Telmisartan on cruise?

[newguy2]

Probably stupid question.

For those that don't have blood pressure issues on a cruise. Do you just bring in Telmisartan when you get on cycle (or wait until bp starts to raise).

I need it currently towards the end of my cycle, but previously I didn't on cruise and don't want to stay on it if not necessary.

The questions probably answers itself but I thought I would throw it out there.

 

[sionnach]

I was fine on Norwegian, but Carnival definitely had my blood pressure up.

 

[newguy2]

I was fine on Norwegian, but Carnival definitely had my blood pressure up.

 

[sionnach]

Sorry. I wouldn't take it until BP actually goes up. But that's just me, I already take enough shit.

 

[newguy2]

Sorry. I wouldn't take it until BP actually goes up. But that's just me, I already take enough shit.

That's what made sense in my mind, but I'm still putting all the pieces together.

 

[Drtonybig]

I personally keep telmi year round, just for the benefits but I naturally have high bp

 

[adrenalytic]

telmisartan = better pumps = better blood flow to muscles = more nutrients to muscles = growth. Keep it in unless you are a conservationist.

 

[Ghoul]

telmisartan = better pumps = better blood flow to muscles = more nutrients to muscles = growth. Keep it in unless you are a conservationist.

Also a (weak) PPAR agonist, so it contributes to better insulin sensitivity and fat loss. Not a huge effect, but a nice bonus.

 

[newguy2]

Also a (weak) PPAR agonist, so it contributes to better insulin sensitivity and fat loss. Not a huge effect, but a nice bonus.

My concern was that if I didn't have an issue with BP on trt that taking something like this would tank my BP.

 

[Ghoul]

My concern was that if I didn't have an issue with BP on trt that taking something like this would tank my BP.

ARB class BP meds like Telm have the lowest risk of causing hypotension (low bp) when baseline blood pressure drops into the"normotensive" range. ARB's bp lowering effects scale down as blood pressure goes lower, and its effects increase as blood pressure rises.

Unless you were borderline hypotension before (dizzy spells when standing for instance), the risk of going too low is very small.

Other classes, like CCBs and Beta Blockers just drop BP a fixed amount no matter what it is, so have to be used more carefully to avoid hypotension.

 

[adrenalytic]

My concern was that if I didn't have an issue with BP on trt that taking something like this would tank my BP.

Well it's not like you're going to die over night. If you're not checking your BP daily (esp. with known irregularities) then scrapping telmisartan on feels is just throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Get a good BP cuff and check every day upon waking (before you eat, exercise, stress, etc.) and if you notice a massive decrease then discontinue. Pretty simple.

 

[BendigoShafter]

I don't even consider it as part of my PEDs. I just "prescribed" myself telmisartan from India and will take it as long as I can keep it cheaply supplied. It seems like an overall benefit as long as you've got healthy blood pressure.

 

[newguy2]

ARB class BP meds like Telm have the lowest risk of causing hypotension (low bp) when baseline blood pressure drops into the"normotensive" range. ARB's bp lowering effects scale down as blood pressure goes lower, and its effects increase as blood pressure rises.

Unless you were borderline hypotension before (dizzy spells when standing for instance), the risk of going too low is very small.

Good to know thanks man.

 

[nasi]

ARB class BP meds like Telm have the lowest risk of causing hypotension (low bp) when baseline blood pressure drops into the"normotensive" range. ARB's bp lowering effects scale down as blood pressure goes lower, and its effects increase as blood pressure rises.

Unless you were borderline hypotension before (dizzy spells when standing for instance), the risk of going too low is very small.

Other classes, like CCBs and Beta Blockers just drop BP a fixed amount no matter what it is, so have to be used more carefully to avoid hypotension.

a little confused on this, cardarine is also a ppar agonist and its carcinogenic is telmisartan not?

 

[Ghoul]

a little confused on this, cardarine is also a ppar agonist and its carcinogenic is telmisartan not?

Carderine and Telmisartan agonize different PPARs. Carderine (delta PPAR) mainly affects muscle/fat metabolism, while Telm (gamma PPAR) mainly affects glucose and cardiovascular health.

Telm has been exhaustively studied over a long time and there's absolutely no indication of increased cancer risk.

 

[sliderke]

telmisartan = better pumps = better blood flow to muscles = more nutrients to muscles = growth. Keep it in unless you are a conservationist.

So does cialis.
Maybe keep Cialis year round and telmi only on cycles?

 

[BendigoShafter]

Why not both? I don't mean that flippantly. I'm planning on staying on both daily regardless if I'm blasting or cruising. I don't see a downside to telmisartin.

 

[JK1]

I've had the same questions.

Also a (weak) PPAR agonist, so it contributes to better insulin sensitivity and fat loss. Not a huge effect, but a nice bonus.

I'm assuming most will use the 40mg. Even without intention to treat BP issues.

Any thoughts on running it lower even 10mg? Or would this be a daft idea.

Also wondering this for cialis...5mg worth it?