No energy/Fatigue

Just stop the gear for a bit.

YOu are having pretty serious mental problems. Fix your head, go on trt+ for a while. Once you feel life's allright you can build back up in no time. Muscle memory works wonder.

I had to stop myself from going for your neck when I read those numbers by the way. 1.3g gear is not exactly little and can very much cause mental problems by itself. This is also what you're on after stopping tren. You can't just jump from a tren cycle to another high dose cycle and hope your mental health will approve.

Androgens take their toll.
 
TBF for 4000 TT 50 might be low. I doN't really understand how it's that low on that much test either. Mast is not an AI, just masks sides btw, so that's not it.

Are you blasting? Surely seems like it. Probably time to take a long break while fixing your mental situation. Gonna be hard like this.

Edit: only asking cause for some reason 30mg test per week was noteworthy. I thought it trt+ with some mast or something.
Actually thanks for pointing that out, I guess theoretically my E2 is within range but maybe the ratio between test/e2 is a bit low enough that I might need higher E2.
 
Actually thanks for pointing that out, I guess theoretically my E2 is within range but maybe the ratio between test/e2 is a bit low enough that I might need higher E2.
4000 and 50
Yeah bring that up might help. High
Level test I feel better around 80 in the e2 department.

Seems you want to remain on gear. And not go TRT. Do what you want, but it’s worth leveling out to normal levels and seeing if that helps. I bet the high /changed levels are throwing you for a loop
 
4000 and 50
Yeah bring that up might help. High
Level test I feel better around 80 in the e2 department.

Seems you want to remain on gear. And not go TRT. Do what you want, but it’s worth leveling out to normal levels and seeing if that helps. I bet the high /changed levels are throwing you for a loop
Will do, I have a long ass 12-15 weeks cruise incoming to reset my HPTA and let my body reset.
 
This shit tanked my cortisol. You need cortisol to function. What are your levels?
Actually this might be the one lab I don’t think I have any recent data on. I actually never thought that was a possibility, specially when I used to take clen/t3 and did an aggressive cut. Might have to add that to my labs.
 
Actually this might be the one lab I don’t think I have any recent data on. I actually never thought that was a possibility, specially when I used to take clen/t3 and did an aggressive cut. Might have to add that to my labs.
Bingo. There you go. My money's now on the ashwaghanda.
 
I’m going to pull bloodwork tomorrow. Has anyone seen elevation from ast/alt if they trained the day before? I usually try to get bloodwork 48-72 hours after my last training session but I feel like I can’t wait that long.
 
I’m going to pull bloodwork tomorrow. Has anyone seen elevation from ast/alt if they trained the day before? I usually try to get bloodwork 48-72 hours after my last training session but I feel like I can’t wait that long.
I am also debating weather 49/50 pg/ml e2 would warrant these symptoms.
 
  • Testosterone at 143.8 nmol/L = ~4148 ng/dL
  • Estradiol at 183 pmol/L = ~49.8 pg/mL
I upped my test e by 30mg since.

I take my Test E on Sat/Mon/Wed (extra injection day on Thursday when using short esters) injections and I tested on Monday pre injection.

I only use Test/Mast and I have perfected the ratios, never crashed my e2.
your estrogen is too high thats why you are on here whining about your life
try it at 25-30

but get off the masteron and lower he testosterone, youre probably just fried from androgens
do 200 test and get your estrogen to normal range
 
Hey guys,
I have had fatigue building up where as soon as I wake up, I go to the gym then when I come home, boom zero energy and I feel sleepy and have no enjoyment, I used to be into gaming. Now I got a new installment of my favorite game coming out and don’t even care about it. Usually it’s the most anticipated moment of the year for me.

Sleeping 8 hours minimum, sometimes upto 10 hours. It was building up for a while, I have been like this for about 2 months, I used tren but it was kinda building up before tren, dropped my tren and still have the same feeling. When I was initially cutting, this wasn’t an issue then when I went back home on vacation and started eating around maintenance it started building up, so it’s clearly not diet (fully clean diet btw).

Has anyone experienced this weird lack of energy/enjoyment of life.
Everyone is a fucking doctor on here lol. Before people try and win the Jeoprady contest. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT ALL ARE YOU TAKING !!!
You just gave us minimum information regarding your Tren intake but thats not going to even come close to accurately assessing all of the possible culprit(s)
 
Everyone is a fucking doctor on here lol. Before people try and win the Jeoprady contest. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT ALL ARE YOU TAKING !!!
You just gave us minimum information regarding your Tren intake but thats not going to even come close to accurately assessing all of the possible culprit(s)
Just comes in with logic, this is the internet good sir. We are all in fact Dr's and broscientists
 
Everyone is a fucking doctor on here lol. Before people try and win the Jeoprady contest. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT ALL ARE YOU TAKING !!!
You just gave us minimum information regarding your Tren intake but thats not going to even come close to accurately assessing all of the possible culprit(s)
He posted that already. Test mast and GH…

He Dropped the Tren.
 
Are you still lethargic on TRT doses? I get lethargic when doses start to go up or if powerful compounds are added, which is not unheard of. My blood work is always fine. Quite frankly I feel best on 150mg test/week but of course your not getting gains on that dose.

I'm about to do my sleep study for a CPAP see if that helps.
 
Take the Bupropion as you are sooooo bent on taking it. After it doesn't work, start taking every other advise posted in the thread right from the first one...
 
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