Labs @ 4.5 weeks

[Bocacolony]

Always have Aromasin, Caber and Raloxifene on hand. I didn’t have any negative sides from Caber but it works so fast you don’t need to take it more than a few days. The Ralox would only be needed if you had signs of gyno (more than just sensitive nips).

The Aromasin isn’t needed either. Your E2 is fine if that was an E2 sensitive/ultrasensitive lab.

Your prolactin is barely out of range. It’s a personal judgment call whether Caber is even needed yet.

I’m curious what your Doc recommends.

Got my labs back


Total Testosterone (LC/MS): 988 ng/dL
SHBG: 30.2
Estradiol Sensitive: 65.8 pg/mL
LH / FSH: <0.3
Prolactin: 27.9 ng/mL
DHEA-S: 55.1 ⚠
IGF-1: 311 ng/mL

So I guess my prolactin is high, but probably not the culprit as my estradiol is way high

I'm going to go with the doc to get access to an AI quickly, and I'm thinking about lowering my TRT dose back down to 30mg EOD ( from currently 37mg EOD)

Bummed cuz I've been feeling good overall and honestly wanted to go a little higher, but I'm feeling pretty freaked out at this point

I'm pretty sure I can get anastrozole today/tomorrow, hopefully real quick.

Any other advice for me? Besides maybe going back in time and having these items ready...

I's that the best AI? Send like that's the most common from calling around,

Should I stop my 2iu GH, or like take few weeks off

Do you think getting the AI first is better than trying to target prolactin first?

 

[BamaCrazy]

Got my labs back


Total Testosterone (LC/MS): 988 ng/dL
SHBG: 30.2
Estradiol Sensitive: 65.8 pg/mL
LH / FSH: <0.3
Prolactin: 27.9 ng/mL
DHEA-S: 55.1 ⚠
IGF-1: 311 ng/mL

So I guess my prolactin is high, but probably not the culprit as my estradiol is way high

I'm going to go with the doc to get access to an AI quickly, and I'm thinking about lowering my TRT dose back down to 30mg EOD ( from currently 37mg EOD)

Bummed cuz I've been feeling good overall and honestly wanted to go a little higher, but I'm feeling pretty freaked out at this point

I'm pretty sure I can get anastrozole today/tomorrow, hopefully real quick.

Any other advice for me? Besides maybe going back in time and having these items ready...

I's that the best AI? Send like that's the most common from calling around,

Should I stop my 2iu GH, or like take few weeks off

Do you think getting the AI first is better than trying to target prolactin first?

I prefer Aromasin. But if Anastrozole is all you have access to then it will have to do.

I’d ask my Doc about the prolactin. I’d want to address it also. In the past when I went through TRT clinics they never tested for prolactin nor mentioned it as a potential risk. So who knows what your Doc will say.

HGH does not generally elevate E2 so I don’t think you need to drop it.

 

[Bocacolony]

I prefer Aromasin. But if Anastrozole is all you have access to then it will have to do.

I’d ask my Doc about the prolactin. I’d want to address it also. In the past when I went through TRT clinics they never tested for prolactin nor mentioned it as a potential risk. So who knows what your Doc will say.

HGH does not generally elevate E2 so I don’t think you need to drop it.

I got the anastrozole today, I'm glad I got it, but my doc is pretty limited with what he'll write, his clinic does a form of TRT, but not very comprehensive, it's more of an ED clinic, and sadly he won't write scripts for anything he's not familiar comfortable with.

I know I probably need to find a better clinic, but TBH chat GPT and meso have better answers than most docs in the clinics around here.

Where should I start with the anastrozole? I'd like to get the E2 down fast but everyone on here warns not to crash it and to micro dose. The doc said to take 3 a week first 2 weeks then go down to 1. But sure if the dosage yet, picking up at pharmacy tonight, but I think he said they were 1mg tablets... Maybe.... But that sounds like a lot

Any advice on how to get it to a good spot? Basically looking to alleviate symptoms quickly, scared of gyno.

As for prolactin, from my research, my daily kratom use seems to be the main reason for it being high. At this point I'm not coming off kratom for the foreseeable future, I'm hoping just the AI will work, but if need be I can try to find some ugl source.


Also I will say I really thought I could get by without AI, and it's not true, I would like my t to be around 1000+ and seems like that won't be possible without AI,

I guess it leaves me wondering stay here with ai or drop back down to the 700's with no ai

 

[Ateam2023]

I got the anastrozole today, I'm glad I got it, but my doc is pretty limited with what he'll write, his clinic does a form of TRT, but not very comprehensive, it's more of an ED clinic, and sadly he won't write scripts for anything he's not familiar comfortable with.

I know I probably need to find a better clinic, but TBH chat GPT and meso have better answers than most docs in the clinics around here.

Where should I start with the anastrozole? I'd like to get the E2 down fast but everyone on here warns not to crash it and to micro dose. The doc said to take 3 a week first 2 weeks then go down to 1. But sure if the dosage yet, picking up at pharmacy tonight, but I think he said they were 1mg tablets... Maybe.... But that sounds like a lot

Any advice on how to get it to a good spot? Basically looking to alleviate symptoms quickly, scared of gyno.

