Reta Microdosing (<1.5mg) to improve lipids?

[Banana Joe]

I had already asked here, but it sadly didn't get any replies.

How many of you guys are taking microdoses of Reta (<1.5mg?) mainly to improve HDL/LDL?
I have seen quite a few people on YT making similar claims, but Big Paul is the first one that provided actual numbers.

Other benefits should be:
- improved insulin sensitivity (might be even a given)
- reduced visceral and liver fat via glucagon receptor signaling


I always had bad HDL/LDL (hereditary) and have started taking 0.2mg e2d of Reta just recently. So far I feel no reduction in appetite, which is critical for me, as I have become a terrible eater over the years. If I feel no ill effects, I might up the dose to 0.3mg e2d.
Haven't gotten a new blood panel as my diet is a bit terrible atm, and I need to fix that first to get any meaningful data.

 

[Nidus]

I wouldnt expect much from 1.5mg and below, studies were mostly done at 2-4mg and upwards

If you are worried about Lipids, look into Ezemtib, Pitavastatin, Bempoic Acid and L-Carnitine

 

[pewex]

I don't think Reta does much at 1.5mg. As usual, influencers are blowing it out of proportion. Paul is just cruising and eating like a normal person right now, so comparing his lipids to when he was full on blasting isn’t really fair.

I’ve been taking 10mg of Cardarine daily and my lipids are the best they’ve ever been.

 

[Ghoul]

Bro you must get those lipids under control. It's easy.

That and BP are the two silent killers that disable and kill most people.

I'm a huge advocate of GLPs, but at micro doses you won't get anywhere near the lipid improvement you need.

Pitavastatin and ezetimibe, together in one tiny pill if you prefer, almost certainty with no sides, will provide a 50-60% drop in LDL, the lipid that matters most, and a 10% boost in HDL levels and more importantly, APO-I, which makes HDL work better at clearing existing plaque.

The sooner you do this the lower your lifetime risk of cardiovascular disease wrecking your life.

 

[Nidus]

Bro you must get those lipids under control. It's easy.

That and BP are the two silent killers that disable and kill most people.

I'm a huge advocate of GLPs, but at micro doses you won't get anywhere near the lipid improvement you need.

Pitavastatin and ezetimibe, together in one tiny pill if you prefer, almost certainty with no sides, will provide a 50-60% drop in LDL, the lipid that matters most, and a 10% boost in HDL levels and more importantly, APO-I, which makes HDL work better at clearing existing plaque.

The sooner you do this the lower your lifetime risk of cardiovascular disease wrecking your life.

Add blood sugar to the list of silent killers and i am with you

Plus there is also medication in trial specifically to target apoB

 

[Banana Joe]

I wouldnt expect much from 1.5mg and below, studies were mostly done at 2-4mg and upwards

If you are worried about Lipids, look into Ezemtib, Pitavastatin, Bempoic Acid and L-Carnitine

But those studies were done on fat people. Maybe one or two on GenPop, but AFAIK there have been no studies on people that workout daily, have a healthy regimented diet etc. that take gear on top of that.

I had already looked at a either Ezemtib alone, or in combination with a dose of 10-20mg of Pravastatin, which was the result of my AI research as being best for athletes. If Pitavastatin will yield to more favourable results, I am fine with it.
I will take a closer look at the other drugs you mentioned. Thanks.

I don't think Reta does much at 1.5mg. As usual, influencers are blowing it out of proportion. Paul is just cruising and eating like a normal person right now, so comparing his lipids to when he was full on blasting isn’t really fair.

I’ve been taking 10mg of Cardarine daily and my lipids are the best they’ve ever been.

I am just cruising (well, 400mg if you wanna still call that a cruise) as well and my HDL/LDL was AFAIR around 30/150. I didn't order my fishoil for quite a while but then it would have been maybe 38/130 at best, if my diet was very on point on top of that.
Don't quote me on this, but Paul mentions that he is off since almost a year, and the improvements have only been seen once he introduced the Reta.
So, if Paul's data is credible, and I assume that to be true, then his case would align rather closely with mine.

