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Okay, since i get a lot of differnt wishes and ideas, i decided to make a Poll!
You can just vote here, what you would prefer and we would consider this in the end!
I will post the results on Saturday!
Poll is comming in the next Comment, this App i used is shit.
You can just vote here, what you would prefer and we would consider this in the end!
I will post the results on Saturday!
Poll is comming in the next Comment, this App i used is shit.
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Den84
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I was undecided between MCT/bb and GSO/bb, then I voted GSO/bb because I already have a brand on hand that uses MCT, and most brands use MCT, while GSO is rarer, so I would like to have a stable and easily accessible brand with GSO that I can use alongside the MCT brand.
Sesame oil is also very good, natural and much less viscous than castor, but never as fluid as MCT, it is also used by pharmaceutical companies, as well as by some of the most popular ugls on this forum, who however on some molecules mix it with GSO and/or MCT.
Regarding castor oil, I already expressed my opinion a few posts back, in my opinion it's a gamble to produce the entire line with this damned thick oil. Balkan used it only on one molecule: Test U, to slow absorption, considering that it's used for TRT, while across the entire line they used peach oil, which is definitely more fluid than castor.
I would like to add that I personally had a terrible experience with Bayer's Testoviron (which I took directly from the pharmacy when it was still available on a white prescription). Unfortunately, it was not absorbed into the muscles and caused devastating PIP, sometimes accompanied by fever. So I am “biased”, don’t rely too much on my comment, but think about it.
Sesame oil is also very good, natural and much less viscous than castor, but never as fluid as MCT, it is also used by pharmaceutical companies, as well as by some of the most popular ugls on this forum, who however on some molecules mix it with GSO and/or MCT.
Regarding castor oil, I already expressed my opinion a few posts back, in my opinion it's a gamble to produce the entire line with this damned thick oil. Balkan used it only on one molecule: Test U, to slow absorption, considering that it's used for TRT, while across the entire line they used peach oil, which is definitely more fluid than castor.
I would like to add that I personally had a terrible experience with Bayer's Testoviron (which I took directly from the pharmacy when it was still available on a white prescription). Unfortunately, it was not absorbed into the muscles and caused devastating PIP, sometimes accompanied by fever. So I am “biased”, don’t rely too much on my comment, but think about it.
Every opinion is important, especially many opinions. I cant make everyone happy, but i that i find a solution that is widely accepted and people are happy with it.
I mean MCT is just classical and hard to make something wrong. Only problem is solubility. Making Testo E 450 will be hard with MCT. Maybe there the solution would be to mix it with EO. But we will see, im super curious what carrier people will vote. Maybe i make a new thread for this even.
So far MCT is massively leading the poll
Results: Which carrier oil you prefer for the Brand APEX LABS? - StrawPoll
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OilCarrier
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Ever since I tried a mix of 50/50 Castor & MCT, I've never looked back. easy to draw and I can still pin it with a 30G it I want, but still benefit from the less abrupt absorption (preventing estrogen spikes) of the molecules absorbed in the castor.
Youre absolutely right about the mix, like said it sounds amazing. But the high concentrations could be a problem.
But anyway, MCT is the most voted carrier by far at the moment, so maybe it really will be a mix with MCT and maybe even Castor.
yoyoy
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I wiill say, as long as it is MCT/GSO/Castor/Sesame oil, I will buy it, if the rest is correct. I do daily SubQ injections so MCT is probably the best, but I have used GSO from Opti so far with no complaints about drawing and injections. I just change needles and got used to it, no probs. Looking forward to your new stuff mate
OilCarrier
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I haven't tested it at 400mg/ml and up, but TE @250 works amazing with that ratio and just the regular 1% BA, 15%BB. I myself avoid products with EO for the risk of raising inflammation, it's not sustainable.
Your brand is interesting and I have been following the thread with attention. The follow ups you do seem really quick which I like! I have however grown politely sceptical of finished products where a lot of effort goes into marketing. A reseller can only guess what's in there (to a certain degree.)
The only thing I and I think many others too would want in Europe is a sure thing, a reliable brand and vendor that delivers time and time again, like Liska did for example. The only thing that matters is what's inside the package, not the actual package. If it's a finished oil, the most important to me is that the filtering is done properly 22um and regular testing is being shown. Not only by the vendor that shows the test of the manufacturer, but audited and vetted by customers as well. I wish you the best in this endeavour and the way you are communicating is refreshing and a promising sign!
IndividualMan
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those concentrations are nice for some of the bigger guys. pinning ED is not a nice feeling, Plus scar tissue buildup gets real bad after a few years.
Daily subQ already make you feel like a big ass pin cushion.
