Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

i think honestly QSC didnt get caught but exit scammed since he knew where the market was going and was just gonna take his profit.
how much could he clear in a couple weeks worth of exit scamming? why not just shut down gear sales and focus on peptides.

the money SSA is turning on the blockchain info the few addresses we have access to is kinda eye watering. QSC was even more prolific in December.
 
how much could he clear in a couple weeks worth of exit scamming? why not just shut down gear sales and focus on peptides.

the money SSA is turning on the blockchain info the few addresses we have access to is kinda eye watering. QSC was even more prolific in December.
even some people in the last month still got their orders from QSC. some got it seized.

There are some people who know the real owner of QSC(not me)
 
i’ve lost hope. and also, there are good reliable labs that have have more than filled the void.

they’d have to make crazy amends and drop prices through the basement to get me back on board.
 
There are some people who know the real owner of QSC(not me)
i believe they got popped. it happens.

shit, the top Rolex clone factory got raided last week. The “Clean” factory went down while all the competitors like VSF, BP, ZF are all still standing without issue. China is weird how they crack down on shit.
 
the last week of orders he knew he was cashing out. he even was so greedy that he asked for the reship fee upfront which I found out later is BS.

so yes fuck this guy hope Jinping has his ass locked away somewhere in the mountains where he's stuck for life
In light of posts from earlier this year, several folks who paid a day or two before the last day QSC was accepting payments did in fact receive what they had ordered from both China and US shippers.

It appears it was the clients who paid in the last 24-36 hours before they went offline (<raises hand>), clients who ordered low-/no-stock items, and clients who had open issues (seizures, unresolved missing items, lost pkgs)…those were the ones who lost out. None of that was the fault of the client of course.

Combining those two patterns…that just does not comport with an intentional/premeditated exit scam…it’s not greedy enough, right? I think QSC was truly caught off-guard by some very serious law-enforcement investigation event and tried to effectively “flush everything down the toilet”, stock and equipment, including comms**. In the context of the materials crisis that began at the end of last year…maybe they thought their opsec or bribes or whatever was stronger than it actually was?

Granted, in the long term it probably doesn’t really matter.

I can’t see how they could ever return to market under their own name or even saying “we used to be QSC” under another name without provoking additional sanctions/punitive threats from authorities, especially if they do have legitimate business in China. Assuming the stricter rules continue to be enforced. Assuming they are still free/alive.

** there’s a definitive date time at which point QSC stopped using their main WhatsApp account completely. Message sent midday on 1/8: near-normal interactions and read receipts. Message sent in wee hours of 1/9: no read receipts to this day.

I think QSC either wiped their grey market/black market comms devices…or had the devices (and maybe all their stock and equipment!) seized by authorities.

TTA
 
In light of posts from earlier this year, several folks who paid a day or two before the last day QSC was accepting payments did in fact receive what they had ordered from both China and US shippers.

It appears it was the clients who paid in the last 24-36 hours before they went offline (<raises hand>), clients who ordered low-/no-stock items, and clients who had open issues (seizures, unresolved missing items, lost pkgs)…those were the ones who lost out. None of that was the fault of the client of course.

Combining those two patterns…that just does not comport with an intentional/premeditated exit scam…it’s not greedy enough, right? I think QSC was truly caught off-guard by some very serious law-enforcement investigation event and tried to effectively “flush everything down the toilet”, stock and equipment, including comms**. In the context of the materials crisis that began at the end of last year…maybe they thought their opsec or bribes or whatever was stronger than it actually was?

Granted, in the long term it probably doesn’t really matter.

I can’t see how they could ever return to market under their own name or even saying “we used to be QSC” under another name without provoking additional sanctions/punitive threats from authorities, especially if they do have legitimate business in China. Assuming the stricter rules continue to be enforced. Assuming they are still free/alive.

** there’s a definitive date time at which point QSC stopped using their main WhatsApp account completely. Message sent midday on 1/8: near-normal interactions and read receipts. Message sent in wee hours of 1/9: no read receipts to this day.

I think QSC either wiped their grey market/black market comms devices…or had the devices (and maybe all their stock and equipment!) seized by authorities.

TTA
Stop speaking rationale arguments. That's not allowed here
 
Well dammm, Who knew @connoristiny had a twin brother !!
when I first came here I used to think, man some of their people have their shit together.

As you spend some time you find out who is retarded/lazy because they cant even read reviews.


This place is a fucking gold mine. I dont know why people just dont get their fucking pick axe and start digging.
 
Combining those two patterns…that just does not comport with an intentional/premeditated exit scam…
QSC was poised for what could have been an absolutely epic exit scam. they could have continued to take orders for a month before the jig was up. heck, we still have people stumbling in here wondering why Tracey isn’t answering emails.

i get the frustration from those who got burnt. but it’s silly to think they planned their exit scam…to the tune of maybe 15-20 orders.
 
for all you dick riders where is the money then?

crypto is easily tracked. get the dicks out of your mouths and track down where the money ended up if you're all so sure

someone pay ZachXBT on twitter to do the analysis and he will find these guys

I have to say I bought last when he did the Testosterone apocalypse promo and I received it in 2 weeks it was in November I think when all the scaremongering was already in place.

I am sorry for who has been scammed but I can't say anything bad about qsc as I am still using their Sustanon which I paid so little it was 45 bucks per 10 bottles, insane prices.

Should have bought way more but I had other priorities in life.
 
Not expensive enough. Gotta draw the line or we all race to the bottom. Oh yeah, nevermind.
I understand but I can't complain as it is Sustanon, it works and gives me zero pip.

Why would I want to pay 30 euros for 1 bottle of test?

Like this local brewers aren't buying their raws from China anyways
 
I understand but I can't complain as it is Sustanon, it works and gives me zero pip.

Why would I want to pay 30 euros for 1 bottle of test?

Like this local brewers aren't buying their raws from China anyways
Sincerely, let me think on this.
Raws from China, sure. We should also think about oil quality, excipients, floaters, etc. Also, vendors actions and integrity.

I appreciate your perspective. Glad you are satisfied with your purchase.
 
Sincerely, let me think on this.
Raws from China, sure. We should also think about oil quality, excipients, floaters, etc. Also, vendors actions and integrity.

I appreciate your perspective. Glad you are satisfied with your purchase.
I truly understand where you are coming from with this but to me this sound very similar to the argument that Zara, Mango, Armani and others are trying to force down people troaths about not buying clothes from Shein or Temu because they are "Unethical" when last I checked my originals and "ethical" Armani t-shirts were manufactured in Cambodia
, Vietnam and Sri Lanka all countries well knows for their labour laws and ethics.
Sure.
No, sounds like some are upset with others for buying the same thing for cheap.

Oh they can cry me a river.

They don't pay my bills. That simple.

I wish you a wonderful evening:)
 
I truly understand where you are coming from with this but to me this sound very similar to the argument that Zara, Mango, Armani and others are trying to force down people troaths about not buying clothes from Shein or Temu because they are "Unethical" when last I checked my originals and "ethical" Armani t-shirts were manufactured in Cambodia
, Vietnam and Sri Lanka all countries well knows for their labour laws and ethics.
Sure.
No, sounds like some are upset with others for buying the same thing for cheap.

Oh they can cry me a river.

They don't pay my bills. That simple.

I wish you a wonderful evening:)
You too Brother. In my case I try to support small "business" owners in my country at least for the product finishing. ;)
 
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