Diet breaks

[ve79]

Frequency every day, every other day, five days a week, heart rate? Do you know the calorie burn?

Weight training - is this intense, like bodybuilding? (Sorry man, to ask so much if you posted all this elsewhere)

No worries.

 

[ve79]

Frequency every day, every other day, five days a week, heart rate? Do you know the calorie burn?

Weight training - is this intense, like bodybuilding? (Sorry man, to ask so much if you posted all this elsewhere)

No worries. I was a bodybuilder so that all I know how to train

 

[malfeasance]

Lol sorry bro. 1800 calories 100g carbs 40g fat 170 200g protein. Meals consist of chicken some lean steak and pork . Carbs from rice vegetables and oats.

I have no idea how you get fats under 40 on pork, lean steak, and chicken. Are you 100% confident in your macro count? Double, triple check.

PROTEIN
Up protein by 50 grams, minimum, more if you can stomach it. <--- yes, I believe that this is important.

Breakfast use one or two eggs and the rest egg whites. Five meals, 50 grams of protein each. Count your oats (they have some protein, too).

Make damn sure about your pork and beef choices, because I cannot see 40 grams of fat being a daily total if there is pork or beef on the menu. Just doublecheck everything. Every time I have had trouble cutting it is fats that I had to remove.

FATS
Look carefully at cooking oil, butter, olive oil, and make sure everything is counted.

condiments, creamer or milk in your coffee, count everything. Every little bit counts at this level.

CARBS
Consider cycling them. If you are struggling with your diet this can help. 100 carbs daily is the same as 200, 100, 0. But you look forward to the 200 and suffer through the 0, knowing 200 is tomorrow. LOL. There are other ways to do it, too. 250, 200, 100, 100, 50, 50, 0. Whatever your mind can devise that makes it easier or cuts some carbs from your count. 250, 150, 50, 0, 0, 250, 150, 50, 0, 0, 250, 150, 50, 0, 0 (this averages only 90 grams of carbs a day, but has two days higher than what you are eating now).

CARDIO
Cardio - you did not answer about intensity or frequency, so it is hard to say. If you are doing seven days a week at 40 minutes, that is a lot. If this is three days a week, add some days. If it is low intensity, consider adding something more intense. Get the heart rate higher (just as an example, my heart rate was over 150 for most of my cardio this morning while watching a movie on my phone). Very low intensity cardio for 40 minutes may not be burning a lot.

When my wife had trouble cutting, I had her do cardio twice a day (morning and evening) for a few weeks to hit her goal by stage day. She was pissed because I was cutting back my cardio at the same time due to the progress I was making . . . lol

You can't fake the calories cut by cardio. It takes energy (measured in calories) to move a certain amount a certain distance. Your body can adjust your basal metabolic rate only so much to make up for it, and that adjustment cannot keep up with what you burn at cardio.

"I was a bodybuilder". - So please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what is different now that you can't get into the same shape you used to get into on stage? I am going to assume that when you were a bodybuilder "tirz" was not even invented yet.

You probably already know what to do. You just need to grit your teeth and do it.

 

[ve79]

Ok

I have no idea how you get fats under 40 on pork, lean steak, and chicken. Are you 100% confident in your macro count? Double, triple check.

PROTEIN
Up protein by 50 grams, minimum, more if you can stomach it. <--- yes, I believe that this is important.

Breakfast use one or two eggs and the rest egg whites. Five meals, 50 grams of protein each. Count your oats (they have some protein, too).

Make damn sure about your pork and beef choices, because I cannot see 40 grams of fat being a daily total if there is pork or beef on the menu. Just doublecheck everything. Every time I have had trouble cutting it is fats that I had to remove.

FATS
Look carefully at cooking oil, butter, olive oil, and make sure everything is counted.

condiments, creamer or milk in your coffee, count everything. Every little bit counts at this level.