450/ml or 400/ml test is great for some of the bigger lads, think someone who is as big as @Mishka especially in combination with a bit of mast E
Daily subQ already make you feel like a big ass pin cushion.
450/ml or 400/ml test is great for some of the bigger lads, think someone who is as big as @Mishka especially in combination with a bit of mast E
I got a lot of request for something dosed as high as possible. So definetly will do the hardcore line.
Injecting daily might be nice, but most people hate it, including me. Theres nothing worse than injection day.
Youre just a little masochist Manu
the Primo turned you into that
I mean i will let it run, to get as many votes as possible, but its kinda obvious already, what you guys want mostly.
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What is your opinion? Vote now!
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OilCarrier
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I love injecting daily, I draw with a 21G and pin with a 30G, easily 1000mg a week, but its not hard to double that either. I hardly notice the pin and have never built up any scar tissue at that needle size over the years. easy to rotate spots as well. I can't understand the guys harpooning themselves with anything under a 26g, which is the lowest I went. (I did get some scar tissue temporarily from that size, but it was because of poor rotation.). Only thing is with the 30g I need a little more patience (but not that much) when injecting.
rockyraccoon
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Peach oil if you want to be different from other UGLs. You can become the new underground Balkan lol
Mishka
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I am injecting 15 per week. 3 x 5 ml. Lats, delts, glutes.
I‘d love to use something like 400 mg/ml things - tho a good solved mix - without crippling PIP.
I mean imagine going from like 250 x 15 to 400 x 15 - that will be a big jump in size and strength
I mean, one could easily up the Test from 3750 to a whopping 6000 per week.
IronLinus
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Jesus Christ, 6G of gear per week.... now imagine everything would be castor oilI am injecting 15 per week. 3 x 5 ml. Lats, delts, glutes.
I‘d love to use something like 400 mg/ml things - tho a good solved mix - without crippling PIP.
I mean imagine going from like 250 x 15 to 400 x 15 - that will be a big jump in size and strength
I mean, one could easily up the Test from 3750 to a whopping 6000 per week.
that would probably hurt like S H I TIndividualMan
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castor no hurty. I like castor because it no hurty. only if injection skill poop castor hurty
I guess we have some confusion going on here, who the fuck said you can't brew 450 test E in MCT without EO? Lol
Or that it would hard to hold?
You can do ANY high concentration gear (excluding orals) with MCT and BB.
Test D 500/550? Deca 500? Masteron E 400+? Tren 300? EQ 600? Test E 400+?
There are few substances tho that if you go high it will hurts no matter what you do.
Test E holds 250mg without even any solvents, why would be a problem to have it hold at 450mg with MCT?
MCT is the natural oil that it's easier to use for holding high concentration products. I guess someone here should change his brewer or I don't know.. learn a thing or two maybe?
Do I need to continue?
Castor oil thick? Yeah if you are injecting raw castor oil with no BB sure.
Castor oil with the correct amount of BB on medium concentration products is so thin I have no problem injecting it with a 29G insulin pin. Could easily do 30G.
One could do a whole castor oil line that can be injected with a 25/26G with no issue, including high concentration one.
I wouldn't suggest it tho, there are better medium viscosity oil to use.
Sesame oil is great alternative from MCT but the gold standard for medium viscosity is cottonseed oil. It's ultra tested in many injectable preparations and it was the FDA approved carrier oil for test cypionate.
GSO is another good alternative however it has been used only in UGL productions, it's not used in pharmaceutical preparations.
Or that it would hard to hold?
You can do ANY high concentration gear (excluding orals) with MCT and BB.
Test D 500/550? Deca 500? Masteron E 400+? Tren 300? EQ 600? Test E 400+?
There are few substances tho that if you go high it will hurts no matter what you do.
Test E holds 250mg without even any solvents, why would be a problem to have it hold at 450mg with MCT?
MCT is the natural oil that it's easier to use for holding high concentration products. I guess someone here should change his brewer or I don't know.. learn a thing or two maybe?
Do I need to continue?
Castor oil thick? Yeah if you are injecting raw castor oil with no BB sure.
Castor oil with the correct amount of BB on medium concentration products is so thin I have no problem injecting it with a 29G insulin pin. Could easily do 30G.
One could do a whole castor oil line that can be injected with a 25/26G with no issue, including high concentration one.
I wouldn't suggest it tho, there are better medium viscosity oil to use.
Sesame oil is great alternative from MCT but the gold standard for medium viscosity is cottonseed oil. It's ultra tested in many injectable preparations and it was the FDA approved carrier oil for test cypionate.
GSO is another good alternative however it has been used only in UGL productions, it's not used in pharmaceutical preparations.
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