If I blast, which I haven't done in 2y, my 8-10w blasts are like of 1g of rather mild compounds like Test, Primo, Mast, Bolde, and just a therapeutic dose of Tren (<100mg).

 

[Ghoul]

But those studies were done on fat people. Maybe one or two on GenPop, but AFAIK there have been no studies on people that workout daily, have a healthy regimented diet etc. that take gear on top of that.

I had already looked at a either Ezemtib alone, or in combination with a dose of 10-20mg of Pravastatin (best for athletes according to AI research).
I will take a closer look at the other drugs you mentioned. Thanks.


I am just cruising (well, 400mg) as well and my HDL/LDL was AFAIR around 30/150. I didnt order my fishoil for quite a while but then it would have been maybe 35/135 at best, if my diet was very on point on top of that.
Don't quote me on this, but he mentions that he is off since almost a year, and the improvements have only been seen once he introduced the Reta.
So if Paul's data is credible, and I assume that to be true, then his case would align rather closely with mine.
If I blast , which I haven't done in 2y, my doses are like 8-10w of 1g of rather mild compounds like Test, Primo, Mast, Bolde, and just a therapeutic dose of Tren (<100mg).

Even if you could benefit from the lipid improvement of max dose Reta, it won't come anywhere close to what Pitavastatin, Ezetimebe. Bempedoic Acid. and/OR a PCSK9 inhibitor would do.

If you're in the US and have familial hypercholestoremia you could probably qualify for Repatha and demolish lipids with one injector pen shot a month.

 

[madcap71]

Reta lowered my LDL by 30% on my recent bloodwork. Did nothing to my HDL but I've been smashing primo the last year and recently had been having anavar pre-workout

 

[Banana Joe]

Reta lowered my LDL by 30% on my recent bloodwork. Did nothing to my HDL but I've been smashing primo the last year and recently had been having anavar pre-workout

Well, that seems to confirm the hypothesis that Reta can be used for that purpose.
What was your dose though?

Am I right to assume, that based on you saying that you blasted Primo, I assume you weren't fat and that you eat a BB style diet?

 

[madcap71]

Well, that seems to confirm the hypothesis that Reta can be used for that purpose.
What was your dose though?

Am I right to assume, that based on you saying that you blasted Primo, I assume you weren't fat and that you eat a BB style diet?

I'm a bodybuilder and have been "living the lifestyle" clean diet and all for 5 years. The only time I got fat was over 2 years ago at the end of my mass gain.

My latest bloods were pulled 6 weeks after my last show, the one in comparing it too was at the end of a 12 week cruise.

My Reta dose was at 2mg every 5 days at the time of pulling bloods. Now I'm on 3mg a week (essentially the same)

 

[Banana Joe]

So post show (including compounds used for the show...) LDL was better than after the 12 week cruise? Interesting.

Do you feel the appetite suppression at 2/3mg? Being post-show, I assume you also used it to control hunger, to stay lean and not binge?
Appetite suppression is really the last thing I need atm, of course I would like to still maximise Reta's other effects, if somehow possible.

 

[madcap71]

So post show (including compounds used for the show...) LDL was better than after the 12 week cruise? Interesting.

Do you feel the appetite suppression at 2/3mg? Being post-show, I assume you also used it to control hunger, to stay lean and not binge?
Appetite suppression is really the last thing I need atm, of course I would like to still maximise Reta's other effects, if somehow possible.

I've been on a cruise dose those 6 weeks so the androgenic load for both tests were probably the same, as was bodyweight.

The appetite suppression for me is mild, just how I like it. I still have to get my calories down me to maintain size, but I'm able to get all my food in and nothing more. I started taking Reta because the post show hunger was getting too much and I was in danger of fucking up my rebound, when I am due to start prep again, imminently.

