Yea I first thought they were going to stop selling raws for good. Apperently only until holiday are over.
But prices will be higher when current stock is finished.
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But prices will be higher when current stock is finished.
Very curious result given the HPLC purity. Peaks 1 and 2 are the esters of the carboxylic acid but no other impurities shown coming from the raw. Hard to believe the free hormone and esterified form co-elute given prior tests Jano has shown. So question remains what the entirety of 9% is.
But the esters of carboxylic acid do account for almost 10% of raw on relative scale by peak area. So perhaps it is a very clean raw. Would point to free hormone as limiting reactant during esterification rxn of free hormone with carboxylic acid.
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I think it's political and all is waiting on the US and what Trump will bring to the table. The last thing China might remember is how many months he kept ships off shoe before he was out of office.
Also more and more home brewers keep popping up, supply seems hard to keep up with, especially when they take a huge loss in raws to customs about 4 times a year.
Fentanyl is a whole other issue that could also be why a crackdown is happening right now. A show of good faith to the US as Trump enters office.
Prohibition didn't work, war on drugs didn't work, neither will cracking down on this stuff.
niqTM
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I have a feeling most people would be ok with that as long as it is available.
It's not decided if they will restock at those prices though. I assume they would only by for their oils and oils will increase in price surely.
And not everything will be avaliable.
I'd say 10-Undecenoic acid.
Based on my limited knowledge and experience I'd guesstimate that 10-Undecenoic acid is the main and mostly only impurity and it is not quite volatile (so you are not seeing it in the GCMS). However, some of it did form methyl and ethyl esters (#1 + #2) which are volatile and can thus be seen.
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Ghoul
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The idea that enforcement against drugs has no impact on supply is really a myth.
"Victory" isn't defined as 100% elimination.
Yes, some amount will always get through, but the more difficult it is the higher the price gets and the lower consumption goes, and the opposite as supply increases and the price goes down.
A kilo of cocaine would be the same price as a kilo of Test if enforcement was the same against both.
Don't misinterpret what I'm saying. It's not "no availability", but the days of tossing a kilo of raws into a box in China and it getting through 99.9% of the time are coming to an end, and with that, the historically dirt cheap prices and easy availability.
Look at all the countries with a "no-reship" policy. Ask yourself why that is.
If you doubt that US customs can do anything to crack down, ask the PCT suppliers why they had to relocate shipping to another country. It's not because stamps in India went up in price.
Every year there is something different!
1 year is was a ban on cialis and viagra, it failed and prices didn't go up.
1 year it was a ban on a major ingredient for stuff like var and mast, that didn't work and only 2 supplier jacked prices and still kept them prices as of today.
I can go on and on, been dealing with near 10 different suppliers over a near 15 years span.
Everything ends up bad and 1st then goes away back to normal until the next thing comes along.
The one thing that stays constant is customs crackdown 4 times a year!
1 year is was a ban on cialis and viagra, it failed and prices didn't go up.
1 year it was a ban on a major ingredient for stuff like var and mast, that didn't work and only 2 supplier jacked prices and still kept them prices as of today.
I can go on and on, been dealing with near 10 different suppliers over a near 15 years span.
Everything ends up bad and 1st then goes away back to normal until the next thing comes along.
The one thing that stays constant is customs crackdown 4 times a year!
MyNameIsJeff
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Thanks! That's excellent news for Boldenone users, considering that 10-Undecenoic acid is about as harmless as an impurity can be.
It also had cocaine go from very pure to complete stomped on shit, I'm 56, I remember the 80's.
I agree with what you are saying, I'm just pointing out that is just doesn't stop people.
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Ghoul
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Definately not. Everything can be had for a price.
For the past few years I’ve been stacking silver. I am now kicking myself for not investing in raws. Someone could make a killing here in the next few months having a lot of hard or impossible to get raws.
Good for you stacking something besides fiat.
You don't want to take that on (slinging raws). You will sleep much better at night with the silver. Stay on the legal path.
The dollar is on the path to not being worth the paper it’s printed on. Technically it’s already there when you consider how much that dollar has been taxed.
I highly recommend stacking precious metals to everyone. If you want a challenge look up what a monster box is. Then challenge yourself to fill one. I’m currently working on filling my second American silver eagle box.
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Yes, I believe the floating 85-95% EQ raws have harmless impurities.
The Meso members who have tested the lowest purity EQ can confirm by sending their samples for extra impurity testing, and this way we can answer the million dollar question about safety of EQ at 90%.
Especially that the +96% purity sticky EQ hasn't been practical at all for brewing, most of them cannot hold over 200mg/ml and crash beyond that.
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I'll add the new US domestic tablets to the list once the results are received.
I'll add the new US domestic tablets to the list once the results are received.
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Deca 200mg/ml GCMS analysis of impurities: Janoshik Analytical
GCMS enhanced testing attached.
Nandrolone decanoate is famous for being a low purity raw material.
We reached +96% on several batchs, but in the majority of cases, it's about 92%-94%.
GCMS is an interesting way to check the impurities.
No harmful impurities detected. The GCMS compounds detected are the same found in the Testosterone Decanoate GCMS analysis performed on our TD 250mg/ml sample.
GCMS enhanced testing attached.
Nandrolone decanoate is famous for being a low purity raw material.
We reached +96% on several batchs, but in the majority of cases, it's about 92%-94%.
GCMS is an interesting way to check the impurities.
No harmful impurities detected. The GCMS compounds detected are the same found in the Testosterone Decanoate GCMS analysis performed on our TD 250mg/ml sample.
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LGOP528
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Is Trestolone going to be part of this shortage?
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We have seen the 3 different GC MS results performed on the 3 samples of Testosterone Decanoate, Nandrolone Decanoate, and Boldenone Undecylenate, it is entirely reasonable and fair to request a GCMS test from any customer who complains of a certain impurity, non-standard and non-common, for any request for correction or compensation, especially if there is any accusation of foreign contamination, which is something we see quite often from whining raws newbies, the harm reduction community should request systematically a GCMS from these kind of members, the same way we request an HPLC testing from idiots who bring pregnany test results to accuse HCG of being bunk.
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