I just reconstituted a new vial and experienced this, caught me off guard there’s a chance I ruined this vial as well because the BAC shot straight in didn’t go down the wall slowly. But I think something was definitely up with the last vial because there was no vacuum like this whatsoever. I’m letting this vial sit for 30 ish minutes to fully reconstitute and then i’ll draw from it. I am seeing some small bubbles at the top of the vial, is that an issue?
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I was drawing very slowly and it wasn't a bubble that would just come out easily, I had to push out the entirety of the syringe and then it came out at the end, white and thick
dick_starbuck
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Its foam. If you are drawing and there is enough "space" between the top of the liquid and the needle end of ghe syringe, thats vacuum and youre drawing too quickly. Especially if youre using a small gage needle. Its going to cause foam.
This looks exactly like what happens when I do that exact thing. It "feels different" when pushing it out also. This happens with every peptide, every GH, ive ever used.
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i see… ghoul made it sound like it was a concerning issue. so you’re saying position the needle as close as possible to the top (bottom) of the vial where it’s air and that should help prevent this?
dick_starbuck
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Bro I'm talking about inside the syringe lol.
If youre drawing liquid AND there is space in the syringe between the level of liquid in the syringe and the needle end of the syringe, youre creating vacuum and drawing too quickly. Youre going to create foam. If you shoot it back into the vial the air bubbles will shoot to the top and form a layer of foam. Then dissolve.
Unless im misinterpreting this picture, this is what's going on, and youre just being a hypocrondriac. Shoot it back in the vial and it will be very clear if its foam or not.
Ghoul
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I'm not talking about the foam at the top. It's the cloudiness below the foam in the liquid. Did that go clear? It shouldn't sit there clouded by bubbles for more than a minute. before they collect at one end or the other.
These are clouded
oh my concern was about the foam at the top this entire time. there is no cloudiness in the liquid below at all, that is clear now
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Spaceman Spiff
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post clearly states that it’s my first time and other people already told me that it’s bubbles i’ve already injected ur not adding anything with ur reply
Spaceman Spiff
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Look here Jack ass. You see the one who can't tell what's should be common sense.
You are trying to tell us it's not air bubbles and it clearly is
Cut the smart ass response when you ass dumb fuckin questions.
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CarvinDC125
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CarvinDC125
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A is clouded?
Most GH I’ve ever gotten looks like A. The only kit I’ve ever had that came out crystal clear was some GH I got from platinum.
I read somewhere that very slight cloudiness is ok. Especially if you are using less than 1ml BAC water.
It’s when it looks like B or worse it a problem, or even if it’s crystal clear if floaters form it’s a problem.
Ghoul
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What do you think the particles in the "cloud" are?
Not being combative, I'm curious what you think they are, if you have any idea or even just a guess.
CarvinDC125
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Could be anything. Broken rHGH, filled that isn’t reconstituting correctly, any kind of contaminant. It’s hard to know and that’s why if it’s more cloudy than A I just toss it. I don’t even filter it. I toss it
CarvinDC125
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This is platinum GH First and last kit probably. I love it and will miss it! lol. The vial pictured is Platinums 140iu kit they have. It’s very expensive for me at $400.00 per kit I definitely splurged on it. But I can literally see and feel the difference in this over the sigma GH I’ve used before. It’s crystal clear as you can see and so far every vial has been like this. Unfortunately I can’t afford it. So after this kit, back to Sigma I go! lol.
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hijacking this conversation, would you happen to know if it’s okay to store pre drawn syringes with hgh? i got a new job and waking up at 5 am is a struggle, trying to get a good draw without bubbles always almost makes me late. i searched and this was the only information i could find on storing in plastic syringes.
Stability of somatropin stored in plastic syringes for 28 days - PubMed
The stability of somatropin stored in two types of plastic syringes was studied. Reconstituted somatropin at high (3.33-mg/mL) and low (1.0-mg/mL) concentrations was stored in polypropylene and propylene-ethylene copolymer syringes at 2-8 degrees C for 28 days. The contents of all syringes were...
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Ghoul
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hijacking this conversation, would you happen to know if it’s okay to store pre drawn syringes with hgh? i got a new job and waking up at 5 am is a struggle, trying to get a good draw without bubbles always almost makes me late. i searched and this was the only information i could find on storing in plastic syringes.
Stability of somatropin stored in plastic syringes for 28 days - PubMed
The stability of somatropin stored in two types of plastic syringes was studied. Reconstituted somatropin at high (3.33-mg/mL) and low (1.0-mg/mL) concentrations was stored in polypropylene and propylene-ethylene copolymer syringes at 2-8 degrees C for 28 days. The contents of all syringes were...
The guidelines for predrawing any med will say no. That's best practice.
The reality is it's done by nurses on behalf of home bound patients all the time, including with insulin which is similar to rHGH stability wise.
The "harm reduction" approach is this, imo.
Limit it to a week's worth at a time.
The long term interaction with the barrel and stopper is the main concern.
By sticking with HIGH quality syringes only, I'd only trust BD or Nipro, you know for sure the rHGH w/.9% Benzyl alcohol is only coming into contact with inert surfaces (silicone coated butyl rubber stopper and medical grade polypropylene barrel) that can definately handle 7 days without leaching chemicals into the liquid. A cheap syringe may not be guaranteed to be the same, and if the
BA is in contact with raw butyl rubber in the stopper for days, chemicals will definately leach from the butyl rubber that are toxic and can damage the rHGH.
This isn't ideal, but it should be fine. One "best practice" though. Silicone droplets (and shock) cause rHGH to aggregate, losing effectiveness. Treat the filled syringes gently, to minimize the chance of knocking some loose into the solution. This would require a sharp shock, like dropping, or tapping sharply with a fingernail to remove bubbles. Just tap with the soft part of your finger if necessary.
AlexDavis43
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That study answers your question pretty directly. No?hijacking this conversation, would you happen to know if it’s okay to store pre drawn syringes with hgh? i got a new job and waking up at 5 am is a struggle, trying to get a good draw without bubbles always almost makes me late. i searched and this was the only information i could find on storing in plastic syringes.
Stability of somatropin stored in plastic syringes for 28 days - PubMed
The stability of somatropin stored in two types of plastic syringes was studied. Reconstituted somatropin at high (3.33-mg/mL) and low (1.0-mg/mL) concentrations was stored in polypropylene and propylene-ethylene copolymer syringes at 2-8 degrees C for 28 days. The contents of all syringes were...
If you didn't feel like preparing a month's worth at once you could prep 7 pins every weekend
CarvinDC125
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If I’m doing a morning cycle I will draw the night before. Store the syringe in the fridge and use it first thing in the morning. Never had an issue.hijacking this conversation, would you happen to know if it’s okay to store pre drawn syringes with hgh? i got a new job and waking up at 5 am is a struggle, trying to get a good draw without bubbles always almost makes me late. i searched and this was the only information i could find on storing in plastic syringes.
Stability of somatropin stored in plastic syringes for 28 days - PubMed
The stability of somatropin stored in two types of plastic syringes was studied. Reconstituted somatropin at high (3.33-mg/mL) and low (1.0-mg/mL) concentrations was stored in polypropylene and propylene-ethylene copolymer syringes at 2-8 degrees C for 28 days. The contents of all syringes were...
I only store one dose at a time though.
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