No energy/Fatigue

[Deadpool99]

Are you still lethargic on TRT doses? I get lethargic when doses start to go up or if powerful compounds are added, which is not unheard of. My blood work is always fine. Quite frankly I feel best on 150mg test/week but of course your not getting gains on that dose.

I'm about to do my sleep study for a CPAP see if that helps.

Never been lethargic.

Getting a CBC, CMP, Thyroid, Lipid, cortisol, prolactin, E2 sensitive.

Hopefully recent training session doesn’t fuck up my CMP that much. I have noticed it tend to go down if I take a longer break between my last training session and bloodwork.

 

[Deadpool99]

Take the Bupropion as you are sooooo bent on taking it. After it doesn't work, start taking every other advise posted in the thread right from the first one...

I’ll try to get to the root cause, tho clearly it seems mental. I’ll leave the Bupropion for now and try out everything else.

 

[imperator]

started eating around maintenance it started building up, so it’s clearly not diet (fully clean diet btw).

Define "fully clean diet"

 

[Deadpool99]

Define "fully clean diet"

No sugary foods, fats between 40-60g, high protein around 220g+, carbs 200g+, foods are low carbs pasta, chicken, popcorn, protein ninja creami, potatoes, rice cakes, almond milk. I repeat the same foods everyday.

 

[imperator]

No sugary foods, fats between 40-60g, high protein around 220g+, carbs 200g+, foods are low carbs pasta, chicken, popcorn, protein ninja creami, potatoes, rice cakes, almond milk. I repeat the same foods everyday.

Not saying this will change your situation necessarily but I'd try some liver and fruits, nothing to lose.

 

[Deadpool99]

Not saying this will change your situation necessarily but I'd try some liver and fruits, nothing to lose.

Liver grosses me tf out, I’m middle eastern andd that shit is a staple in our cuisine. Fruits idm incorporating. Well I did have lots of fruits and veggies during the summer, forgot to mention. I do also supplement all my vitamins/minerals and clinically dose them. Although I think they are useless to supplement except for magnesium/b12. But it’s so cheap and easily I just do it.

 

[DoubleDeez]

Liver grosses me tf out, I’m middle eastern andd that shit is a staple in our cuisine. Fruits idm incorporating. Well I did have lots of fruits and veggies during the summer, forgot to mention. I do also supplement all my vitamins/minerals and clinically dose them. Although I think they are useless to supplement except for magnesium/b12. But it’s so cheap and easily I just do it.

Dehydrated liver capsules exist

 

[Gonz0]

Slu-pp-332 seems to give me more energy but it could also just be placebo. L tyrosine and alpha gpc first thing in the morning instead of caffeine also kind of helps.

 

[Liter O' Test]

you can get burnt out on high doses.

whatever you do, do not add some medicine or other compound to try to correct the underlying problem, it will make things 100x worse and you will spiral

 

[BOSSBIG]

Fatigue is a hard one to troubleshoot it could be a million different causes. Liver or kidney health are big ones.

 

[Deadpool99]

Fatigue is a hard one to troubleshoot it could be a million different causes. Liver or kidney health are big ones.

Getting labs tomorrow, but the general consensus is that it's more mental and lack of interests. I get glimpses of hope whenever I watch a favorite show or eat food. Or when on Meso/planning my training and diet.

 

[abz94]

Estrogen is the culprit many times

 

[sionnach]

Getting labs tomorrow, but the general consensus is that it's more mental and lack of interests. I get glimpses of hope whenever I watch a favorite show or eat food. Or when on Meso/planning my training and diet.

I hope you included cortisol.

 

[Ateam2023]

I hope you included cortisol.

refer to post #61

 

[sionnach]

refer to post #61

Thanks. I never learned how to read.

 

[Deadpool99]

CBC:
- RBC is the first time it has ever been elevated, seems like a one off, thought it's barley out of range.
- My MCH and MCHC is genetic, always has been low, hereditary from parents.

Lipids:
- HDL is a bit low but I am introducing a new supplement/med that would guarantee an increase back to normal
Overall: Cholesterol ratio is good

Liver:
- My natty bassline has always been a tad bit above reference, even when I'm on anavar (haven't been in 20weeks) it says fairly the same.
- Recent exercise increase it a bit, I have tested before a day vs 4 days after my last exercise, usually drops 10-15 points.

Kidney:
- Excellent, chloride and CO2 are like 1mmol/L off reference

Prolactin:
- Actually shocked it's low, haven't used caber.

E2:
- Lower than before, maybe the aggressive cut and lower bf leaded to me aromatizing less, def gonna get it up.

