47Ronin
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Well that’s fucked. Based off the most recent tests I found for 30 mg RETA it’s 50/50 that it is really RETA. I’ll be sending mine to Jano for testing.
MESO-Rx
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Wuhan Wansheng Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (USA, International)
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Photon
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It's not a good gauge. I can send a vial of random stuff and claim it's reta. Do you think it'll pass the test?
47Ronin
Member
No not all. But if members are sending stuff in such as Reta for testing why would they send some unknown substance?
It would have to be someone looking to make them look bad.
I just wanted to make sure I was understanding that part of the test.
Thanks for answering the question man!
I really do appreciate it. I did find a recent Jano test that says otherwise for the 30 mg RETA
shredded.lyfe
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Wtf are you talking about, there is no such thing as glp1 tolerance.
Wannabesamsulek
New Member
With how many orders WWB is getting and how cheap Reta is to produce there is no incentive to send bunk. Probably some delivery/factory mix-up at the worst.
Knowing how finnrick testing works it could be someone just wanting to test a source that isn't listed so they just claim its from WWB. Huge flaws with finnrick.
I tried sending in reta from a non-listed vendor and they only had a signal/whatsapp contact and finnrick wouldn't let me send the vial in no matter how much extra information I provided about the vendor. They didn't want to list them.
I'm also sitting on 3x30mg kits of reta from WWB so this is my way of reassuring myself haha. My recent dose from a 15mg kit feels no different then a 10mg kit I got from opti.
Mr.AAJR
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If this were true, there would never be any reason to titrate up. Everyone would get the same effect forever on the minimum effective dose. Clearly, as shown in ALL of the data, that is not the case.
Wannabesamsulek
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Just placed my 4th order w/ WWB through Cavan(2nd from China warehouse). Dude is straight business. Multiple tirz kits, some more reta because hoarding, melanotan 2, and the cock bombs. I'm excited to try the cock bombs.
Just started the Oxy from my last order. I've been on it a week and I don't notice much with 50mg. At 100mg I definitely notice my BP is higher but it isn't the anti-gravity pill it was made out to be.
Just started the Oxy from my last order. I've been on it a week and I don't notice much with 50mg. At 100mg I definitely notice my BP is higher but it isn't the anti-gravity pill it was made out to be.
I did my first filtering of WWB's Sustanon 250. Granted I was a little clumsy but I wanted to make sure I followed the instruction correctly. Took me about 10 minutes to filter a 10ML into a new vial. Feeling more comfortable with the filtered oil, I took a small dose of .25ML right after just to see if I get any PIP or welt. I used a 22G to draw and inject with a 27G EasyTouch 1ML syringe. So far no PIP.
Wannabesamsulek
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If your claim were correct, there would be no rationale for dose escalation at all. Everyone would achieve a permanent, stable effect at the minimum effective dose. That is clearly not what we observe, and it contradicts every major dataset available.
If tolerance truly developed in the way you’re describing, then once a stall occurred at a given dose, discontinuing the drug at that same dose would not produce rebound weight gain. Yet rebound is consistently observed, which directly undermines the tolerance argument.
Dose escalation is not about “chasing tolerance.” It exists to: 1. Gradually adapt the gastrointestinal system to slower gastric emptying and central satiety signaling, minimizing severe side effects.2. Progressively lower the body-weight set point.
As weight is lost, metabolic rate declines and leptin signaling from shrinking adipocytes diminishes, reducing satiety signaling at any fixed dose. Increasing the dose counteracts these physiological adaptations, allowing the set point to shift lower.
Not a lot of research on this but these are my current thoughts! I could totally be wrong. Lots of headlines exist on NCBI/NIH about tolerance but don't have true data or mechanisms backing it.
Mr.AAJR
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Correct me if I am wrong, but that is literally EXACTLY what I said, just in different words. Did you put my response into ChatGPT and ask it to spit out the same thing in a slightly more intellectual tone?
After filtering the 10ml, how much did you come up with? I haven't done it yet, but I've read you can use an additional unit or 2 of BAC water or MCT or whatever to push through the filter to get as much as you can out of it.
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Laxman3221
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IS the HGH still bad?
Wannabesamsulek
New Member
Read what you wrote and the context around it. You said titration was because you build a tolerance for GLP-1 over time, aka lose the intended effect at a given dose such as the hunger suppression. You may have just intended it to say tolerance to side effects but you didn’t. Given the original post “Have you thought about just coming off completely to reset your tolerance.” insinuating that if the user were to go off and back on he could continue losing weight at a lower dose after resetting his “tolerance” aka the intended hunger effect.
This isn’t the reason behind titration in studies and you don’t build a tolerance to the hunger suppression.
TLDR: You claim there is a building GLP-1 tolerance to hunger suppressions and I disagree and provide my reasons for disagreement.
What? Whatever you're trying to say isn't working. Yes you build up a tolerance to it, that's why you have to take more. So yes if you stop taking it for a length of time then yes you would start over at a lower dose. You wouldn't do 10mg for a year, take a year off and think it smart to start right back at 10mg would you? You know what they are trying to say. Stop using chatgpt to overcomplicate everything.
I probably lost about 1ML oil during the process but I don't really care because this gear is so inexpensive and I will only be taking 60-80mg a week.
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Raww
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If the body built tolerance to glp-1's then their effectiveness at controlling glucose would decrease as the tolerance built. That does not happen. Ergo - tolerance is not built to the drug.
The only effect that 'seems' to decrease is the effect upon weight loss - and that can be explained by:
The only effect that 'seems' to decrease is the effect upon weight loss - and that can be explained by:
Andrewthatguy
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That’s a concept only like 10 percent of the people in the gym understand. I love the oh I track them by eyeing it. Na bruh weigh your shit out, or you’re not tracking shit. That simple
Has anyone tried their Sust 400? I have to believe it's very ouchy.
Andrewthatguy
Member
Still though, glps don't override thermodynamics. If somebody’s weight loss comes to a halt. It’s cause they’re not in a calorie deficit. It’s physically impossible to not lose weight on a calorie deficit. If people better understood this, they would understand how to use these drugs better.
Necessary Evil
Member
Do you mind sharing these recent tests?
Prior of using 30mg Retatrutide I was using their 5mg which was working wonderfully.
About 5 weeks ago I switched to 30mg and I actually noticed an increase in hunger. The thing is though that this period was around the start of December and I, personally had many family events to attend to which I binged in some of them.
On top of that it might also be that at the time I switched to their 30mg I should have titrated the dosage up, since tolerance is indeed a thing.
My dosage history was as follows:
Week 1-4 1mg per week, week 4-6 3mg per week, and now I'm on 4.5mg per week and so far so good, although weight remains the same.
Take my feelz report with a grain of salt.
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