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[BigTomJ]

If anything we can now see that overeating can be as chemically induced

"Chemically induced" is a bit of a stretch.
"Made much easier though highly processed food options"? Yes I'll agree there.
It's far easier to overeat today then in any other point in history.

as those lacking the ability to gain stuff hence needing trt..

Trt isn't for those that struggle to gain muscle.
It's a marked, and measurable health marker that has direct ties to nearly every aspect of wellness.

Folks that used to talmbout "there's no pill for it... you need to bla bla bla" May have to take a back seat in the next 10-15 years.

Don't know what you're getting at with this bit.

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

Told these guys my package would most likely get seized because I’m pretty certain my name and or address is flagged due to the last 3 packages from multiple over the seas sources being seized In a row. They ensured me its most likely not possible, I said okay well go ahead and send it to my address again.
It was seized. Again.

 

[Middus]

may be true to a certain point.

Also some of these people never moved their ass in the gym to begin with.

The problem is folks like throwing nuance in the gutter.
It's not people's fault to think like this. We all like simple answers.
Fact: Root cause of Obesity is by calorie excess.
Fact: Calorie excess is caused by taking in too much nutrients.
Nuance: What causes people to take in or retain excess calories?
Some people it's genetics (as seen with some genetic diseases)
For some it's pure an interplay of will power and supply
For some it's chemical dependency that has wrecked the brain chemistry.
The issue is complicated by the fact that calorie intake is vital to life. I mean we are out here convincing people that Autism is caused by vaccines but struggle to understand that food can be juiced with factors that fuck up brain chemistry and affect reward centers and make folks increasingly seek out to reward those centers?
In come GLP-1s and similar class of meds that can inhibit those same chemicals and affect same reward centers, causing folks to seek less reward for them and end up consuming less calories.
Just like GLP-1 response levels varies in different people, is it that hard to think that the way food is 'juiced up' also affects people differently?
Sort of explains why many people think foreign food (european cuisine) tastes like trash..
Anyway, just thinking aloud.
Let me return to monitoring when my Mots-C will arrive and whether I will be Liberated of extra dollars courtesy import duties.

 

[Mariafitness]

Told these guys my package would most likely get seized because I’m pretty certain my name and or address is flagged due to the last 3 packages from multiple over the seas sources being seized In a row. They ensured me its most likely not possible, I said okay well go ahead and send it to my address again.
It was seized. Again.

That dosent sound like a "secure" shipping line

Are you in europe?

 

[Middus]

"Chemically induced" is a bit of a stretch.
"Made much easier though highly processed food options"? Yes I'll agree there.
It's far easier to overeat today then in any other point in history.


Trt isn't for those that struggle to gain muscle.
It's a marked, and measurable health marker that has direct ties to nearly every aspect of wellness.


Don't know what you're getting at with this bit.

What I am getting at is that generalizations are inherently laden with fallacies.
Not all eating disorders are will power
Not all people on AAS are on it because of TRT

 

[BigTomJ]

What I am getting at is that generalizations are inherently laden with fallacies.
Not all eating disorders are will power
Not all people on AAS are on it because of TRT

Never suggested all eating disorders are "will power"
I did say however that every single person with obesity can reverse their condition in its totality without the aid of GLP1s.
I never mentioned willpower.

As far as people on AAS, obviously MOST people on steroids are not because of a primary hypogonadism.
However, @Ghoul has made a habit of comparing GLP1 use to medically necessary trt.
Which is not a fair or logical comparison to make.

 

[Middus]

Never suggested all eating disorders are "will power"
I did say however that every single person with obesity can reverse their condition in its totality without the aid of GLP1s.
I never mentioned willpower.

As far as people on AAS, obviously MOST people on steroids are not because of a primary hypogonadism.
However, @Ghoul has made a habit of comparing GLP1 use to medically necessary trt.
Which is not a fair or logical comparison to make.

Well I was only clarifying what I was getting at.
Generalizations will contain logical fallacies (argument wise)
Whether it's the oft repeated 'will power will beat fork' narrative or Ghoul's 'unfair' comparisons..