As for prolactin, from my research, my daily kratom use seems to be the main reason for it being high. At this point I'm not coming off kratom for the foreseeable future, I'm hoping just the AI will work, but if need be I can try to find some ugl source.


Also I will say I really thought I could get by without AI, and it's not true, I would like my t to be around 1000+ and seems like that won't be possible without AI,

I guess it leaves me wondering stay here with ai or drop back down to the 700's with no ai

what are you "really gaining" between 700 to 1000?

 

[BamaCrazy]

I got the anastrozole today, I'm glad I got it, but my doc is pretty limited with what he'll write, his clinic does a form of TRT, but not very comprehensive, it's more of an ED clinic, and sadly he won't write scripts for anything he's not familiar comfortable with.

I know I probably need to find a better clinic, but TBH chat GPT and meso have better answers than most docs in the clinics around here.

Where should I start with the anastrozole? I'd like to get the E2 down fast but everyone on here warns not to crash it and to micro dose. The doc said to take 3 a week first 2 weeks then go down to 1. But sure if the dosage yet, picking up at pharmacy tonight, but I think he said they were 1mg tablets... Maybe.... But that sounds like a lot

Any advice on how to get it to a good spot? Basically looking to alleviate symptoms quickly, scared of gyno.

As for prolactin, from my research, my daily kratom use seems to be the main reason for it being high. At this point I'm not coming off kratom for the foreseeable future, I'm hoping just the AI will work, but if need be I can try to find some ugl source.


Also I will say I really thought I could get by without AI, and it's not true, I would like my t to be around 1000+ and seems like that won't be possible without AI,

I guess it leaves me wondering stay here with ai or drop back down to the 700's with no ai

Anastrozole can reduce E2 by 70% within 24 hours. It has a half life of 50 hours and stays in your system for up to 10 days. Doses start at .25, .50 or 1mg. 1mg 3x a week for two weeks seems extreme considering how effective Anastrozole is. I’d be worried about crashing my E2.

Some people need an AI on almost every cycle so there’s nothing wrong with taking one. But lower BF can help minimize the need for one. I once always needed an AI even on TRT doses. After losing 45 pounds and getting my BF down around 12-15% I never need an AI.

 

[Ateam2023]

Anastrozole can reduce E2 by 70% within 24 hours. It has a half life of 50 hours and stays in your system for up to 10 days. Doses start at .25, .50 or 1mg. 1mg 3x a week for two weeks seems extreme considering how effective Anastrozole is. I’d be worried about crashing my E2.

Some people need an AI on almost every cycle so there’s nothing wrong with taking one. But lower BF can help minimize the need for one. I once always needed an AI even on TRT doses. After losing 45 pounds and getting my BF down around 12-15% I never need an AI.

your lucky Bama , im sub 10% rn and at @175 mg test c per week had me @80 e2 i also take hgh , but not alot currently i need to reassess e2 soon now that i been taking .25 mg Dex on monday & Thursday , injection days

 

[Bocacolony]

Anastrozole can reduce E2 by 70% within 24 hours. It has a half life of 50 hours and stays in your system for up to 10 days. Doses start at .25, .50 or 1mg. 1mg 3x a week for two weeks seems extreme considering how effective Anastrozole is. I’d be worried about crashing my E2.

Some people need an AI on almost every cycle so there’s nothing wrong with taking one. But lower BF can help minimize the need for one. I once always needed an AI even on TRT doses. After losing 45 pounds and getting my BF down around 12-15% I never need an AI.

I'm fairly lean, tall lanky build, I've been in a surplus since starting but I don't have a ton of body fat

what are you "really gaining" between 700 to 1000?

This is. Exactly what I was trying to figure out by going higher, trying to find what feels best.

Could stay at 100mg a week and live in the 700s
Or i could be at 150mg a week and stay around 1100s with ai

This is kind of what I'm asking here, not trying to blast and cruise before I figure out what my healthy baseline should be

I'm about 6 months deep into this journey, and I'm looking for any advice

 

[Ateam2023]

I'm fairly lean, tall lanky build, I've been in a surplus since starting but I don't have a ton of body fat

This is. Exactly what I was trying to figure out by going higher, trying to find what feels best.

Could stay at 100mg a week and live in the 700s
Or i could be at 150mg a week and stay around 1100s with ai

This is kind of what I'm asking here, not trying to blast and cruise before I figure out what my healthy baseline should be

I'm about 6 months deep into this journey, and I'm looking for any advice

i honestly can't tell when im 700's or 1000 , im currently hovering around 750 trough, and 1200 ish when at peak , i struggle with dialing in my e2 when im at "trt" levels, i shouldnt even need a damn ai at trt doses , but it is what is , P.I.T.A..

 

[Bocacolony]

i honestly can't tell when im 700's or 1000 , im currently hovering around 750 trough, and 1200 ish when at peak , i struggle with dialing in my e2 when im at "trt" levels, i shouldnt even need a damn ai at trt doses , but it is what is , P.I.T.A..

I'm leaning towards the concussion that if I want to keep this going long term, dropping to a level where I have no sides would be the smart move, keeping around 700/800 seems like I can avoid trouble.

I really wanted to see how high I could get it and what that would feel like, I hear a lot of guys talking about how test levels should be much higher, and TRT levels are way too low, and it's like I want to know what that feels like, but I think that might just be a lesson for a future blast, when ready