–23 fragment of human thymosin beta 4 (Ac-LKKTETQ) in TB-500…”
“Ac-LKKTETQ was also synthesized by solid-phase peptide synthesis, and an analytical strategy for detection in plasma and urine … was suggested.”

Rahaman, K.A., et al. (2024). Simultaneous quantification of TB-500 and its metabolites in in-vitro experiments and rats by UHPLC-Q-Exactive orbitrap MS/MS. Journal of Chromatography B.

“Ac-LKK was the primary metabolite with the highest concentration in rats at 0-6 h intervals.”
“The metabolite Ac-LKKTE only showed a significant wound healing activity compared to the control.”

Innerbody Research. (2025). TB-4 and TB-500 Peptide Therapy: What the Science Says.
“TB-500 is based on a single one of the ‘active sites’ of TB4 — the peptide segment responsible for the compound’s actin-binding and cell migration abilities.”


Biological activities of thymosin beta(4) defined by active sites in short peptide sequences
“A short sequence containing LKKTETQ, the central actin-binding domain (aa 17-23) plus 1 additional amino acid (Q), promotes angiogenesis, wound healing, and cell migration.”

Thymosin beta-4 and a synthetic peptide containing its actin-binding domain promote dermal wound repair in db/db diabetic mice and in aged mice
“The actin-binding domain of thymosin beta 4 duplicated in a seven-amino acid synthetic peptide, LKKTETQ, was able to promote repair in the aged animals comparable to that observed with the parent molecule.”

The actin binding site on thymosin beta4 promotes angiogenesis
“Thymosin beta4 and the actin-binding motif of the peptide display near-identical activity at ~50 nM, whereas peptides lacking any portion of the actin motif were inactive.”

In vitro and in vivo pro-angiogenic effects of thymosin-β4-derived peptides
“Tβ4-derived peptides exert both in vitro and in vivo pro-angiogenic effects; their in vitro effect seems to be related to the activation of several signaling pathways and is positively modulated by the N-terminus of Tβ4.”


TB500/TB1000 and SGF1000: a scientific approach for a better understanding of misbranded and adulterated drugs
“We confirm that the content of TB500/TB1000 products is not systematically consistent with its former descriptions …”

Identification and quantification of thymosin beta4 in human saliva and tears
“Thymosin beta(4) (Tbeta(4)) is a ubiquitous, naturally occurring, 43-amino acid peptide … that takes part in several biological activities including angiogenesis, inhibition of inflammation, wound healing …”
so tb4 full sequence does contribute to "anti inflammatory, wound/tendon healing etc , just not as effective as the tb500 frag versions?
 
so tb4 full sequence does contribute to "anti inflammatory, wound/tendon healing etc , just not as effective as the tb500 frag versions?
yes, tb4 full sequence does get broken down into fragments which we are hoping for it gets broken down into the tb500 frag which im talking about here which is responsible for wound/muscle/tendon healing.

you're spinning your wheels tho when u can just take the thing that does that and does it much more effectively dose vs dose. + produced in a bigger scale it will also be the cheaper option
 
yes, tb4 full sequence does get broken down into fragments which we are hoping for it gets broken down into the tb500 frag which im talking about here which is responsible for wound/muscle/tendon healing.

you're spinning your wheels tho when u can just take the thing that does that and does it much more effectively dose vs dose. + produced in a bigger scale it will also be the cheaper option
i agree , ive used both forms at the same time , (best bang for your buck) to really aid in the recovery process , i dose the frag 2-3 times a day, i even dosed the tb4 several times a day, it really is a game changer using these peptides post op.
 
And i would like to add , doses should be in the mg range, ie: 1-10 mg per day!! People , don't get caught up in the mcg doses, They are FUTILE, especially Bpc157, it must be used at or above 2 mg daily to achieve respectable healing, ymmv of course , but IME these peptides really shine @3 mg daily "minimum" (post op surgery etc) Thanks for your research @dinfar1337
 
i agree , ive used both forms at the same time , (best bang for your buck) to really aid in the recovery process , i dose the frag 2-3 times a day, i even dosed the tb4 several times a day, it really is a game changer using these peptides post op.

i also used it, and then decided to look into it and here we are xd

anyways i think you're maybe confusing the half life for effective life.

half life is rather short but it gets broken down into your system and have a effective life for up to 24-48 hours later in my findings!


so ed or eod dosing is just fine
 
And i would like to add , doses should be in the mg range, ie: 1-10 mg per day!! People don't get caught up in the mcg doses, They are FUTILE, especially Bpc157, it must be used at or above 2 mg daily to achieve respectable healing, ymmv of course , but IME these peptides really shine @3 mg daily "minimum" (post op surgery etc) Thanks for your research @dinfar1337
i think 3x a week is simply wrong and we should dose it eod from my overview here.

