What makes you run away from a source?

[Lumberjack]

Hi everyone, I realize I'm likely walking on thin ice with this question, so please keep your sources to yourselves on this one. I'm NOT asking for a source. I'll figure that out when the time comes, but...

What makes you run away from a potential source? I'm new to this game and would like to not get fleeced if possible. What are the red flags? What gives you confidence to test new waters? Payment types, emails, location, etc. I've never used bitcoin but took screenshots of some posts referring to this and exodus. If this is your preferred payment method it would be helpful to know. Thanks for your advice!

Moderators, delete this if I'm out of bounds. Not trying to piss anyone off on day 1.

 

[Deleted member 134759]

Also any source that sells controlled substances besides steroids I stay away from. If they’re selling Xanax, pain pills, nope!!! I don’t do business with those types of people. For moral reasons and because they are attracting more law enforcement attention to themselves (and by proxy their customer base).

 

[Lumberjack]

Also any source that sells controlled substances besides steroids I stay away from. If they’re selling Xanax, pain pills, nope!!! I don’t do business with those types of people. For moral reasons and because they are attracting more law enforcement attention to themselves (and by proxy their customer base).

That's a good point. I haven't seen that yet with the sources I've been looking at, but I'm sure it happens. I also worry about cross contamination with a ugl that might have other drugs in the lab. What's to say a lab isn't making fentanyl at night in the same place they are making anavar. Again I haven't heard of it happening yet but the Chinese labs really concern me in particular. The only steroid busts I have seen in my home state were a byproduct of a bust for meth or other hard drugs. I've never seen a news article from Michigan where steroids were the only thing found.

 

[Rido]

That's a good point. I haven't seen that yet with the sources I've been looking at, but I'm sure it happens. I also worry about cross contamination with a ugl that might have other drugs in the lab. What's to say a lab isn't making fentanyl at night in the same place they are making anavar. Again I haven't heard of it happening yet but the Chinese labs really concern me in particular. The only steroid busts I have seen in my home state were a byproduct of a bust for meth or other hard drugs. I've never seen a news article from Michigan where steroids were the only thing found.

I am sure they would lose money by mixing fentanyl in there. ... I think you are overly worried at this point.

get from a reputable source or dont run anything at all.

 

[petefox]

A red flag for me is when a source I've used with no issue suddenly has issues with orders/shipping/communication.

I get my pack and things are good; but say if someone orders after me and they hear nothing of payment confirmation, or it takes half the shipping time to hear it already shipped or processed, or even packs aren't labeled correctly maybe not labeled at all.

This makes me skeptical of how my next order will go, and if the risk is worth it. Then there's the need to rationalize that "life happens" and what we do isn't coming from Amazon Prime and they have the product I need at a crazy good price I won't find elsewhere.

That's why I keep tabs on alternatives, just in case.

 

[RaddishPork]

One of the things that always makes me wary of a source is those who accept payment by bank transfer. Most sources deal in digital currency because it's harder for the authorities to trace it. If they accept bank transfer then maybe they aren't that worried about getting caught because there's no active ingredient in their gear so what could they charge them with? Another thing that makes me wary is sources that sell all the labs that the other sources sell. E.g. SIS, Onyx, Gentech, Pharmaqo etc. And if you know for a fact that one of the labs they stock is bunk then why would any of the others be any better. They're not going to sell a decent lab alongside crap ones are they !
Same applies to the individual labs themselves. Beware of labs that have every steroid known to man. The time money, resources and expertise required to produce all of those different steroids would be phenomenonal. It's most likely the same oil in every vial regardless of what's on the label. The good labs tend to stick to about a dozen strong favourites such as Test E , Deca, Tren etc.

There are parts of the world where it's not illegal to manufacture these drugs. I believe somewhere deep in the QSC thread he mentions that his business is totally legal in his country. In scenarios like that they're not breaking the law, the buyer is, so they can gladly accept money for a transaction that is legal in their own country.

I do get what you're saying. My red flag for this is people who use Zelle. There are a few websites that allow you to zelle them the money and just put the order # in the notes and they ship it out. This is about as careless as it gets IMO. Zelle is directly tied to your bank account in most cases so the fed boys can easily just look at your bank history and see every single time you ever sent money, and it will also have a note of the purchase order for them all.

 

[GMC]

One of the things that always makes me wary of a source is those who accept payment by bank transfer. Most sources deal in digital currency because it's harder for the authorities to trace it. If they accept bank transfer then maybe they aren't that worried about getting caught because there's no active ingredient in their gear so what could they charge them with?

I’ve never had any issues with BT (EU-UK & UK domestic). Maybe just been lucky, but I stick with the ones I know!!
The sources I’ve used seem to have a pretty efficient and effective banking system, which shows to me they are serious and know what they are doing.
In fact, I’d personally be more vary with ones that only take crypto - although if I was buying bulk quantities, I would send crypto.

 

[Lumberjack]

There are parts of the world where it's not illegal to manufacture these drugs. I believe somewhere deep in the QSC thread he mentions that his business is totally legal in his country. In scenarios like that they're not breaking the law, the buyer is, so they can gladly accept money for a transaction that is legal in their own country.