CARBS
Consider cycling them. If you are struggling with your diet this can help. 100 carbs daily is the same as 200, 100, 0. But you look forward to the 200 and suffer through the 0, knowing 200 is tomorrow. LOL. There are other ways to do it, too. 250, 200, 100, 100, 50, 50, 0. Whatever your mind can devise that makes it easier or cuts some carbs from your count. 250, 150, 50, 0, 0, 250, 150, 50, 0, 0, 250, 150, 50, 0, 0 (this averages only 90 grams of carbs a day, but has two days higher than what you are eating now).

CARDIO
Cardio - you did not answer about intensity or frequency, so it is hard to say. If you are doing seven days a week at 40 minutes, that is a lot. If this is three days a week, add some days. If it is low intensity, consider adding something more intense. Get the heart rate higher (just as an example, my heart rate was over 150 for most of my cardio this morning while watching a movie on my phone). Very low intensity cardio for 40 minutes may not be burning a lot.

When my wife had trouble cutting, I had her do cardio twice a day (morning and evening) for a few weeks to hit her goal by stage day. She was pissed because I was cutting back my cardio at the same time due to the progress I was making . . . lol

You can't fake the calories cut by cardio. It takes energy (measured in calories) to move a certain amount a certain distance. Your body can adjust your basal metabolic rate only so much to make up for it, and that adjustment cannot keep up with what you burn at cardio.

"I was a bodybuilder". - So please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what is different now that you can't get into the same shape you used to get into on stage? I am going to assume that when you were a bodybuilder "tirz" was not even invented yet.

You probably already know what to do. You just need to grit your teeth and do it.

I eat pork tenderloin it's very lean . I do slow steady state cardio. The difference when I was bodybuilding was age of course but I literally killed myself to prep. I ate the same shit every day chicken and rice and oats and fish. I'm trying to find a way to look what I did but not having to kill myself

 

[explodingHeart]

Ok
I eat pork tenderloin it's very lean . I do slow steady state cardio. The difference when I was bodybuilding was age of course but I literally killed myself to prep. I ate the same shit every day chicken and rice and oats and fish. I'm trying to find a way to look what I did but not having to kill myself

Kinda sounds like you're simply a non-responder to GLPs.

 

[BigDadd7]

Kinda sounds like you're simply a non-responder to GLPs.

He's only on 5mg and lost 49 pounds. That's pretty decent results. Up the dose to quiet the food noise.

 

[ve79]

He's only on 5mg and lost 49 pounds. That's pretty decent results. Up the dose to quiet the food noise.

Yea I might of just built up a tolerance to 5mg I just used it now hopefully this should work

 

[birdland]

There are many tools that do not involve GLP’s to lose fat

Diet break
Keto/carnivore
Increase cardio or steps
Ephedrine
Thyroid labs
Intermittent fasting

 

[nullandvoid]

Your thyroid has likely revolted after being in deficit for so long. You can either bump calories for a while to recover or say "fuck you, thyroid, I'll do it myself" and directly supplement T3. You can find this out by getting labs for rT3. I am in the same situation currently. You want to supplement just enough T3 to flush out the inert form your thyroid keeps cranking out trying to reduce your metabolism.

 

[ve79]

There are many tools that do not involve GLP’s to lose fat

Diet break
Keto/carnivore
Increase cardio or steps
Ephedrine
Thyroid labs
Intermittent fasting

I tried all of them none work except diet breaks and glp1 . I had just upped.myndoae and had a shit ton of cal the last 2 days and I feel much better now hunger today but I think it's important to take sometime away from the gym also for in least a week

 

[ve79]

Your thyroid has likely revolted after being in deficit for so long. You can either bump calories for a while to recover or say "fuck you, thyroid, I'll do it myself" and directly supplement T3. You can find this out by getting labs for rT3. I am in the same situation currently. You want to supplement just enough T3 to flush out the inert form your thyroid keeps cranking out trying to reduce your metabolism.

Yea I just ate a ton of shit the past 2 days upped my glp and I feel fine but also stepping a week away from the gym also