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Didnt say it was alot. But 300 people in a single room is alot and i can't complain when they are happy and constantly report how smooth and pip free my products are. Nothing makes me happier than a good review which i have plenty un provoked.
Your fucking exhausting. All the alts, angling, and questionable tactics. One thing I have learned in life is the guy who calls himself and expert, who exalts his own achievements,.brags about his contributions is NEVER who they think they are. And certainly not who they are selling. Try contributing to contribute. Try some humility. Maybe slow your roll. Your not the scholar of brew. You have some Interesting ideas and approaches. Now prove them through testing and stop fucking sterilizing your lab equipment in your oven.
 
I literally got them yesterday

I'm still trying to build up the courage to actually open it up in process.

I don't know if it is even worth it. It's disgusting and it looks like poop and I cannot stand the smell of poop and it doesn't smell like poop, but it reminds me of poop. So that's all I need to see.
Damn. I wonder what the hell they actually sent. India needs to get their act together if they want us to consider raws from them. Maybe they just aren't that interested
 
Damn. I wonder what the hell they actually sent. India needs to get their act together if they want us to consider raws from them. Maybe they just aren't that interested
Being poor in a desperate country doesn't bold well for their actual long-term thinking abilities.
 
All a guy has to do is pay a few bucks here? Especially someone that was already banned?

Surely there is more to the process to actually get a source thread. Primal was here for a minute in the lab testing section before they were able to drop their thread in the underground.
No, in order to be a source here, you have to prove your testing process, you have to pay for your own testing, which includes taking a sample of your own and sending to Jano through your own money. No other testing is allowed. And I'm also pretty sure you have to show proof of your process.
 
ay man, I am kinda disappointed in you. After returning from your label mishap/scam and talking about recrystallisation I had high hopes that you turned a new leaf and were comitted to documenting your journey of the applied sciences.

sad that you turned out to act like a reckless, edgy, powertrippy commercial gym gear source.
 
ay man, I am kinda disappointed in you. After returning from your label mishap/scam and talking about recrystallisation I had high hopes that you turned a new leaf and were comitted to documenting your journey of the applied sciences.

sad that you turned out to act like a reckless, edgy, powertrippy commercial gym gear source.
He has been banned.
 
Might sound stupid but if you had a brew that had crashed (was all crystals formed on the bottom of the media bottle) could you still salvage this by pouring the oil out? Then rinsing with ethanol and somehow getting the crystals out?

I've got an odd situation of mast E crashing, even at 25% or higher BB in MCT oil at 200mg/ml. I sent it off for testing and it came back as 94% mast E

But every batch I make even if I add in a bunch more BB and it holds, it gives really bad pip. Hoping to salvage what I can as money is hard to come by for me, along with this compound

Thanks in advance
 
Might sound stupid but if you had a brew that had crashed (was all crystals formed on the bottom of the media bottle) could you still salvage this by pouring the oil out? Then rinsing with ethanol and somehow getting the crystals out?

I've got an odd situation of mast E crashing, even at 25% or higher BB in MCT oil at 200mg/ml. I sent it off for testing and it came back as 94% mast E

But every batch I make even if I add in a bunch more BB and it holds, it gives really bad pip. Hoping to salvage what I can as money is hard to come by for me, along with this compound

Thanks in advance
I'd just dilute the brew, not just with a touch of bb, rather more oil aswell but I'm no chesmist.

100mg/ml and call it a day.
 
I'd just dilute the brew, not just with a touch of bb, rather more oil aswell but I'm no chesmist.

100mg/ml and call it a day.
Thanks mate, I tried a batch at 150mg and still pip. Maybe 100mg might be better though.
Never had this with raws before.. Wonder what it could be
 
Has anyone done this with Test E? I've alot of success with test c, crashes out well. But with test e, it dosent want to drop out of solution with ethanol, even at -18f temps. Mixtures is about 1:1 test e and ethanol (30grams raws and 30ml ethanol). Any suggestions?
 
Has anyone done this with Test E? I've alot of success with test c, crashes out well. But with test e, it dosent want to drop out of solution with ethanol, even at -18f temps. Mixtures is about 1:1 test e and ethanol (30grams raws and 30ml ethanol). Any suggestions?
Nevermind, once I reduced down the ethanol content down even further, I was able to get it to crash out. Took -18f temperatures for 24hrs to get it all to solidify.These liquid raws are alot less forgiving than the powder raws. Recrystalizing it deff removed alot of yellowness from the Test E raws
 

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Raising the Standard​


The purpose of this thread is to present a comprehensive, reproducible, lab-grade method for purifying steroid raws prior to conversion. This is not a replacement for quality manufacturing..
this is a corrective technique to deal with substandard materials when no other option is available.


We must be clear: this is not an excuse for manufacturers to cut corners. This is a stopgap solution that allows individual compounders and responsible middlemen to clean up contaminated or adulterated product until true GMP-level practices are adopted upstream. Even if we can't achieve GMP standards, increasing the standard in general is a wise idea.


Suppliers and sterile manufacturers should be the ones using this technique before raw powders are ever released to customers. But in the current state of the market, with contamination levels ranging from oils, moisture, dyes, and binding agents, we must be realistic:


If you're receiving raw material that is 88% pure or lower, purification via recrystallization is one of the only ways to salvage it.




The Chemistry of Recrystallization


Recrystallization relies on the principle that your active compound (the steroid) has a different solubility profile in high-purity solvents than the impurities it's mixed with.


