I’m sure this has probably been talked about but any time I take dbol or anavar pretty much any oral I get heart burn bad anyone have the fix
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Anabolic Steroids
Heart burn on orals
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Primo_Build_
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Milk, and bland food. Works for me at least
fooba
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omeprazole
Yup, this is the stuff, works better than anything else for me.
29trt
Member
the first line is glutamine 5-20g works very well at sane dosages of orals not so much with tren
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
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I definitely echo the Glutamine although it can get expensive if going over 20g daily. Iv heard a lot of people using upto 40g
I recently ordered some UDCA from BG I plan to run this for two weeks before trying to add an oral just to see if it's any good.
Plenty of water when taking your orals, don't just have a sip drink the bottle.
Omperazole can take some time to work it's magic so glutamine is a faster fix if your just trying to get through your cycle.
Next time plan ahead, make sure the kidneys and liver are at optimal health then protect while on cycle aswell.
Tren is harsh enough, I wouldn't run Tren with any oral anymore.
I won’t run tren anymore the sides for me arnt worth the reward but I do remember feeling like I was going to die from the heart burn
Pulpfiction
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Omeprazole 100 percent, I got a script and would take it first thing before I ate in the morning and no heart burn whatsoever, if I ever missed it I had heartburn bad
Or you can stop orals. Stick to injectables, and when injectables cause problems stop using steroids.
Sometimes, there are things some people are not meant to do. Don't keep forcing yourself to use compounds that gives you sides you cannot tolerate or need more drugs to mitigate its effects.
There are better choices than orals especially for older folks like milder compounds like primo for growth.
Sometimes, there are things some people are not meant to do. Don't keep forcing yourself to use compounds that gives you sides you cannot tolerate or need more drugs to mitigate its effects.
There are better choices than orals especially for older folks like milder compounds like primo for growth.
narta
Member
If you MUST take orals, take them as injectibles. Dbol/Drol/Sdrol/Winny are available as injectibles in most sources
Var gave me nasty heartburn especially if I go higher than 50mg.
Pulpfiction
Member
yea I remember my doctor prescribed me this strictly for having issues with gear, I was honest with him. He said take it before you eat or drink anything in the morning and you’ll be good to go
Juicedhead
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probiotics. I have never had heartburn since.
Drex
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This side effect is typical with orals, because they are more hepatotoxics than injectables (for and they could cause different stomach problems due to irritation of the gastric mucosa.
Also the stomach is affected indirectly for the liver injuries caused by this drug have been described in both animals and humans, and it has been shown that it can induce oxidative stress in hepatocytes and, at high doses, exert a proliferative stimulus. The most common form of presentation is cholestatic hepatitis and other types of lesions associated with the use of high doses: pure cholestasis, acute cholestatic hepatitis, acute hepatocellular injury,...
If any of these injuries is especially important, due to its severity and frequency of appearance (after a few weeks of use) it is cholestasis. This pathology consists of the interruption of the flow of bile that occurs in the liver towards the duodenum. This interruption can be caused by physical blockages (gallstones or tumors) or chemical blockages (drug and ASA interaction). That bile does not flow and remains stagnant in the liver cells that produce it (hepatocytes) is a serious problem, not only because it is a liquid that exerts pressure on the cells and ducts of the organ, but also because the end of bile Bile is emulsifying (breaking down) the fats we consume, so you can imagine the damage it can cause.
Therefore, while injectable SARMs and AAS produce liver damage mediated by oxidative stress, oral AAS do so in a hepatobiliary manner, the consequences and solutions of which will be different.
Solution: omeprazol and other protectors doesnt work good with this problem and there is not anything to resolve this problem. The best solucion is try to choose steroids inyectables instead of orals. The liver protectors like TUDCA and NAC could help with this problem (specially TUDCA), because both avoid the cholestatic hepatitis for their cleaning properties about liver.
Regards,
The first move is to decide whether you need to be on orals. If you look around and can't imagine a way forward without them, then you need side-effect management.
The typically recommended sequence for controlling heartburn is antacid, then acid reducers (sometimes called H2 blockers), then proton pump inhibitor. That's commonly calcium carbonate/TUMS, famotidine/Pepcid, then omperazole/Prilosec.
Jumping straight to the PPIs at the first symptom is overkill. Not only do they compromise digestion, some compelling data suggest long-term use may increase the incidences of dementia.
The utility of PPIs is that they reduce stomach acidity (raise pH) for long periods, enough to allow tissue that's been damaged by stomach fluid to heal. But early heartburn discomfort doesn't always mean you've got a lesion that needs all that time. So next time you take an oral, time a TUMS for the period during which you'd usually feel discomfort. If that doesn't work, get some generic Pepcid AC -- it's a chewable that has an acid reducer and a TUMS built in. That'll make your stomach fluid less caustic for a few hours. Only if that doesn't work, and you still feel a burn pretty much constantly, should you go on PPIs for a period. Let the damaged esophageal tissue heal, then go back to trying TUMS only -- because now the healed tissue may not feel any reflux, and the TUMS makes the reflux less damaging.
It's worth being cautious here because, if you're on anabolics, you generally want the food you eat to be able to supply tissue. If you aren't digesting your food as well, you'll end up having to eat more and destroying your asshole in the process. It's just trading one misery for another if you jump straight to PPIs.
The typically recommended sequence for controlling heartburn is antacid, then acid reducers (sometimes called H2 blockers), then proton pump inhibitor. That's commonly calcium carbonate/TUMS, famotidine/Pepcid, then omperazole/Prilosec.
Jumping straight to the PPIs at the first symptom is overkill. Not only do they compromise digestion, some compelling data suggest long-term use may increase the incidences of dementia.
The utility of PPIs is that they reduce stomach acidity (raise pH) for long periods, enough to allow tissue that's been damaged by stomach fluid to heal. But early heartburn discomfort doesn't always mean you've got a lesion that needs all that time. So next time you take an oral, time a TUMS for the period during which you'd usually feel discomfort. If that doesn't work, get some generic Pepcid AC -- it's a chewable that has an acid reducer and a TUMS built in. That'll make your stomach fluid less caustic for a few hours. Only if that doesn't work, and you still feel a burn pretty much constantly, should you go on PPIs for a period. Let the damaged esophageal tissue heal, then go back to trying TUMS only -- because now the healed tissue may not feel any reflux, and the TUMS makes the reflux less damaging.
It's worth being cautious here because, if you're on anabolics, you generally want the food you eat to be able to supply tissue. If you aren't digesting your food as well, you'll end up having to eat more and destroying your asshole in the process. It's just trading one misery for another if you jump straight to PPIs.
Spaceman Spiff
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First line glutamine for what?
PPI have alot of medication contraindications, very much overused..
H2 blockers such as pepcid are more realistic.
Drex
New Member
Really the IBP, pepsine HCL, domperidone, anti acids,...never resolve the problem, because with these medicines if you treat the symptom or consequence of a problem, not the root or the cause, the most they do is relieve, never heal. But the damage continues doing even if you cover it up with antacids,...
Spaceman Spiff
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Damage doesnt continue if you are on antacids... that prevents further damage...
