You don't understand how that would be?
You don't recognize the difference in the scale of the operations and OPSEC?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic
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You don't recognize the difference in the scale of the operations and OPSEC?
I'll repeat what I received by DM (asked for permission to share). I don't talk to this dude anymore but that doesn't mean he wasn't spot on.
Nov 27, 2024
"I hate QSC. It goes against everything that MESO once stood for. The customer service is apparently zero. They are “the most tested source” but all of those tests are meaningless. The OPSEC is best described as reckless abandon. They’re too big and will get busted - I’m surprised they’ve lasted this long. Their thread is filled with herd-speak and fanbois, many of the members ONLY post within that thread. The entire operation is dangerous. The fact that gear sold in multi-use sealed vials contains floaters so often that customers just settle for refiltering the gear is insane.
My goal is in-line with yours. We are not drug addicts. We do this as part of a healthy active and productive lifestyle. Cleaning it up may one day erase the druggy stigma leading to acceptance and decriminalization."
Nov 27, 2024
"I hate QSC. It goes against everything that MESO once stood for. The customer service is apparently zero. They are “the most tested source” but all of those tests are meaningless. The OPSEC is best described as reckless abandon. They’re too big and will get busted - I’m surprised they’ve lasted this long. Their thread is filled with herd-speak and fanbois, many of the members ONLY post within that thread. The entire operation is dangerous. The fact that gear sold in multi-use sealed vials contains floaters so often that customers just settle for refiltering the gear is insane.
My goal is in-line with yours. We are not drug addicts. We do this as part of a healthy active and productive lifestyle. Cleaning it up may one day erase the druggy stigma leading to acceptance and decriminalization."
Swolemates365
Member
That’s what mean, if Q is Really a legit company in China then I would think they would be able to get their crew in and fix what needed fixed or hire who they needed even temporarily. Drop the sales of AAS and only run Peptides like they suggested they would start doing. Or at min if they we’re going to come back and know they can’t for a bit, refund those who needed and let them re order once operational again. You may see things in a different view than me and may have more knowledge in the area than I. So yes I’m a bit more confused then you.
curveball2025
Member
He can buy where he wants to, and so can I.
Godspeed.
BigBen?
I'll keep the identity privileged as is proper. I only asked for permission to share. Not attribution.
I hear it's the prison diet they have for AAS dealers in China, gotta hit them where it hurts. Zero protein.
RaddishPork
Member
Honestly I'm not too upset about all this happening. Forced me to branch out and find some other good sources. Also pushed me to start doing research and get the ball rolling on homebrewing.
QSC was like Disneyland for me when I was broke and new to gear. Went from driving 45 minutes to buy $40 vials from a friend IRL to treating this shit like Amazon. Buying gear I had no intention of using.
After being around the lifestyle for a bit longer I can understand the old heads hate for QSC. Don't get me wrong, I fucking love an $8 vial of test, but this spiraled out of control quickly and all the newbies coming in from Reddit or GLP soccer moms really fucked up the flow of things. I gave them benefit of the doubt for a very long time on the floaters and stoppers but couldn't defend them anymore. It's just a "you get what you paid for" scenario and i PERSONALLY never had an issue with either, but I get why we don't want this to become the standard as a community.
The entire underground is a dumpster fire...... QSC is a coin-flip (assuming they truly come back), HYB recently had some testing come back super underdosed (don't recall if it was them who also said they weren't shipping to the U.S. anymore), GA (I don't even know what to say about them), SSA is another toss-up........
Basically, Stan & Opti for us U.S. bros..... (I don't throw Axle in the mix because every other week they want to burn that thread down too lol)....
SCARY TIMES................
Basically, Stan & Opti for us U.S. bros..... (I don't throw Axle in the mix because every other week they want to burn that thread down too lol)....
SCARY TIMES................
AlmightyAlpha
Member
I swear to God if someone says OPSEC one more time.....
Also, people crying about a 200 dollar loss is insane lol were you down to your last bucks and then decided to order from ching Chong over seas knowing it's ALWAYS a gamble no matter the source. Just chalk it up to the game and all the savings you previously gained before this L.
My shit was delivered to some Chicago fuck in here that still hasn't hit me back. Lol got their address and IP and other info but it is what it is.... Not worth it. A few good sources like QSC still around. Just gotta do your research.
Also, people crying about a 200 dollar loss is insane lol were you down to your last bucks and then decided to order from ching Chong over seas knowing it's ALWAYS a gamble no matter the source. Just chalk it up to the game and all the savings you previously gained before this L.
My shit was delivered to some Chicago fuck in here that still hasn't hit me back. Lol got their address and IP and other info but it is what it is.... Not worth it. A few good sources like QSC still around. Just gotta do your research.
Swolemates365
Member
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200.00?? I wish it was only 200!!
AlmightyAlpha
Member
Same lol add an extra zero
LGOP528
Member
You are looking at it all wrong.
QSC is not responsible for your spiraling out of control.
You are responsible for making sure that the gear you inject is sterile. I don’t care who it comes from. Everyone has their own acceptable risk. There are people on both sides of the spectrum here so you have access to the information.
This forum is for harm reduction. The goal would be to educate the newcomers, not gatekeeping.
Something very similar to that is exactly what is going to happen. The guys who are upset will not see any reason to apologize as they have it in their minds that they know how to run the business better than QSC.
Good point.
Should have been gone long ago.
Mongo966
Member
Alright, so you've decided to take Tracy at his word. I'm sure you have sound reasoning for that.
Don't tell me to "just accept it wasn't personal." Do you think it's my first day on planet earth, so you expect me to just trust what a criminal on the other side of the world tells me right before he disappears with my money? Just because the timing of it jives with the heat being felt in China? Does that seem logical to you when I say it that way?
You can make your assumptions based on what you know, and I'll make mine based on what I know. Let's just do that instead of you telling me to just fucking accept things the way you see them.
What possible good would this do when members here will order regardless of what evidence you put before them? Just waste time? Another fool's errand?
When price is put before all else the integrity of the forum is lost. Rotten at the core.
@B Ware
Remind me of that Carlin quote...?
"The planet is fine, the people are fucked."
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