As well ur test results might not be actually telling the full story when it comes to igf1 do to our muscles having their own igf1 and use that isn’t measured in the bloodwork your body could be getting plenty igf1 but either way I’d say 4 ius is the recommended dose for the typical gym goer using it for those purposes.
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songsofpyramids
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You don’t have a coach, or, if you do, you need to invest in a much better one because the one you have is criminally crappy. The rest of your statements make it clear you have done scant research on this at best, have very little understanding of the hormone you’re about to abuse, and little understanding of your hormone system in general. I seriously hope you aren’t about to hurt yourself being stupid but I wouldn’t be shocked. Then you act like a know it all citing ai like a dweeb to multiple people with half decades+ using the drug you’re about to try for the first time. Good luck. It’s gonna be rough for you if you’re this cocky. Hope you don’t have a pituitary adenoma.
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No new member intro on the young man. It all makes sense.
Post up a new member intro like you were asked when you joined. Not doing so will limit your gainz.
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funny how you say I “cite” chat gpt when I said nothing of the sort simply saying chat GPT could prove how ur wrong that’s how dumb u sound. So what makes u believe my coach is “criminally crappy” from what I’ve said sept for me being 20. Abuse is a strong word for someone who’s researched the drugs for almost 3 yrs educating himself based off of multiple sources, fact checking, and making sure my info is right. I find it “criminally” stupid when I see ppl so miss informed when they’ve been doing it as long as u proclaim.
I personally am very new here so I do apologize seeing as this was the first thing I replied to im not sure I saw anything about that, but in this case he’s just plain out wrong.
You aren't done growing yet. Please stop before it is too late. Don't do this.
So let’s be honest what do u think is the difference at me starting hgh at 20 compared to in three years… with all the precautions, right titrations up, having a coach to have as someone to monitor my shit, bloodwork done.
AlexDavis43
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You said you've been studying this shit for 3 years, so if you keep that pace up you'll be twice as experienced and knowledgeable in 3 more years (hopefully)
Physiologically, no big difference between starting at 20 and 23
Most of the older guys here will always tell the younger guys to hold off, start lower, etc etc
Alex gave it to you. You will be 3 years the wiser I hope.
Why mess with exogenous hormones right now? What are your goals? Do an intro so folks can learn about you and help you if you want help. Your coach doesnt care about you. Cares about $$$.
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songsofpyramids
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A strong word that’s also happens to be the correct word for what you’re about to do.
That’s extra funny considering ChatGPT was wrong about what you were claiming. There is very real potential that you are not a great responder to hgh and that 4iu could break you even as you have got really high igf1. That could mean the downstream benefit you’re hoping for could be insulin insensitivity with little upside.
You should be pretty upset with yourself then for blindly believing ChatGPT and resisting advice for people who actually have experience doing what you’re still theorizing about.
I don’t think you have a coach because of how crappy their advice is if they’ve convinced 4iu hgh is going to much for you at all. You’re getting grifted if that’s real advice you got.
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songsofpyramids
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These poor fucking kids man… I didn’t even think about how many grifting coaches are targeting kids like this. I’m glad this shit wasn’t like this when I was a kid cause i would have really fucked myself on up.
I do actually have experience with not knowledgeable absolute criminal coaches before my first ever coach decided to feed me so little fat on a cut for so long it brought my natural test scores even in a bulk down 200 points. With this coaches I’ve done the exact opposite, we talk all the time and he has a strong passion for the sport that I don’t see him wanting to put down bc of $ or fucking up some kids. with the first coach I was still knowledgeable at the time but I was in more of a state where I didn’t know how to tell him out right that I wasn’t doing his shitty macros anymore. So you guys are right there’s horrible coaches out there’s but this wasn’t my coaches “plan” I came to him at 19 bc of how shitty my test levels were and I felt from the last coach seeking someone to maybe help with with trt so I could feel better. He was the one who made that possible not to happen, and it’s not like I’m buying ts from him so he has really no benefit besides monthly income from me, the same monthly income I’ve seen tremendous progress with him so may it not be the safest thing yes but I do have goals.
Ateam2023
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STFU!, your an absolute joke, start reading and do ALOT MORE RESEARCH!! you are probably one of the dumbest "new members" to date, almost like @smartgear, we called him dumbgear, don't be that guy,,
Ateam2023
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go back to reddit you lame! you've got experienced members who know way more than you, giving you sound advice "FROM EXPERIENCE" not from some ai bs, you are on a road to bad things if you continue your nonsense behaviors, "Listen, Shut your mouth, and maybe "LEARN" from seasoned vets taking the time to actually give good advice, ,U could even chat gpt what u said and it would tell u that indeed is not correct 4ius is not equivalent to 295 and im sorry if ur using shit to get higher igf1 and u can’t but it’s either ur using fake/bad shit or ur not doing something else right
It really doesn’t work like that. Everyone’s response is different. My natural IGF1 is around 90–100 and 4iu puts me at 750+. For some guys the same dose barely moves the needle, for others it shoots up like crazy.U could even chat gpt what u said and it would tell u that indeed is not correct 4ius is not equivalent to 295 and im sorry if ur using shit to get higher igf1 and u can’t but it’s either ur using fake/bad shit or ur not doing something else right
At the end of the day, GH is really more like the cherry on top. You can make great progress without it, especially if you’re only 20. Not trying to talk you out of it. If you want to run it, go ahead, but it’s a little wild if your coach is already pushing GH at that age.
Why do you guys keep mentioning ai… I don’t use fucking ai for anything gym programming at all. What is ur obsession with taking one thing out of context to making it ur main point of argument? I find that some users as @readalot to be actually intelligent then have u over here taking away from shit he’s trying to say bc of the lack of intelligence…
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