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The only way to know for sure is to send it in for testing. They said they’d cover the cost, but I had to leave my location and won’t be back for another 3 weeks, so I haven’t sent it yet.
 
a) you wouldn’t assume the factory is so retarded to do the same colour code for the two very popular peps from the same category b) when you clicked on TR20 jano test on their price list it was showing you RT20 certificate instead - with the same blue colour cap as (dbl mindfuck)

The less popular stuff in their pricelist aren't tested at all.
Those items also have the same vials and cap colors.
RT and TR at same doses do have same colors.
People have received same cap colors for same dosages but different products.

They aren't retarded. They would be retarded if they had to stop manufacturing when they run low of a certain cap color.
 
yeah I know the reason I am regaining weight is because my appetite came back way more than I expected, I tought my appetite was going to adjust so that I'd have mainted a lower weight
the reason you are regaining weight is because you can't put the fork down....
 
@sigm
nooo bro, REALLYYY, it's almost like that's the whole point of using tirzepatide in the first place, to not have to be miserable to be lean.
Damn bro thanks for opening my third eye, now this bastion of truth is making ejaculate uncontrollably

You know he's one of those scrawny runts momma had to forcefeed Wonder Bread and government cheese sandwiches so he wouldn't die from malnutrition.

Nature turns off appetite when it makes a mistake to wean out the weakest in the litter.
 
@sigm

You know he's one of those scrawny runts momma had to forcefeed Wonder Bread and government cheese sandwiches so he wouldn't die from malnutrition.

Nature turns off appetite when it makes a mistake to wean out the weakest in the litter.
Everyone cannot see the other side of the coin. People who struggle to loose weight can't understand how people struggle to bulk and viceversa. the fitness industry is a cesspool because people don't have the capacity to understand not everyone's life experience is the same
 
Everyone cannot see the other side of the coin. People who struggle to loose weight can't understand how people struggle to bulk and viceversa. the fitness industry is a cesspool because people don't have the capacity to understand not everyone's life experience is the same

That level of ignorance used to be an epidemic here, which is surprising given this is a group that should understand the powerful impact hormones have influencing behavior.

At this point it's a rarity thankfully since even the most hardheaded are using a GLP for one benefit or another. Comments like his are like a Cro-Magnon dragging his knuckles into a lecture on physics.

The good news is we now know, and the evidence grows weekly, these compounds prevent and even reverse a whole host of common health issues, lowering systemic inflammation, improving insulin sensitivity , protecting the liver, arteries, heart, brain, and even countering addiction, extending lifespans significantly, even for those who need no weight loss. So as long as they stick to their attitude about GLPs, in the end it'll be a self correcting situation.
 
Everyone cannot see the other side of the coin. People who struggle to loose weight can't understand how people struggle to bulk and viceversa. the fitness industry is a cesspool because people don't have the capacity to understand not everyone's life experience is the same
I agree with you on this, only THIS.

BUT what most ppl do is justify their existence because of their past experience.
 
That level of ignorance used to be an epidemic here, which is surprising given this is a group that should understand the powerful impact hormones have influencing behavior.

At this point it's a rarity thankfully since even the most hardheaded are using a GLP for one benefit or another. Comments like his are like a Cro-Magnon dragging his knuckles into a lecture on physics.

The good news is we now know, and the evidence grows weekly, these compounds prevent and even reverse a whole host of common health issues, lowering systemic inflammation, improving insulin sensitivity , protecting the liver, arteries, heart, brain, and even countering addiction, extending lifespans significantly, even for those who need no weight loss. So as long as they stick to their attitude about GLPs, in the end it'll be a self correcting situation.
Here we go again.

Welcome back ghoul, how was your vacation?

Youre so right, how did we ever survive up until this point without the advent of GLP-1s?

Yes, GLP-1s are very effective at what they do, but lets stop pretending that those suffering in obesity are blameless.

We do not have a historic high in obesity rates because of some hormonal imbalance, we have a historically high obesity rate because we have a culture of acceptance, a consumer market of almost freely available highly palatable calorie dense foods, a decline in physical expenditure directly in line to the rise of the current tech/communications erra, and an almost complete lack of basic nutritional knowledge by genpop.

Almost nobody is disputing the usefulness of GLP-1s or faulting people for their use, they are disputing the current culture of relying on them while forgoing all of the critical lifestyle changes necessary.
This isnt unique to GLP-1s this is our current medical culture across the board, treat the symptom and prescribe the medication rather than address the root cause.

You like to equate GLP-1 use to testosterone replacement therapy.
This simply doesn't hold up to any sort of logic and is getting tiresome.
Every single person struggling with obesity, without exception, is fully capable of completely and entirely reversing their condition without GLP-1s. For those who are hypogonadal not from secondary means there is nothing they can do to correct this deficiency.

I get youre passionate about the subject, but lets try to keep the posturing and clear bias to a minimum if you want to contribute to rational logical communications.
 
