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Long Term Lean Bulk Question

nekojeeta said:
They all can cause hair loss… test will make it happen faster as it rises dht the most. As long as u got aloe on upping doses and keep getting bloodwork the risk of hair loss can be managed..

I know, fuck me for doing shit right?
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tarred

stop clinging to bits and bobs you heard in some YT video, for gods sake. any DHT derivative is gonna raze your hairline faster than test.
Yes, test partially 5-alpha reduces into DHT. at a very low rate. you know what is more androgenic & hair unfriendly than the ~5mg DHT you are gonna get from a very generous dose of test? the 35mg DHB you get by injecting it into your asscheek.

You say you have family who you care about, so here is my tip for you: leave your grubby little hands off the DHB. toss it. gift it to someone you dont particularly like. I dont care. just get it away from you, run a decent test dose with a 5ar Inhibitor and some exemestane for the rest of your life and stay moderately jacked, healthy and happy.

Live to see retirement without needing to do dialysis. without having NAFLD. without the nerve damage from the solvents needed to properly hold DHB above 50mg/ml.

and please, stop getting your infos from people on social media.
 
nekojeeta said:
Long term AI usage does have some negative consequences on your body… but for me I know the max dose of Test I can run to not only get sides but to generate the e2 I need to get max igf1 conversion to igf1.

MastE is a less harsh way to get that anabolic load

DHB seems to not mess with e2 and based on what I’ve read so far no worse on dht than mast
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It sounds like youre set on running DHB no matter what anyone says, so full send it bro.
 
IndividualMan said:
re:
tarred

stop clinging to bits and bobs you heard in some YT video, for gods sake. any DHT derivative is gonna raze your hairline faster than test.
Yes, test partially 5-alpha reduces into DHT. at a very low rate. you know what is more androgenic & hair unfriendly than the ~5mg DHT you are gonna get from a very generous dose of test? the 35mg DHB you get by injecting it into your asscheek.

You say you have family who you care about, so here is my tip for you: leave your grubby little hands off the DHB. toss it. gift it to someone you dont particularly like. I dont care. just get it away from you, run a decent test dose with a 5ar Inhibitor and some exemestane for the rest of your life and stay moderately jacked, healthy and happy.

Live to see retirement without needing to do dialysis. without having NAFLD. without the nerve damage from the solvents needed to properly hold DHB above 50mg/ml.

and please, stop getting your infos from people on social media.
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I get my info from multiple sources and the try to make an informed decision… a lot of the advice on this and other forums is honestly shit (definitely some needles in the haystack of course which is why I’m here)
 
nekojeeta said:
I read a lot of different resources and listen to a lot of people.. Todd Lee, Joe Jeffreys, and Jewett are all on the better end of resources albeit I don’t blindly trust anything they say
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After watching a regrettable number of his videos, and a careful, AI-assisted analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Todd Lee is a clown in every possible aspect -- including the way that regular human-sized shoes comically flop around when he walks on his teeny, tiny hobbit feet.

I'm not claiming he's wrong about everything he says. He's probably no worse than a random coin flip. But of the 50% of questions for which his coin lands on the correct side, he assiduously strips the topic of all nuance and context. So he might as well be wrong, because he's not usefully right.

Big Masteron really ought to disavow all association with him. Bad for business.
 
nekojeeta said:
Not at all… I’ve always leaned towards the MastE, but wanted to better understand the DHB option
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the one thing to understand about DHB is that there is nothing special about it. it is a cheap compound with loads of PIP and severe adverse health effects. It has very few use cases, and even with those few, other compounds are superior.
In your case, with the whole trying to stay healthy and happy schtick, it doesnt fit well.
 
nekojeeta said:
I get my info from multiple sources and the try to make an informed decision… a lot of the advice on this and other forums is honestly shit (definitely some needles in the haystack of course which is why I’m here)
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If you really do, then try and refute the points I made for you in this thread.
 
IndividualMan said:
the one thing to understand about DHB is that there is nothing special about it. it is a cheap compound with loads of PIP and severe adverse health effects. It has very few use cases, and even with those few, other compounds are superior.
In your case, with the whole trying to stay healthy and happy schtick, it doesnt fit well.
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What are its use cases? It seems like the pip can be minimized if you take a few extra steps
 
nekojeeta said:
What are its use cases? It seems like the pip can be minimized if you take a few extra steps
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What extra steps? I’ve never heard of anyone consistently minimizing pip from dhb with consistency. It’s toxic and hurts. I don’t see any good use case for it that another compound can’t do safely without pip
 
verylargeshoes said:
After watching a regrettable number of his videos, and a careful, AI-assisted analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Todd Lee is a clown in every possible aspect -- including the way that regular human-sized shoes comically flop around when he walks on his teeny, tiny hobbit feet.

I'm not claiming he's wrong about everything he says. He's probably no worse than a random coin flip. But of the 50% of questions for which his coin lands on the correct side, he assiduously strips the topic of all nuance and context. So he might as well be wrong, because he's not usefully right.

Big Masteron really ought to disavow all association with him. Bad for business.
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Any examples? Again I don’t trust anyone and instead like to get as much info from different sources to make my own decision…
 
Jeffholio5 said:
What extra steps? I’ve never heard of anyone consistently minimizing pip from dhb with consistency. It’s toxic and hurts. I don’t see any good use case for it that another compound can’t do safely without pip
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Get lower concentrations (ideally less than 100mg/ml), get it with grape seed oil, add it to your test needle to dilute it a bit, warm it up, etc
 
nekojeeta said:
What are its use cases? It seems like the pip can be minimized if you take a few extra steps
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The use case is for someone who wants, dense, grainy, dry muscle. As sort of a middle ground between tren, eq, and primo.

It really doesnt have much of a place unless youre indecisive about what you want to achieve.

If you want low side, clean muscle - pick primo. If you want dry, dense, high quality muscle with a polished look - pick mast. If you want a long, lean bulk, with high endurance - pick EQ. If you want agressive strength, mass and nutrient partitioning - pick tren.
 
ItCantBe said:
The use case is for someone who wants, dense, grainy, dry muscle. As sort of a middle ground between tren, eq, and primo.

It really doesnt have much of a place unless youre indecisive about what you want to achieve.

If you want low side, clean muscle - pick primo. If you want dry, dense, high quality muscle with a polished look - pick mast. If you want a long, lean bulk, with high endurance - pick EQ. If you want agressive strength, mass and nutrient partitioning - pick tren.
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ItCantBe said:
The use case is for someone who wants, dense, grainy, dry muscle. As sort of a middle ground between tren, eq, and primo.

It really doesnt have much of a place unless youre indecisive about what you want to achieve.

If you want low side, clean muscle - pick primo. If you want dry, dense, high quality muscle with a polished look - pick mast. If you want a long, lean bulk, with high endurance - pick EQ. If you want agressive strength, mass and nutrient partitioning - pick tren.
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Thanks - helpful as I figure out what direction that I want to ultimately go
 
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