Dr Todd Lee - what do you think?

[newguy2]

He doesn't home brew and he has some of the worst sources imaginable. The average meso lurker has access to better sources. WTF is vikingtropin.

Seems pretty unrealistic to have a clue what his sources are. Surely there are long standing legit sources that fly under the radar/don't post about themselves on websites.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Seems pretty unrealistic to have a clue what his sources are. Surely there are long standing legit sources that fly under the radar/don't post about themselves on websites.

If you watch his lives, he frequently alludes to his sources.

Most of these influencers WANT you to know their sources. Vig Steve has an entire "sources" section on his personal web site. Go check it out.

There are long standing sources that do fly under the radar. Closed TGs, and closed email only sources. They are something common in IFBB circles. Ive even been able to use one. Guess what? It was just some home brewer who knows the right people and overcharges. Ive had better quality by a mile from open sources from SST and here. Why? In my opinion, "public" accountability.

 

[readalot]

If you watch his lives, he frequently alludes to his sources.

Most of these influencers WANT you to know their sources. Vig Steve has an entire "sources" section on his personal web site. Go check it out.

There are long standing sources that do fly under the radar. Closed TGs, and closed email only sources. They are something common in IFBB circles. Ive even been able to use one. Guess what? It was just some home brewer who knows the right people and overcharges. Ive had better quality by a mile from open sources from SST and here. Why? In my opinion, "public" accountability.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Btw in one of his lives, right after QSC disappeared, someone superchatted him saying something about Tracy etc. He had no idea what the guy was talking about.

Not saying everyone is on meso but... come on dude.

Not only that but he was simping for TP and meditropin like it was THE BEST generics around. Im not saying its the worst, but clearly the dude doesn't have alot of source knowledge.

 

[newguy2]

If you watch his lives, he frequently alludes to his sources.

Most of these influencers WANT you to know their sources. Vig Steve has an entire "sources" section on his personal web site. Go check it out.

There are long standing sources that do fly under the radar. Closed TGs, and closed email only sources. They are something common in IFBB circles. Ive even been able to use one. Guess what? It was just some home brewer who knows the right people and overcharges. Ive had better quality by a mile from open sources from SST and here. Why? In my opinion, "public" accountability.

I agree the accountability is good. I wasn't trying to argue that there was something inherently better in a low profile source. Just that they could certainly be as good as a source on here or SST.

 

[dick_starbuck]

I agree the accountability is good. I wasn't trying to argue that there was something inherently better in a low profile source. Just that they could certainly be as good as a source on here or SST.

I understand your point. Im just saying, just because the dude has a following, doesn't mean he isnt buying from sources on promuscle...

 

[newguy2]

I understand your point. Im just saying, just because the dude has a following, doesn't mean he isnt buying from sources on promuscle...

Lol true. And man that site is atrocious. Instant red flag.

 

[readalot]

if the people who claim masteron isn't anabolic

Practically speaking, it ain't. Wasn't impressed with up to 420 mg/week Mast E alongside 80 mg/wk Test C. It may enable you to run more Test than you otherwise would. I bumped up the Test C to 420 along with the 420 Mast and big difference. Havent been able to run that much Test on its own without sides. Thats definitely a plus. Watch your prostate if older. Sometimes better to not be able to run more Test.

 

[eery]

If you watch his lives, he frequently alludes to his sources.

Most of these influencers WANT you to know their sources. Vig Steve has an entire "sources" section on his personal web site. Go check it out.

There are long standing sources that do fly under the radar. Closed TGs, and closed email only sources. They are something common in IFBB circles. Ive even been able to use one. Guess what? It was just some home brewer who knows the right people and overcharges. Ive had better quality by a mile from open sources from SST and here. Why? In my opinion, "public" accountability.

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I understand your point. Im just saying, just because the dude has a following, doesn't mean he isnt buying from sources on promuscle...

yeah, even people like nick walker uses chase irons peptides. Its not any secret exclusive ifbb pro sources. No matter what naps or whoever claims, lol.

 

[Eddie.]

Masteron being shitty or not for adding mass, I'll gladly take an unlimited supply. It makes me feel damn good and doesn't touch bloodwork.

I'm depressed I can't buy this shit anymore.

I hear you, unfortunately 200-500mg per week and i haven't noticed any mood or libido improvements but if i got that euphoria many guys notice ofc i'd be depressed too lol. It's a shame because you can add it in every cycle without really affecting anything else.

 

[bananafeet]

I wanted to race to Masteron's defense and say that when I ran it I had at least more free test and lower SHBG.

