What’s your sleep stack?

[Neuroticahh]

So I’ve used PEDs for many years but recently I’ve been having issues sleeping. It’s mainly due to the stimulant abuse, and that the effects from it last even weeks after cessation. I use 5-6 ius hgh daily, melatonin nightly, try to time my circadian rhythm and avoid anything stimulant related before bed. I have not done a sleep study, I’m looking into the costs / availability.

My current cycle is 800mg test and the gh. I wanted to add EQ and a very low dose tren to supplement my growth but I really need this sleep dialed in. It’s catching up to me.

 

[BamaCrazy]

So I’ve used PEDs for many years but recently I’ve been having issues sleeping. It’s mainly due to the stimulant abuse, and that the effects from it last even weeks after cessation. I use 5-6 ius hgh daily, melatonin nightly, try to time my circadian rhythm and avoid anything stimulant related before bed. I have not done a sleep study, I’m looking into the costs / availability.

My current cycle is 800g test and the gh. I wanted to add EQ and a very low dose tren to supplement my growth but I really need this sleep dialed in. It’s catching up to me.

You can try the natural route. Melatonin, GABA, Ashwagandha, 5-HTP, and Magnesium. None of those help me a lot. My problem isn’t falling asleep. It’s staying asleep. I wake at 3AM and I rarely fall back asleep.

Something new I discovered is Troscriptions Tro+ Somna. It has Ingredients in it I’ve never heard of but after 2 weeks my sleep quality has definitely improved. And my Wife is now taking it also.

Or you can try Trazodone. The Army prescribed it to me for sleep after they took me off Ambien. It works pretty well and has little to no side effects for me. But I rarely use it now.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Something new I discovered is Troscriptions Tro+ Somna. It has Ingredients in it I’ve never heard of but after 2 weeks my sleep quality has definitely improved. And my Wife is now taking it also.

I never tried this but my impression is Troscriptions uses very high quality ingredients

And at those amounts, you can get 16 doses per pack

 

[Photon]

Something new I discovered is Troscriptions Tro+ Somna. It has Ingredients in it I’ve never heard of but after 2 weeks my sleep quality has definitely improved. And my Wife is now taking it also.

I wonder if the effect comes from this.
The other ingredients look pretty mild..

Muscimol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Muscimol, also known as agarin or pantherine..



I can't seem to find anywhere else that sells it standalone

 

[RockyP]

So I’ve used PEDs for many years but recently I’ve been having issues sleeping. It’s mainly due to the stimulant abuse, and that the effects from it last even weeks after cessation. I use 5-6 ius hgh daily, melatonin nightly, try to time my circadian rhythm and avoid anything stimulant related before bed. I have not done a sleep study, I’m looking into the costs / availability.

My current cycle is 800mg test and the gh. I wanted to add EQ and a very low dose tren to supplement my growth but I really need this sleep dialed in. It’s catching up to me.

Not sure if it could be related but what's your E2 on 800 test with no AI?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

You can try the natural route. Melatonin, GABA, Ashwagandha, 5-HTP, and Magnesium. None of those help me a lot. My problem isn’t falling asleep. It’s staying asleep. I wake at 3AM and I rarely fall back asleep.

Something new I discovered is Troscriptions Tro+ Somna. It has Ingredients in it I’ve never heard of but after 2 weeks my sleep quality has definitely improved. And my Wife is now taking it also.

Or you can try Trazodone. The Army prescribed it to me for sleep after they took me off Ambien. It works pretty well and has little to no side effects for me. But I rarely use it now.

Extended release melatonin is awesome.

REM fresh or "sleep 3" from costco

 

[PiscesMoon]

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I wonder if the effect comes from this.
The other ingredients look pretty mild..

Muscimol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Muscimol, also known as agarin or pantherine..

View attachment 345935

I can't seem to find anywhere else that sells it standalone

Honokiol in the mix, reminds of Magnolia Bark Extract (Honokiol + Magnolol) being great for relaxation and sleep.

Search for "muscimol hcl" or "muscimol gummies"

(Magnolia Bark Extract as well as Muscimol involves GABA though, so something to keep in mind.)

edit - Have also found sublingual/fast dissolve Melatonin tablets to be super effective recently for acute "chilling out and sleeping" needs.

Also, CBD isolate + CBN isolate. Mixed in a shot glass with coconut oil or olive oil.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I never tried this but my impression is Troscriptions uses very high quality ingredients

And at those amounts, you can get 16 doses per pack

Troscriptions will not sell you Tro+ Somna or Tro+ Blue (50mg) directly. You have to go through a “prescriber”. So I found one that sells them online without being a customer.

 

[BamaCrazy]

View attachment 345934

I wonder if the effect comes from this.
The other ingredients look pretty mild..

Muscimol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Muscimol, also known as agarin or pantherine..

View attachment 345935

I can't seem to find anywhere else that sells it standalone

That must be what makes you feel so peaceful and relaxed. It’s wild how that sleep med chills me out.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Troscriptions will not sell you Tro+ Somna or Tro+ Blue (50mg) directly. You have to go through a “prescriber”. So I found one that sells them online without being a customer.

I got Tro+ Blue without entering any prescriber information

Maybe it's like the Medex thing ?

 

[AlexDavis43]

View attachment 345934

I wonder if the effect comes from this.
The other ingredients look pretty mild..

Muscimol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Muscimol, also known as agarin or pantherine..

View attachment 345935

I can't seem to find anywhere else that sells it standalone

Now I kinda want to try it

 

[Oswizzle]

Couple massive bowls of high potency tree … always gets the job done

 

[wp_375]

Extended release melatonin is awesome.