That level of ignorance used to be an epidemic here, which is surprising given this is a group that should understand the powerful impact hormones have influencing behavior.
Some people seem incapable of believing that their behavior isn't just something that arises from the strength and nobility of their character. We're all biological machines, including our decision-making. There are medicines that will cause the fittest, most disciplined person to put on dozens of pounds of fat in a short period of time as a side effect. Which, yeah, is because they started not putting the fork down enough, but the interesting question is why they could before taking the drugs, but couldn't after. Those same differences, and many others, exist between people as well. It's fine to say drugs like GLP-1s aren't the best answer or whatever, but people climbing on their high horses about others' weight management issues is just shitty.
 
GLP-1's are a tool to help you out. However it is still very possible to over-eat on them. If they were the 100% magic fix and every single last person regardless of the circumstances or other life style/mental factors lost a bunch of weight the would probably cost 2-3x what they do now.
 
GLP-1's are a tool to help you out. However it is still very possible to over-eat on them. If they were the 100% magic fix and every single last person regardless of the circumstances or other life style/mental factors lost a bunch of weight the would probably cost 2-3x what they do now.
Agreed, GLP-1s are just a tool. I’ve been using Tirz since last July to help with insulin resistance - not for weight loss and honestly, I’ve tried to overeat on it more than once. Every time, my brain was like, “nah, we’re good,” or my body tapped out and said, “enjoy that nausea, genius.”

That said, I can see how someone dealing with real obesity might still manage to overeat on GLP-1s - where there’s a will (and a cheesecake), there’s a way.
 
Just to confirm, SSA is on vacation through 5/5 correct?

I have 3 packages (2 orders) in transit currently. The first is coming up on 20 calendar days, no movement on tracking. The second is split between 2 packages (peps/tabs) and is a week behind the first. This worries me since my first SSA order was received in 20 calendar days, but I know that shipping lanes and customs are backed up due to all the panic buying during April.

So far, I've only received domestic 'last mile' tracking numbers from SSA. Will reps supply CN/international tracking numbers if asked? Does anyone know why they only supply domestic tracking by default?

It was nice to get international + domestic tracking from PCT24 to see that the thing is actually moving.

Guess I'm getting nervous now that we're in a post 5/2/25 reality. And the fact there are prominent US resellers (Kimera, Modern Aminos) who's websites have gone down today.

Hoping you all can help assuage my worry, even though we're all entering the unknown now...
 
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Just to confirm, SSA is on vacation through 5/5 correct?

I have 3 packages (2 orders) in transit currently. The first is coming up on 20 calendar days, no movement on tracking. The second is split between 2 packages (peps/tabs) and is a week behind the first. This worries be bc my first SSA order was received in 20 calendar days, but I know that shipping lanes and customs are backed up due to all the panic buying during April.

So far, I've only received domestic 'last mile' tracking numbers from SSA. Will reps supply CN/international tracking numbers if asked? Does anyone know why they only supply domestic tracking by default?

It was nice to get international + domestic tracking from PCT24 to see that the thing is actually moving.

Guess I'm getting nervous now that we're in a post 5/2/25 reality. And the fact there are prominent US resellers (Kimera, Modern Aminos) who's websites have gone down today.

Hoping you all can help assuage my worry, even though we're all entering the unknown now...

Chinese side tracking is a security risk that does no one any good. It was always foolish to offer that tbh. An investigator could order a pack and immediately determine which shipping company is being used, and target them for extra scrutiny.

PCT24 won't be affected by this because only Chinese packs are no longer allowed in under the de minimus exemption and now have to go through the regular customs process.
 
Here we go again.

Welcome back ghoul, how was your vacation?

Youre so right, how did we ever survive up until this point without the advent of GLP-1s?

Yes, GLP-1s are very effective at what they do, but lets stop pretending that those suffering in obesity are blameless.

We do not have a historic high in obesity rates because of some hormonal imbalance, we have a historically high obesity rate because we have a culture of acceptance, a consumer market of almost freely available highly palatable calorie dense foods, a decline in physical expenditure directly in line to the rise of the current tech/communications erra, and an almost complete lack of basic nutritional knowledge by genpop.

Almost nobody is disputing the usefulness of GLP-1s or faulting people for their use, they are disputing the current culture of relying on them while forgoing all of the critical lifestyle changes necessary.
This isnt unique to GLP-1s this is our current medical culture across the board, treat the symptom and prescribe the medication rather than address the root cause.

You like to equate GLP-1 use to testosterone replacement therapy.
This simply doesn't hold up to any sort of logic and is getting tiresome.
Every single person struggling with obesity, without exception, is fully capable of completely and entirely reversing their condition without GLP-1s. For those who are hypogonadal not from secondary means there is nothing they can do to correct this deficiency.

I get youre passionate about the subject, but lets try to keep the posturing and clear bias to a minimum if you want to contribute to rational logical communications.
If anything we can now see that overeating can be as chemically induced as those lacking the ability to gain stuff hence needing trt..
Folks that used to talmbout "there's no pill for it... you need to bla bla bla" May have to take a back seat in the next 10-15 years.
 
If anything we can now see that overeating can be as chemically induced as those lacking the ability to gain stuff hence needing trt..
Folks that used to talmbout "there's no pill for it... you need to bla bla bla" May have to take a back seat in the next 10-15 years.
may be true to a certain point.

Also some of these people never moved their ass in the gym to begin with.
 

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