But after looking at my labs they were almost identical to when I ran testosterone only... No impact on SHBG, estrogen or free T.

So yeah.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Btw in one of his lives, right after QSC disappeared, someone superchatted him saying something about Tracy etc. He had no idea what the guy was talking about.

Not saying everyone is on meso but... come on dude.

Not only that but he was simping for TP and meditropin like it was THE BEST generics around. Im not saying its the worst, but clearly the dude doesn't have alot of source knowledge.

I remember that lol. Who's Tracy!?

 

[Mick]

Idk how people grow on mast. I’m using 560mg test prop. 140mg mast e. 6iu gh. And I swear the mast makes me smaller. For sure lose weight. I def don’t know how ppl get anabolic from it. Idk if it actually helps with estrogen or not, seems like it does, but not on bloodwork lol. Idk. I think primo seem to be a better choice for actual tissue gains. But to much primo def crashes my estrogen lol. Can you get crashed estrogen symptoms from mast? Also does mast actually keep estrogen sides under control if it doesn’t lower estrogen on paper. I know it’s a little diff for everyone one that’s why I’m currently comparing using test and mast with test and primo.

 

[watermanisalreadyinuse]

Tend to stay away from people who speak in absolutes

 

[xrayphoton13]

Idk how people grow on mast. I’m using 560mg test prop. 140mg mast e. 6iu gh. And I swear the mast makes me smaller. For sure lose weight. I def don’t know how ppl get anabolic from it. Idk if it actually helps with estrogen or not, seems like it does, but not on bloodwork lol. Idk. I think primo seem to be a better choice for actual tissue gains. But to much primo def crashes my estrogen lol. Can you get crashed estrogen symptoms from mast? Also does mast actually keep estrogen sides under control if it doesn’t lower estrogen on paper. I know it’s a little diff for everyone one that’s why I’m currently comparing using test and mast with test and primo.

Well you're only running 140mg mast. Try 1400mg mast and then see if it's anabolic. I don't think you'd see much. It's just not a very strong anabolic. But I could be wrong.
Yes you can get crashed estrogen symptoms from mast even though it doesn't actually lower e2

 

[Mick]

Well you're only running 140mg mast. Try 1400mg mast and then see if it's anabolic. I don't think you'd see much. It's just not a very strong anabolic. But I could be wrong.
Yes you can get crashed estrogen symptoms from mast even though it doesn't actually lower e2

1400 makes me ill just thinking about it. I hear you though. This thread is more about Todd lees protocol. I was just searching the thread and looking for some more info on masteron in general. Because I just traded it out for primo to see how I felt. So it must block estrogen similar to like a nolvadex? Not going to lie I have real mixed feelings about about this compound lol.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Not to derail the clowning of Dr Todd Lee MD, but...

Dr Dean St. Mart PhD just posted a video of him doing a leg press with the caption saying something like "gear won't make you stronger"

ummm ok doc

 

[dick_starbuck]

Not to derail the clowning of Dr Todd Lee MD, but...

Dr Dean St. Mart PhD just posted a video of him doing a leg press with the caption saying something like "gear won't make you stronger"

ummm ok doc

I mean... it definitely does though lol.

Hes usually good but sometimes...

I think hes just trying to dissuade younger people from relying on drugs and hoping they will just try and get stronger by pushing heavier weights instead of larger syringes.

 

[godsgifttoearth]

Idk how people grow on mast. I’m using 560mg test prop. 140mg mast e. 6iu gh. And I swear the mast makes me smaller. For sure lose weight. I def don’t know how ppl get anabolic from it. Idk if it actually helps with estrogen or not, seems like it does, but not on bloodwork lol. Idk. I think primo seem to be a better choice for actual tissue gains. But to much primo def crashes my estrogen lol. Can you get crashed estrogen symptoms from mast? Also does mast actually keep estrogen sides under control if it doesn’t lower estrogen on paper. I know it’s a little diff for everyone one that’s why I’m currently comparing using test and mast with test and primo.

it will make you drop water. you will look and weigh less. that doesn't mean you are smaller, just in the same way Dbol puffing someone up with a load of water doesn't mean they gained actual muscle.

every single bit of receptor, animal, or human clinical evidence shows its anabolic.

 

[readalot]

human

I think I am human. Who knows. My experience up to 420 mg/week says it sucked. No bad mental effects though. Does seem to allow higher Test amounts. Dr. Todd, thanks anyway.

On to the tren for the win? I am thinking 70 to 100 mg/week. Skipping the Primo for now.

Disclaimer: my skeletal muscle receptors seem to suck pretty bad but my prostate receptors are incredible.