Process Overview:


  1. Dissolve the raw steroid in a high-purity hot solvent (typically 99.5%+ ethanol or acetone).
  2. Hot filter to remove insoluble trash like oils, waxes, pigments, or binders.
  3. Crash the steroid out of solution by either cooling it slowly or adding an anti-solvent (e.g. distilled or deionized water).
  4. Cold filter the solid crystals that form.
  5. Dry the purified crystals under vacuum or low-temp desiccation.

The result is a significantly cleaner yield of the target hormone.




Materials Required (Laboratory-Grade Only)


To perform this properly, you will need:


  • High-purity 99%+ ethanol (USP or reagent grade)
  • Deionized or distilled water
  • Borosilicate glass beakers or flasks
  • Magnetic stirrer or hot plate with temp control
  • Lab-grade filter paper (e.g. Whatman #1, #5, or #42 depending on micron rating)
  • Glass Büchner funnel or vacuum filter system
  • Vacuum pump or manual vacuum system
  • Desiccator or low-heat oven (<50°C) for drying
  • Sterile gloves, masks, and clean workspace

This is a lab-grade procedure and should be treated as such. However not everyone has simple lab grade methods on hand or equipment but we can get close.

Using denatured alcohol, hardware solvents, or kitchen equipment is not compatible with achieving pharmaceutical-grade results.




Filter Selection: Micron Guidance


Filtering is a critical part of this process.


Avoid coffee filters, fabric, or makeshift setups. They are neither consistent nor clean enough for this application.




Purity Yield Expectations


  • Starting with 85–90% purity raws: expect to retain 75–85% yield with 95–98% final purity
  • Starting with 70–80% purity: expect 60–70% final yield, but potentially 95%+ purity in recovered material
  • Starting with 50–60%: much lower yield, but still usable; multiple recrystallizations may be needed

You cannot increase the quantity of active steroid..
you are simply removing the non-active garbage that never belonged there.




Why This Should Be Done by Suppliers First


The responsibility for ensuring compound purity should never fall solely on the end-user. This method exists as a response to an unreliable supply chain. Ideally, this process would be handled by:


  • Raw suppliers prior to export
  • Domestic middlemen before resale
  • UGL operators prior to formulation

Unfortunately, we know that none of these parties are consistently doing that. Until they do, this is the most accessible way to reclaim agency over the quality of your injections.




Case Use: Why You Might Still Want to Purify


Let’s say you spent $600 on 50g of Mast P raw, and it tests at 88% purity.


  • That means 12% of it is crap: moisture, oil, cut, dye, residue, who knows.
  • You were going to overdose the brew anyway to compensate.

So instead:


  • Recrystallize it
  • Remove the 12% junk that would have made your oil cloudy, painful, or difficult to sterilize
  • Formulate your gear with precision dosing and no guesswork

You didn’t lose yield. You gained control.




Follow-Up Testing and Service Outlook


I am currently in the process of:


  • Building a controlled setup with proper labware
  • Processing multiple raw batches through purification
  • Sending both unprocessed and recrystallized samples to Jano for comparative analysis

If the testing confirms what we already observe visually and physically, I will explore offering a service for those who do not have time, space, or resources to build this setup.




Final Thoughts


This process is:


  • Chemistry-backed
  • Lab-standard
  • Easily replicable with the correct tools
  • Completely justified in a contaminated market

This should never be the first option, but it is currently one of the best fallback options we have.


If the people selling us product won’t clean it, we will.


And we’ll do it right


The following are are compatible with this method.

Testosterone Enanthate

Testosterone Cypionate

Testosterone Propionate

Testosterone Phenylpropionate

Testosterone Isocaproate

Testosterone Decanoate

Testosterone Undecanoate

Trenbolone Acetate

Trenbolone Enanthate

Nandrolone Decanoate

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate

Masteron Propionate

Masteron Enanthate

Primobolan Enanthate

Methenolone Acetate

Boldenone Acetate

Turinabol (Oral)

Winstrol (Stanozolol)

Oxandrolone (Anavar)

Oxymetholone (Anadrol)

Mesterolone (Proviron)

Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone)

1-Testosterone (Dihydroboldenone)

1-Test Cypionate

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT base)

Methyltestosterone

Mestanolone

Drostanolone Propionate

Drostanolone Enanthate



Anything waxy or oil at room temperature will be much harder to do. It's doable, but we'll take a bit extra steps.



You'll welcome to say this is pointless, but in this current market
We either hope the manufacturers step up and do better, or we make do what we can for now. while still pushing the manufacturer to do better.
When looking at ethanol at the lab supply companies I see 190 proof non denatured ethanol or 200 proof denatured ethanol. Which one of these is preferred for this process?
 
that guy is banned.


denatured ethanol is toxic. if you want to follow his proccess you should acquire 99.5%+ non denatured ethanol.
I saw he was banned I was hoping someone else would weigh in . Thank you. I'm going to give this a shot on some yellow NPP then test. It can't make it any worse
 
I saw he was banned I was hoping someone else would weigh in . Thank you. I'm going to give this a shot on some yellow NPP then test. It can't make it any worse
report back with your insights and findings when you're done!



i personally haven't tried it yet because i simply didnt see the need for it but would be great to get some spice on the thread even tho walter is banned.
 
I saw he was banned I was hoping someone else would weigh in . Thank you. I'm going to give this a shot on some yellow NPP then test. It can't make it any worse
I went ahead and processed some dirty test c raws that looked like they were scraped off the floor. Was pretty seamless, just have to make sure you dry out all the ethanol from it. Raws looked way better when I was done. Jano testing should confirm that, I'll post that once I get it.
 

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