With the sucky effects of tb lasting longer than synthetic tb, but more of it is gone to waste. i suggest somewhere around 2-10mg eod depending on injury.
 
i also used it, and then decided to look into it and here we are xd

anyways i think you're maybe confusing the half life for effective life.

half life is rather short but it gets broken down into your system and have a effective life for up to 24-48 hours later in my findings!


so ed or eod dosing is just fine
not confused at all, Ive used it for several surgeries and had great results that even surprises the surgeons at my post op appointments , so although the "research suggests" , ive seen it proven in real life applications, i guess you could save some $ by "riding the half life" again Ymmv
 
not confused at all, Ive used it for several surgeries and had great results that even surprises the surgeons at my post op appointments , so although the "research suggests" , ive seen it proven in real life applications, i guess you could save some $ by "riding the half life" again Ymmv
great info,

my thread was all i could find about it through research since we have so much limited info on it placed in 1 thread. either tb or tb frag.

thanks for the info. im basiclly done with my tb frag cycle and just riding slowly into maintenance by now i will defiently try to see if injections 3x a day help next time im injured(hopefully not haha)

i do believe it still has some validation to it tho, i jumped from 5mg to 500mcg of each for maintance both bpc and tb and after 2-3 days time my elbow pain came back so im doing 2mg maintenance and the pain went away again, doing each 1mg tb frag and 1mg bpc dropping down to 1.5mg total to 1mg total until i reach 500mcg and can train by myself without support hopefully
 
Thanks for the wall of text and all the research you did. From what I know, TB-500 is the active slice of thymosin beta-4, while TB-4 is the full 43-amino-acid peptide with a bit wider action. Honestly, I didn’t feel a big difference between them, but when I ran either one together with BPC at 1 mg a day it did help my lower back and knee. Now I just throw that combo into every cycle as cheap insurance and because it makes me feel like I actually know what I’m doing, even if it’s probably more than I need.
 
TB-500 is the active slice of thymosin beta-4, while TB-4 is the full 43-amino-acid peptide
im sorry i dont quite understand do you mean the frag as tb-500?

because the full 43 amino acid is the one getting sold as TB-500 everywhere.

so TB-500 = tb4 from seller lists
 
im sorry i dont quite understand do you mean the frag as tb-500?

because the full 43 amino acid is the one getting sold as TB-500 everywhere.

so TB-500 = tb4 from seller lists
Maybe I misunderstood it, or maybe I’m just wrong, but here’s how I see it. Technically TB-500 is a fragment of thymosin beta-4, while TB-4 is the full 43-amino-acid peptide. The mix-up happens because a lot of sellers slap “TB-500” on both products. At least Lobster keeps it straight: TB-4 (full sequence) and TB-500 (fragment), so we don’t have to guess which white powder is which.
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Maybe I misunderstood it, or maybe I’m just wrong, but here’s how I see it.
oh brother you're wrong.

every seller carries normal tb500 always tested as full protein tb4 43aa

its rare and ive i quoted photon which found 2 of them(one is lobster) i didnt know of.

so we have 3 sources who carries frag, and everyone else has tb4 full protein one.

here is how you can usually identify synthetic tb by janoshik tests, always demand these from resellers since they usually dont know what you're talking about.

889da is keypoint here

this how the fragment will look in testing. and normal full protein will just say tb500(tb4)

like this Janoshik Analytical

janoshik is always spot on, on the difference
 
oh brother you're wrong.

every seller carries normal tb500 always tested as full protein tb4 43aa

its rare and ive i quoted photon which found 2 of them(one is lobster) i didnt know of.

so we have 3 sources who carries frag, and everyone else has tb4 full protein one.


this how the fragment will look in testing. and normal full protein will just say tb500(tb4)

like this Janoshik Analytical

janoshik is always spot on, on the difference
Thanks, brother, now I understand. I’ll keep that in mind going forward and pay closer attention to how sellers list TB-500 and TB-4. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it.
 
TB-500 and TB-4
seeing your screenshot lobster is probably the only who lists it right.

everyone else just name tb4 as tb500. but ive also mostly looked at china sources where its cheapest and most people source.

hope u got something out of this, only reason i shared this thread is in hope of getting a more effective and cheap product out on the market. and help people choose wisely for their money
 
The first vendor with the 889 TB500 was GenericAsia.
I choose that instead of TB4 because of the longer effective half life.
Most vendors do not know the difference.
This is an example using SSA.

They have 2 products here, in their pricelist.
What is it? Tb4 or TB500?
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Now you see their report..and woola.
One is TB4 and one is TB500.
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Imagine taking the 5mg/5mg, it's working perfectly, injuries are healing, and you buy a larger 10mg vial and get a different product.
:cool:

(Same case with SRY and HYB)
 
This is an example using SSA.
this is actually funny, i was writing with ssa sales reps about this when buying it, and they just referred me to their admin his tg username was chunkychunks something. he knew this but the sales reps didnt.

but atleast they had the cas and frag in price list. so i bought it seperately for a good price
 
this is actually funny, i was writing with ssa sales reps about this when buying it, and they just referred me to their admin his tg username was chunkychunks something. he knew this but the sales reps didnt.

but atleast they had the cas and frag in price list. so i bought it seperately for a good price

Did they sell you pep raws?
 
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