REM fresh or "sleep 3" from costco

I knew melatonin has a super short half life, took until today to realize extended release melatonin was a thing LOL. Seems like the perfect way to use it

 

[Deadpool99]

Extended release melatonin is awesome.

REM fresh or "sleep 3" from costco

Curious how u dose ur Melatonin ER. I took 10mg for the first time around 90mins before I planned to sleep. Slept fast, slept well, but I would have rather slept 9 hours instead of 7 hours.

I also realize many like 5-10x my dose, should I just opt for a higher dose? Seems like there is no inherent risk.

Cuz tbh I wake up early and have nothing to do. I wake up fully rejuvenated but I used to sleep for 9-11 hours.

Pre melatonin I can sleep those 8-9 hours with the occasional 1-2 times I wake up to pee, but I was interested to see if I can get better sleep by using it.

Shouldn't the melatonin er be able to make me sleep longer? Should I up the dose?

 

[Ateam2023]

Trazadone
Gaba
Magnesium Threonate
Glycine
L theanine
Sometimes i will add Ashwaganda

 

[nilescrypt]

So I’ve used PEDs for many years but recently I’ve been having issues sleeping. It’s mainly due to the stimulant abuse, and that the effects from it last even weeks after cessation. I use 5-6 ius hgh daily, melatonin nightly, try to time my circadian rhythm and avoid anything stimulant related before bed. I have not done a sleep study, I’m looking into the costs / availability.

My current cycle is 800mg test and the gh. I wanted to add EQ and a very low dose tren to supplement my growth but I really need this sleep dialed in. It’s catching up to me.

I always used to have issues with sleep until my shrink put me on Mirtazapine & Seroquel. would highly recommend those.

I also used to take zopiclone as needed, but i don’t recommend it because you can become dependent on it.

also, if you want to go the natural route, don’t overdo the melatonin. allegedly if you take to much it cancels out or something of the sorts

 

[Eddie.]

I always used to have issues with sleep until my shrink put me on Mirtazapine & Seroquel. would highly recommend those.

What's your dosage for these two? With a quick look they're both listed as anti psychotics in my country, although i believe i can buy them without prescription. Do you take them every night?

Had always very poor sleep but lately is getting out of hand. Last night i was 6:30 hours in bed and slept 5:30 of them. My watch says i woke up 8 times but I'm sure it's double that. Under an hour of deep sleep.. And that's with magnesium, gaba, 10mg melatonin, l theanine etc. Perhaps I'll have to go to pharma route

 

[b3n]

+ as much magnesium as you tolerate in your preferred form
+ 3g Glycine (if you are deficient, this will work wonders)
+ Melatonin & california poppy [combination product]

 

[Proud Pangolin]

So I’ve used PEDs for many years but recently I’ve been having issues sleeping. It’s mainly due to the stimulant abuse, and that the effects from it last even weeks after cessation. I use 5-6 ius hgh daily, melatonin nightly, try to time my circadian rhythm and avoid anything stimulant related before bed. I have not done a sleep study, I’m looking into the costs / availability.

My current cycle is 800mg test and the gh. I wanted to add EQ and a very low dose tren to supplement my growth but I really need this sleep dialed in. It’s catching up to me.

-6mg melantonin TIME RELEASE!!!(Very important)

-GABA 1500-3000mg

- Magnesiumbisglycinat
(i also tried magnesium threonate because there is actually a study proving it crossing the bloodbrain barrier, which we dont have for Bisglycinat because it simply was never tested however i didnt notice any difference besides in my wallet, i even liked the Bis better, which many people report. Take it right before turning off the lights for deeper sleep)

And now my BEST ADVISE and i SWEAR ON IT:

-3.0 Hz. Delta Waves!
Im using this one:

View: https://youtu.be/nkkJgdiR8IA


Thats about the frequency of your EEG waves during deep sleep. (0.5-4.0HZ)

First of all you fall faster asleep because you are conditioning yourself if you only play it when you are going to bed. And my sleep really improved, i have the feeling i sleep deeper.

Weirdly enough i dream a lot more on it! I havent dreamed for years before i started using this about 1 year ago.

You could also try Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide

 

[nilescrypt]

What's your dosage for these two? With a quick look they're both listed as anti psychotics in my country, although i believe i can buy them without prescription. Do you take them every night?

Had always very poor sleep but lately is getting out of hand. Last night i was 6:30 hours in bed and slept 5:30 of them. My watch says i woke up 8 times but I'm sure it's double that. Under an hour of deep sleep.. And that's with magnesium, gaba, 10mg melatonin, l theanine etc. Perhaps I'll have to go

What's your dosage for these two? With a quick look they're both listed as anti psychotics in my country, although i believe i can buy them without prescription. Do you take them every night?

Had always very poor sleep but lately is getting out of hand. Last night i was 6:30 hours in bed and slept 5:30 of them. My watch says i woke up 8 times but I'm sure it's double that. Under an hour of deep sleep.. And that's with magnesium, gaba, 10mg melatonin, l theanine etc. Perhaps I'll have to go to pharma route

yes they’re both antipsychotics but (at least where i am) are often prescribed off label at lower doses to treat insomnia.



mirtazapine- 30mg (doc warned me higher than might have opposite effect)



seroquel - technically it’s 25mg, but as it’s a PRN, some nights i take 50mg, sometimes 25mg, most of the time none at all. i honestly only use it as my last resort bc im scared of the sleep snacking lol.



it’s gonna sound stupid but another thing you could try is a 3d sleep mask. i got the one from manta sleep because i was waking up in the night & traditional sleep masks don’t block out all of the light.