Always loved deca/npp never had bad sides with it just yesterday bought more npp to keep the stash full and today woke up out of breath RHR 120 panic anxiety no idea what it was muscle craps heart palpitations all the nasty stuff .. what a shame looks like I have to give up on nandrolone..
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No more nandrolone for me
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Sorry Brother. Been there. Hard to tell what causes these. Hope it is a one off. Hang in there. Don't ruminate on it. Move forward.
Thanks man
It really hits like a train
sionnach
Banned
How much are you pissing? You probably just need more sodium.
BP_6
Member
You are automatically blaming the nandrolone?
People dont get it till it hits them. Wishing you the very best.
RockyP
Member
Sorry to hear this brother. What dosage are you running?
Psy-chonaut
Member
Like @RockyP said - How much NPP/deca were you running, and what else do/did you have in the mix ??
Seen people that have run test + deca several times, with No problems - then they add a bit Mast and it triggers massive anxiety - they split with the wife etc…just madness - is it the Nandrolone/ is it Mast, or a synergi between them - idk…
I think it is safe to say one should anticipate these types of events can happen when playing around with AAS. Not specifically just nandrolone.
And of course can happen without AAS.
RockyP
Member
I had similar, but not nearly as severe, symptoms when I started HRT using a potent TNE cream. The first few days I had so much energy I could not sit still. I’d be at my desk working and unable to concentrate. Would have to get up and go do an hour of cardio to work out the energy. And that was just something that doubled my test levels (albeit in a matter of days).
to the OP, can you tell us more about what else you’re running, ester types, dosages, when compounds started, etc?
nerdwithmuscles
New Member
I think its crazy how different people react to compounds. I love Nandrolone. I like both deca and npp. I feel great, strong, full, put on a ton of size, and I will get a pump from lifting a water bottle. I added in mast with npp/test this cycle, and I feel like a super hero. No anxiety or anything, just overall high well being and crazy gym sessions. I feel bad for all these guys who cant run it. Its my favorite.
lukiss96
Member
Nandrolone (Deca) is too complicated. The results in mass are great at first, but later on that sudden depression out of nowhere alongside with problems and other issues that cause hormonal roller coaster is definitely not worth it at the end of the day. I don't miss it at all.
BigDadd7
Member
A history of no sides... but one time you wake up with an elevated HR and it's over?
OldGHGuy
Member
For me, I can take Test + Nandrolone or Test + Primo no problem BUT if I take Test + Nandrolone + Primo, even at a comparable total AAS amount, my BP shoots thru the roof.
Blood work is perfect electrolytes are in range I always add extra sodium with food before gym and with protein shakes I also supplement with electrolytes supplement.
Unfortunately yes I used deca and npp for over 7 years such event happened a year ago but I thought it was the Hgh as I was running it at 10iu a day now it happened way to early and it’s like the body tells you it’s the nandrolone..
Thanks man yes this is far worse than panic attack or anxiety I’m usually don’t over react as I have no issues with over stimulating my cns but this is something far else hard to describe..
750 test
250 deca
200 npp
100 tren
Over 7 years on deca/npp never had issues with it until now which is basically second time that confirms it it’s nandrolone
Yeah
750 test
250 deca
200 npp
Aromasin
Caber
I wish it was panic attack the only reason I used deca and npp all those years cause it made me chill this is not panic attack this is nandrolone messes with something in the body but looks like we don’t have data on it
A year ago happened everyday out of the blue at the gym I lift a dumbbell HR goes from 80 to 160 can’t breathe I walk it off same shit again I was on 525 test 500npp 1000 masteron and 10iu Hgh I thought back then it was the Hgh but now .. no Hgh nothing fancy in my mix blood work is good everything is in range and I woke up and took me a second to realize that I can’t breath and my HR was all over the place with spasms all over the body and in the heart it’s weird sht can’t even describe it I once took 60mg adderall and I could shake it off this is different.
Any aas can cause anxiety and panic attacks. The super levels of exogenous hormone has a tendency to put you in fight or flight mode without any external stimulus. This makes it pretty difficult to know when a panic attack may happen.
I can tell you, from experience, if you feel one coming on... get up and start moving. Go to the gym, go for a short run, something to answer that fight or flight response.
Tren is very well know for causing this. I'm willing to bet the tren is the main cause. This is why I only used tren a. If the panic attacks become unbearable you simply stop. If you think it's from npp then stop. Panic attacks are different for everyone. When I have them no aas is worth the absolute torture.
Lowering dose can help. I can handle tren a at about 75mg per week with no issues. When I did 350mg per week the attacks would come eventually... every time.
I can tell you, from experience, if you feel one coming on... get up and start moving. Go to the gym, go for a short run, something to answer that fight or flight response.
Tren is very well know for causing this. I'm willing to bet the tren is the main cause. This is why I only used tren a. If the panic attacks become unbearable you simply stop. If you think it's from npp then stop. Panic attacks are different for everyone. When I have them no aas is worth the absolute torture.
Lowering dose can help. I can handle tren a at about 75mg per week with no issues. When I did 350mg per week the attacks would come eventually... every time.
Liter O' Test
Member
sleep apnea? deca bloated the hell out out of me and caused it
RockyP
Member
Would highly recommend all PED users get a sleep study. Even if you’re shredded / not fat / not big. The hormones can cause hypertrophy of soft tissue / tonsils / airway structures. If you already have OSA, PEDs will Make it worse. And waking up in a panic w difficulty breathing and racing heart can be an apneic episode. I’ve had many of those prior to CPAP
Also, OSA will raise your HCT.