 

[BigTomJ]

Well I was only clarifying what I was getting at.
Generalizations will contain logical fallacies (argument wise)
Whether it's the oft repeated 'will power will beat fork' narrative or Ghoul's 'unfair' comparisons..

Then we agree.

There's always nuance.

 

[Middus]

Nutritional epi has taught me the necessity to be flexible, as one might need to wake up one day and abandon every single thing one previously believed in, because recent findings disagree. I can't forget the first time I looked at a professor with disgust when he was taking down the dietary lipids and cardiovascular health link and how it was now safe for healthy people to eat multiple eggs..

 

[Sampei]

The problem is folks like throwing nuance in the gutter.
It's not people's fault to think like this. We all like simple answers.
Fact: Root cause of Obesity is by calorie excess.
Fact: Calorie excess is caused by taking in too much nutrients.
Nuance: What causes people to take in or retain excess calories?
Some people it's genetics (as seen with some genetic diseases)
For some it's pure an interplay of will power and supply
For some it's chemical dependency that has wrecked the brain chemistry.
The issue is complicated by the fact that calorie intake is vital to life. I mean we are out here convincing people that Autism is caused by vaccines but struggle to understand that food can be juiced with factors that fuck up brain chemistry and affect reward centers and make folks increasingly seek out to reward those centers?
In come GLP-1s and similar class of meds that can inhibit those same chemicals and affect same reward centers, causing folks to seek less reward for them and end up consuming less calories.
Just like GLP-1 response levels varies in different people, is it that hard to think that the way food is 'juiced up' also affects people differently?
Sort of explains why many people think foreign food (european cuisine) tastes like trash..
Anyway, just thinking aloud.
Let me return to monitoring when my Mots-C will arrive and whether I will be Liberated of extra dollars courtesy import duties.

Never heard anyone saying Italian food (european yeah) taste like trash xD

If a person said it must be some hillybilly redneck ghetto motherfucker

 

[BigTomJ]

Never heard anyone saying Italian food (european yeah) taste like trash xD

If a person said it must be some hillybilly redneck ghetto motherfucker

Anyone who doesn't like Italian food just has no taste.

 

[Middus]

Never heard anyone saying Italian food (european yeah) taste like trash xD

If a person said it must be some hillybilly redneck ghetto motherfucker

Trust me. This person was a pharma exec and a few people agreed. They went for an Alfasigma meeting.
I just put it down to having ridiculous expectations and (possibly not liking garlic)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

If a person said it must be some hillybilly redneck ghetto motherfucker

no way dude, even they love spaghetti

 

[hammerheart]

I used Tansy bro. I didn't get to choose the carrier.. they just sent it that way.

I got DHL tracking too via bella...

 

[AlexDavis43]

Just to confirm, SSA is on vacation through 5/5 correct?

I placed an order a week ago and got tracking today.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Never heard anyone saying Italian food (european yeah) taste like trash xD

If a person said it must be some hillybilly redneck ghetto motherfucker

Relevant:

 

[rockyraccoon]

Never heard anyone saying Italian food (european yeah) taste like trash xD

If a person said it must be some hillybilly redneck ghetto motherfucker

Must've meant UK pre-Brexit lol

 

[Hunter888]

Any1 got PIP from EQ600?

 

[Sampei]

Any1 got PIP from EQ600?

Never heard of anyone getting pip from EQ ever

 

[GruesomeZebra]

Edit: They finally responded and said to wait till the 6th b/c of Chinese holiday, so at least have a date to wait till.

Is there anyone I can contact other then Yoya. They don't seem to answer emails very well (I've asked for a full price list multiple times and they only want to give prices per compound I name first), and I received half my order (oils and tabs), and I'm still waiting on the peptide portion. Ordered 4/17 got UPS tracking 4/19 and it still is stuck on label created. I'm now going to have to end up paying tariff of some amount when I tried to order ahead of time to avoid that, but no luck I guess. Now I'd just like to make sure my order is actually on the way. How long should I wait before assuming it isn't coming at all?