I can eat but my day doesn't revolve around food like it did before. I often forget to eat and have to play catch-up

 

[KOArtist]

Pitavastatin and ezetimibe, together in one tiny pill if you prefer

Is there a certain name for the combo version?

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

I had already asked here, but it sadly didn't get any replies.

How many of you guys are taking microdoses of Reta (<1.5mg?) mainly to improve HDL/LDL?
I have seen quite a few people on YT making similar claims, but Big Paul is the first one that provided actual numbers.

Other benefits should be:
- improved insulin sensitivity (might be even a given)
- reduced visceral and liver fat via glucagon receptor signaling


I always had bad HDL/LDL (hereditary) and have started taking 0.2mg e2d of Reta just recently. So far I feel no reduction in appetite, which is critical for me, as I have become a terrible eater over the years. If I feel no ill effects, I might up the dose to 0.3mg e2d.
Haven't gotten a new blood panel as my diet is a bit terrible atm, and I need to fix that first to get any meaningful data.

Same boat for me. Went off aas 2 or 3 years ago cuz I'm mid 50's and even 200mg of test cyp still had lipids wrecked. On BP meds, max statin, diuretic and even eating smart and low cal didn't make a difference. Went on sema a few months and graduated to tirz and then reta. Dropped 25lbs and triglycerides, hdl and ldl along with glucose and a1c were on point finally.... didn't microdose I ended up pinning 6mg of reta along with 1mg of sema every 6 days...

Glp1s are dirt cheap for now and a middle of the road dose won't negate trt or cycle gains in fact as soon as I started a 200/200 tren/test for summer went up 12lbs and didn't wanna. Took an ai as well. I'd say pin it and if anything may keep ur bloods in check. Handful of us here are on glp1 forum with a nice vendor section where shits constantly janoshiked (tested for purity, weight and often contaminants) I'd titrate up slow and end up at 4 or 5 mg reta. Max is 8-12mg or work up with tirz and pin 4mg twice a week, max is 15mg but we have folks doing 20mg every 5 or 6 days. ( not ideal for pancreas). Good luck.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

But those studies were done on fat people. Maybe one or two on GenPop, but AFAIK there have been no studies on people that workout daily, have a healthy regimented diet etc. that take gear on top of that.

I had already looked at a either Ezemtib alone, or in combination with a dose of 10-20mg of Pravastatin, which was the result of my AI research as being best for athletes. If Pitavastatin will yield to more favourable results, I am fine with it.
I will take a closer look at the other drugs you mentioned. Thanks.


I am just cruising (well, 400mg if you wanna still call that a cruise) as well and my HDL/LDL was AFAIR around 30/150. I didn't order my fishoil for quite a while but then it would have been maybe 38/130 at best, if my diet was very on point on top of that.
Don't quote me on this, but Paul mentions that he is off since almost a year, and the improvements have only been seen once he introduced the Reta.
So, if Paul's data is credible, and I assume that to be true, then his case would align rather closely with mine.

If I blast, which I haven't done in 2y, my 8-10w blasts are like of 1g of rather mild compounds like Test, Primo, Mast, Bolde, and just a therapeutic dose of Tren (<100mg).

Christ that explains ur bloods.... not about fat. Diabetics need it too. Glp1's are about the only thing to help you and it will fix about everything but prolly not at a gram. Honestly retas a miracle and @BIG Paul if the same dude gave me tren advice years ago and I took it as a newbie where a veteran took the time to advise me...

 

[Banana Joe]

....Went on ... reta. Dropped 25lbs and triglycerides, hdl and ldl along with glucose and a1c were on point finally.... didn't microdose I ended up pinning 6mg of reta along with 1mg of sema every 6 days...

Glp1s are dirt cheap for now and a middle of the road dose won't negate trt or cycle gains in fact as soon as I started a 200/200 tren/test for summer went up 12lbs and didn't wanna. Took an ai as well. I'd say pin it and if anything may keep ur bloods in check. ...Good luck.

