HeatherSwanson
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Why is everyone mad at EO?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
test c does contain EO?
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malomkarom
Member
100% unnecessary risk with 99% of injectables.
There are cases for high concentration oils, but one should stick to 300mg/ml stuff, the most common long ester injectables can all easily be brewed in most carrier oils that high, even a bit higher in most cases without it. 200-250 can usually be done without any solvents even.
You just don't need to inject EO. Period. It's a strong solvent, and it's not studied enough. If you tried and didn't get a reaction, fine, more are fine with it than not, I just wouldn't want to try my luck for absolutely no benefit and a probable unknown risk.
I also wouldn't run dosages high enough to require higher concetrations even if they didn't though, so I'm biased towards harm reduction. EO is generally ... fine...ish
Dirthand
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malomkarom
Member
Which is why I had paragraph about why one shouldn't inject it. The bold on the bottom is more to balance me shitting on it as I'm on the same side as you, rather than the conclusion. EO is a bitch but not for everyone, pretty sure it's unfortunately even in some pharma stuff nowadays so the outliers though not nearly rare enough are the ones that react badly.
It's really not. Primo and Tren are the only "popular" roids that forum members couldn't consistently homebrew without solvents in just oil with E or longer esters, I've yet to see much primo in EO (other than Anabolic Empire in 50% oil/EO) and I don't think your problem is gonna be the solvent while on tren.
Sorry bout the phrasing, just woke up.
Dirthand
Member
You have to use BB which is a solvent.... I have brewed just about every steriod at all kinds of concentrations and yet to have not use some bb.. even lady cyp at 20mg/ml needs a small amount..What is your brewing history??
malomkarom
Member
You don't. There are more BB free recipes on the forum than I can count for 200+ test, deca, eq and some others.
That being said BB is 100% fine and could potentially help with crashing long term and thin the solution out, which is what the original purpose of it was back when low concetrations were the thing so whatever.
It's there for a reason, the reason is just not to dissolve the compounds.
It might crash when it's ice cold but crashing is harmless.
Dirthand
Member
You do not want your gear to crash .. thats why u se solvents, like bb.. yes you can uncrash gear if you need to. This is a stupid senseless conversation... I regret engaging, as for my gear I'll have solvents.. i guesss "if" and when you make your you can make it without and see how it goes.. I mean why would you even want to make deca at 200?
malomkarom
Member
No I don't want my gear to crash. That was not the point which you know.
Dirthand
Member
No i don't know what the point was ..its not a practical application kind of topic so like I said I regret engaging. . Sorry and hope you have a nice day.
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I am confused, you say it hasn't kicked in? What does that mean lol?
I can understand not sending for testing due to cost, etc but have you not gotten blood work with a testosterone test to see your serum levels? Thats generally a super easy and cheap way to atleast see if the test is legit, and your estrogen might give some indication of the eq if you arent on an AIa also.
And what is the suspicion about the EO? I do think it is lied about by vendors on here, but what made you think it had it exactly?
knucklesamich
Member
I was kind of thinking the same thing, "hasn't kicked in"? Hhhmm, waiting for blood serum levels to peak? IDK, I can't really "feel" Test, even at high levels if that's what he means. Certain compounds have evidence of it being real vs. faked. Dbol, for instance, I don't notice a difference in mood or anything, but that water retention comes in at about a pound a day for me up to about 10 lbs and then it plateaus. I think OP is using EQ at a low dose to combat estrogen, but he won't know if it's real unless he has anxiety, but damn, I can't see that happening, it's such a low dose.
knucklesamich
Member
Bah! Your first cycle? I wish you had consulted the folks here first. First cycle should be a Test only one. Not that this cycle is horrible or anything, EQ is a good compound IMO (some like it, some don't), and it'll keep estrogen from getting out of control. It's nice to get an idea how one's system reacts to Test only though, to see how your body handles and reacts to it.
You 'probably' aren't going to feel these compounds. Even at twice the dose of Test, you may not feel anything (not suggesting you do that)--maybe a sense of well being, but not some kind of high or euphoria. You 'may' get a little anxiety from the EQ, it does that to some folks, but it's a pretty low dose so maybe not.
If I may, how old are you?
im 21 and im not having any mental sides at the moment.Seems that my e2 is in a good spot
Dirthand
Member
Im not surprised, all the Chinese sources selling gear are only salesmen. They couldn't be able to tell the difference between winstrol and dblol except the price. You can bet the whole er is manufacturing thr oils over there is doing it one way... and that is whatever is the cheapest way. This is only going to get worse as the competition on where these sources can dropship from are narrow.. I know that i personally do not handle high amounts of Ethyl oleate well as I tried using it as a carrier oil. I have a different opinion than most on using low amounts of solvents than most but if your making shit for the masses i do say you should be safe and not use ingredients that even a small %of people react poorly to. Having these in your gear is the chan you take buying cheap. Chinese oils.
any source do u trust here with mct oils?
Dirthand
Member
I make my own but there is a couple of domestic sources that are not hard to find that I would use there oil for sure...
i wrote you in private
