Wow. A week into mast you got shedding ?? How much did you pin and which ester was it ?
Thanks
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Wow. A week into mast you got shedding ?? How much did you pin and which ester was it ?
Thanks
Avarice911
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Mast prop. 50mg ED
Mrgiuoco
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How’s your estrodial
How do you split your injections ? I tried to do 2x per week but I feel like the test E spikes pretty quickly compared to primo so I get high e2 sides that I used to get before I got on AIs. ( I don’t take AIs since starting primo ). But the acne goes away with daily pins. I may need to brew a lower co centration batch instead of 250 TE so I can more easily divide without rounding. Ideally I’ll just brew a blend vial
Mrgiuoco
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I do Ed pinning. Really helps
Right where I like it in the low 20s on the ultrasensitive test.
I do M/W/F, but I use Cyp since it agrees with me better than Eth, I don't notice sides until a much higher dose, water, acne, etc.
Mrgiuoco
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Try ru58841 I’m planning to run it along side primo when I start to try reduce hairloss
Lol but why though, I don't get any hair loss from primo
Mrgiuoco
New Member
Yea but it will help with mast
I wonder how much of the hair loss that guys get from DHT compounds is because they have natural DHT already
Ie in my case I take fin and my DHT levels are undetectable on blood test so maybe adding DHT compounds just puts me into “natty dht “ levels.
Still, not chancing it either way. Running the compete hair protection stack. Oral fin. Oral min. Topical DUT+minox. Plus the anti androgens. RU, pyr.
The hair stack was ok during a prior 8 week winny cycle. Third week on primo and test now so keeping my fingers crossed. I really like primo. I’d Give up hair before I gave up primo.
Ie in my case I take fin and my DHT levels are undetectable on blood test so maybe adding DHT compounds just puts me into “natty dht “ levels.
Still, not chancing it either way. Running the compete hair protection stack. Oral fin. Oral min. Topical DUT+minox. Plus the anti androgens. RU, pyr.
The hair stack was ok during a prior 8 week winny cycle. Third week on primo and test now so keeping my fingers crossed. I really like primo. I’d Give up hair before I gave up primo.
Mrgiuoco
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I’m going to try primo for the first time soon. I’m choosing it over nandrolone I hope it goes well. I’m not prone to hairloss but I’m going to have RU on hand just incase. Hopefully it goes well
How soon into primo cycle did you experience shedding ? What dose and other compounds were you running ?
Any hair protoocls when this happened ? Fin /minox /RU etc?
Thx
Avarice911
Member
I’m simply going to stay away from the PEDs that are typically known to cause more shedding. That’s on top of fin/minox/ru
Wanted to add a data point from recent experience.
Background: I have MPB issues. Been on fin/minox for 20yrs
Prior cycle experience
Test only 300 mg. Some thinning out despite fin , topical 5% minox and oral minox 2.5mg. Su subsequently I learned that fin only blocks something like 70% of DHT conversion and even less in the scalp.
With test 600 mg and winstrol 50mg ED I added RU. helped keep hair as is. Six weeks of winny
Most recently I started primo and test. With some Proviron thrown here and there. 525 test and 700 primo. Also running RU and Pyralutamide daily. Plus topical dutasteride. No shedding. Four weeks in I addded winny 100 mg ED. injectable. Shedding began less than a week into this. Stopped the winny. I did run out of pyralutamide as well so I don’t know whether or not the shedding would have happened if I was running pyr.
I pulled winny and the visible shedding stopped.
many variables here to make a determination as to what caused the shedding: was it the lack of pyr for this same week that I added winny? Was it just the large winny dose and maybe it wouldn’t have happened on running a smaller amount?
Or maybe the body has a limit to give you a pass on a particular level of DHT compounds in your body. So maybe if I wasn’t running primo as well then 100 winstrol would have been fine. I don’t know.
One thing that I’ve been wondering is whether the fact that I’ve nuked my natural DHT levels (with fin and dut) gives more capacity to the body to absorb DHT compounds without hair damage. If guys who’ve experienced hair loss on primo or mast , do they have natty DHT in their system ? So this DHT then ends up occupying receptor sites instead of DHT steroid molecules occupying these sites , or vice versa , so you end up with free floating DHT that then goes to town on your hair follicles. So in that sense maybe fin doesn’t block /protect from DHT steroids but it reduces systemic DHT and thus there’s less potential damage causing molecules. Just a thought.
Anyway , just wanted to share this recent experience. Five weeks into primo and test. So far not seeing any major Damage from primo. The harsh shedding from winstrol stopped two or three days after pulling winstrol out. At this point I’m not gonna experiment to see if a lower dose winstrol would be fine with primo
Background: I have MPB issues. Been on fin/minox for 20yrs
Prior cycle experience
Test only 300 mg. Some thinning out despite fin , topical 5% minox and oral minox 2.5mg. Su subsequently I learned that fin only blocks something like 70% of DHT conversion and even less in the scalp.
With test 600 mg and winstrol 50mg ED I added RU. helped keep hair as is. Six weeks of winny
Most recently I started primo and test. With some Proviron thrown here and there. 525 test and 700 primo. Also running RU and Pyralutamide daily. Plus topical dutasteride. No shedding. Four weeks in I addded winny 100 mg ED. injectable. Shedding began less than a week into this. Stopped the winny. I did run out of pyralutamide as well so I don’t know whether or not the shedding would have happened if I was running pyr.
I pulled winny and the visible shedding stopped.
many variables here to make a determination as to what caused the shedding: was it the lack of pyr for this same week that I added winny? Was it just the large winny dose and maybe it wouldn’t have happened on running a smaller amount?
Or maybe the body has a limit to give you a pass on a particular level of DHT compounds in your body. So maybe if I wasn’t running primo as well then 100 winstrol would have been fine. I don’t know.
One thing that I’ve been wondering is whether the fact that I’ve nuked my natural DHT levels (with fin and dut) gives more capacity to the body to absorb DHT compounds without hair damage. If guys who’ve experienced hair loss on primo or mast , do they have natty DHT in their system ? So this DHT then ends up occupying receptor sites instead of DHT steroid molecules occupying these sites , or vice versa , so you end up with free floating DHT that then goes to town on your hair follicles. So in that sense maybe fin doesn’t block /protect from DHT steroids but it reduces systemic DHT and thus there’s less potential damage causing molecules. Just a thought.
Anyway , just wanted to share this recent experience. Five weeks into primo and test. So far not seeing any major Damage from primo. The harsh shedding from winstrol stopped two or three days after pulling winstrol out. At this point I’m not gonna experiment to see if a lower dose winstrol would be fine with primo
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