Interesting, thanks for the report. You mention having lost 25lbs, I got visible abs and was measured with a caliper at 11% BF when I was probably as or less lean than I am now. I still look fat though, and couldn't believe the caliper results.
I am slowly loosing fat since I got back on Test 3.5y ago. I had a bit of fat gain inbetween, due to me having been sick or or moving, or whatever.
I never attempted to diet, but had quite a few times where I haven't been able to properly eat (for various reasons), where I lost a bigger chunk of fat, apart from that it is just a slow but steady loss of fat, after having been off any dose of Test for over a decade.
Therefore fat loss it not an expected outcome except potentially loosing visceral and liver fat from glucagon action of Reta.

Christ that explains ur bloods.... not about fat. Diabetics need it too. Glp1's are about the only thing to help you and it will fix about everything but prolly not at a gram.

Like I said, it is hereditary, of course I won't try to kid anyone that my gear use does make it any better. But I had bad lipids even as a kid...

I will stay at my dose of 0.7mg for a little longer and then probably up to 1mg. Like I said, any appetitite suppression would fuck me up. I could do without food the entire day, but then would go hypo and fall into a coma...

 

[juicybanana69]

I changed nothing in my eating habits except the removal of Citrus Bergamot and addition of 2-2.3mg of Reta per week for 2 months. Dosed 1.5mg every 5 days or 1mg every 3-4 days. Depends on my mood.

2 month before and after:

On 250mg Test, 10mg Ezetimibe, 1g Jarrow's Citrus Bergamot, 3g EPA+DHA:

Before HDL: 52
Before LDL: 78
Before Triglycerides: 57

On 250mg Test, 10mg Ezetimibe, 2-2.3mg Reta, 3g EPA+DHA:

After HDL: 46
After LDL: 67
After Triglycerides: 39

So yeah 2mg of Reta would be solid for keeping LDL low. Not sure how well < 1.5mg would do. My HDL dropped probably from the removal of the citrus bergamot. My LDL might have been even lower if I still kept that in too.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

I changed nothing in my eating habits except the removal of Citrus Bergamot and addition of 2-2.3mg of Reta per week for 2 months. Dosed 1.5mg every 5 days or 1mg every 3-4 days. Depends on my mood.

2 month before and after:

On 250mg Test, 10mg Ezetimibe, 1g Jarrow's Citrus Bergamot, 3g EPA+DHA:

Before HDL: 52
Before LDL: 78
Before Triglycerides: 57

On 250mg Test, 10mg Ezetimibe, 2-2.3mg Reta, 3g EPA+DHA:

After HDL: 46
After LDL: 67
After Triglycerides: 39

So yeah 2mg of Reta would be solid for keeping LDL low. Not sure how well < 1.5mg would do. My HDL dropped probably from the removal of the citrus bergamot. My LDL might have been even lower if I still kept that in too.

I'd sho ot 10mofos for triglycerides that low... so came down a nice bit. How long on the reta? I seen considerable reductions after 4 or 5 months and wondering how stellar I may be at 1 year.

 

[Ghoul]

Is there a certain name for the combo version?

PTVS DUO for Pita 4mg/Eze 10mg



I pay $4/strip of 10.

PTVS PLUS is Pita 2mg/Eze 10mg

 

[Banana Joe]

Bro you must get those lipids under control. It's easy.
....
I'm a huge advocate of GLPs, but at micro doses you won't get anywhere near the lipid improvement you need.

Pitavastatin and ezetimibe, together in one tiny pill if you prefer, almost certainty with no sides, will provide a 50-60% drop in LDL, the lipid that matters most, and a 10% boost in HDL levels and more importantly, APO-I, which makes HDL work better at clearing existing plaque.
....

Thanks, as mentioned I had already looked into ezetimibe and Pravastatin, but I don't care if Pitavastatin is better suited for me as an athlete. Haven't looked into Bempedoic Acid so far, but will.
I don't think I could qualify for that shot in EU.