Cortisol and Ha1c:

- Excellent considering I'm using ksm-66 and also blasted HGH prior, rn on only 4ius of hgh

Conclusion:
- Overall the realization of my issues might be enhanced by my blood markers but are likely to be more mental, I do feel better as days pass, started to force my friends to take me out and helped alot.
- Def dropping my mast and making adjustments to get that e2 back to 50pg, although this isn't considered a tanked e2 but why not raise it.
- Prolactin is the only one that rly caught me off guard

 

[DugPrime]

Hey guys,
I have had fatigue building up where as soon as I wake up, I go to the gym then when I come home, boom zero energy and I feel sleepy and have no enjoyment, I used to be into gaming. Now I got a new installment of my favorite game coming out and don’t even care about it. Usually it’s the most anticipated moment of the year for me.

Sleeping 8 hours minimum, sometimes upto 10 hours. It was building up for a while, I have been like this for about 2 months, I used tren but it was kinda building up before tren, dropped my tren and still have the same feeling. When I was initially cutting, this wasn’t an issue then when I went back home on vacation and started eating around maintenance it started building up, so it’s clearly not diet (fully clean diet btw).

Has anyone experienced this weird lack of energy/enjoyment of life.

You can sleep 10h and still be tired, you should do a sleep study, it is possible that you don't have enough REM sleep.

 

[Deadpool99]

You can sleep 10h and still be tired, you should do a sleep study, it is possible that you don't have enough REM sleep.

I wake up energized but it falls off as the day goes by, but it has gotten better.
Ironically I just had the best sleep of my life, 8 hours straight didn't wake up.

 

[Deadpool99]

CBC:
- RBC is the first time it has ever been elevated, seems like a one off, thought it's barley out of range.
- My MCH and MCHC is genetic, always has been low, hereditary from parents.

Lipids:
- HDL is a bit low but I am introducing a new supplement/med that would guarantee an increase back to normal
Overall: Cholesterol ratio is good

Liver:
- My natty bassline has always been a tad bit above reference, even when I'm on anavar (haven't been in 20weeks) it says fairly the same.
- Recent exercise increase it a bit, I have tested before a day vs 4 days after my last exercise, usually drops 10-15 points.

Kidney:
- Excellent, chloride and CO2 are like 1mmol/L off reference

Prolactin:
- Actually shocked it's low, haven't used caber.

E2:
- Lower than before, maybe the aggressive cut and lower bf leaded to me aromatizing less, def gonna get it up.

Cortisol and Ha1c:

- Excellent considering I'm using ksm-66 and also blasted HGH prior, rn on only 4ius of hgh

Conclusion:
- Overall the realization of my issues might be enhanced by my blood markers but are likely to be more mental, I do feel better as days pass, started to force my friends to take me out and helped alot.
- Def dropping my mast and making adjustments to get that e2 back to 50pg, although this isn't considered a tanked e2 but why not raise it.
- Prolactin is the only one that rly caught me off guard

To add to my post, I think Ik why me E2 got lower, I remembered I am stopping hcg for 6 weeks, I cycle hcg on and off. So I just remembered cycling off hcg could be the reason my e2 got lower.

 

[Ateam2023]

CBC:
- RBC is the first time it has ever been elevated, seems like a one off, thought it's barley out of range.
- My MCH and MCHC is genetic, always has been low, hereditary from parents.

Lipids:
- HDL is a bit low but I am introducing a new supplement/med that would guarantee an increase back to normal
Overall: Cholesterol ratio is good

Liver:
- My natty bassline has always been a tad bit above reference, even when I'm on anavar (haven't been in 20weeks) it says fairly the same.
- Recent exercise increase it a bit, I have tested before a day vs 4 days after my last exercise, usually drops 10-15 points.

Kidney:
- Excellent, chloride and CO2 are like 1mmol/L off reference

Prolactin:
- Actually shocked it's low, haven't used caber.

E2:
- Lower than before, maybe the aggressive cut and lower bf leaded to me aromatizing less, def gonna get it up.

Cortisol and Ha1c:

- Excellent considering I'm using ksm-66 and also blasted HGH prior, rn on only 4ius of hgh

Conclusion:
- Overall the realization of my issues might be enhanced by my blood markers but are likely to be more mental, I do feel better as days pass, started to force my friends to take me out and helped alot.
- Def dropping my mast and making adjustments to get that e2 back to 50pg, although this isn't considered a tanked e2 but why not raise it.
- Prolactin is the only one that rly caught me off guard

What "supplement/meds are you taking to "guarantee" a raise in hdl?