I do get what you're saying. My red flag for this is people who use Zelle. There are a few websites that allow you to zelle them the money and just put the order # in the notes and they ship it out. This is about as careless as it gets IMO. Zelle is directly tied to your bank account in most cases so the fed boys can easily just look at your bank history and see every single time you ever sent money, and it will also have a note of the purchase order for them all.

Thanks for the input Chevoguap. It sounds like bitcoin from an exodus wallet is pretty secure. I have never purchase bitcoin before, let alone used a crypto wallet. I found a couple threads in regards to this but would appreciate any input you have.

 

[ghostpharma]

No recent batch testing, amber vials, poor OPSEC, poor shipping practices, longer than acceptable shipping times for domestic, not active enough on the forums, doesn’t accept accountability for mistakes, floaters, poorly pressed orals, lose vial caps

amber vials turn you away? even with like tren ace?

 

[DB_636]

amber vials turn you away? even with like tren ace?

I think he means the actual color of the vial, not the color of the substance inside. All vials should most definitely be clear.

 

[ghostpharma]

I think he means the actual color of the vial, not the color of the substance inside. All vials should most definitely be clear.

ahh makes sense! definitely clear, you wanna see any impurities! i was about to say, man I thought I was pretty good at brewing raws but my tren ace always has a yellow orangish hue, my tren e is pretty yellow / clear though

 

[Soloshino]

Suspiciously low prices, although it does seem that raws are so inexpensive nowadays that it's not unusual to find test-e for $25/vial and even tren-e for under $50/vial from even reputable sources.
I feel like ten years ago that was almost unheard of.

 

[Lil_swole87]

Poor quality/bad reviews and bad OPSEC are number 1 for me. Not giving a discount credit for blood test results.

Coinbase and exodus are separate things. You should never send funds directly from coinbase to a source. Coinbase is a trading platform whereas exodus is simply a wallet. I STRONGLY recommend downloading exodus and sending all funds from Coinbase to Exodus, then Exodus to your source. If coinbase detects you sending funds directly associated with "nefarious" activity then they may freeze your account (this can be permanent, too). This is unlikely with a steroid source but it's always better safe than sorry I work in IT Security for over a decade and you can reference my posts on security on the forum, I tend to know my shit in this regard. Feel free to ask questions.

I am actually gonna start a crypto specific thread here soon to outline crypto and make it into a general crypto question area.

But how do you keep you Bitcoin from getting stolen from exodus wallet though they are knew for that and that's worry me think you could give some tips or just transfer everything as fast as you can then send to a receiver wallet as nd leave nothing in the wallet to be taken ???

 

[BoloYang2023]

question what do you think if you order one time and get the usual labeling then next time the labeling is different do you trust it and the source?

 

[AlexDavis43]

My first inclination would be that that's a bit paranoid, and as he even stated unlikely, but he's also 100% with the better safe than sorry mentality, particularly with Coinbase as opposed to other exchanges though. Coinbase reports directly to the IRS unlike many other platforms, and as the exchange that's largely marketed to newbies just venturing into the crypto world it would be more likely to happen there than elsewhere. Despite that unlikelihood though, yeah always a good idea to store crypto off-platform anyway, even if for short periods, if you're not actively trading.

Also be wary of platforms such as Robinhood. You dont actually own the crypto there, you only hold an equivalent "credit" on their platform. no keys = not your crypto.

Not paranoid. You can get permanently kicked off Coinbase for this. Send to a wallet first. I know, it's a pain in the ass learning how to do it the first time, but it's very easy after you've done it a few times.

@MFAAS @cstearns85

 

[AlexDavis43]

I am sure they would lose money by mixing fentanyl in there. ... I think you are overly worried at this point.

get from a reputable source or dont run anything at all.

Fent is uniquely inexpensive, but tbh I doubt you'd see any in an anavar tab (and vice versa).

*yes, reputable source

 

[Millard]

I STRONGLY recommend downloading exodus and sending all funds from Coinbase to Exodus, then Exodus to your source. If coinbase detects you sending funds directly associated with "nefarious" activity then they may freeze your account (this can be permanent, too).

This doesn't really help. Coinbase follows outgoing transactions for at least 6 hops.

 

[Millard]

But how do you keep you Bitcoin from getting stolen from exodus wallet

It's a self-custody wallet.

 

[I6JQdr06]

Are there still bitcoin tumblers? There used to be back in the Silk Road days.

They take XBT, obfuscate the origin, and then return it to you.

 

[Eddie.]

But how do you keep you Bitcoin from getting stolen from exodus wallet though they are knew for that and that's worry me think you could give some tips or just transfer everything as fast as you can then send to a receiver wallet as nd leave nothing in the wallet to be taken ???

I recently had to place my first order with bitcoin and although i'm keeping up with the latest tech stuff i can say it took me many hours to finally figure how to do it properly. Now i think i can make a payment in 10-15 minutes though since i saw how things work. In my country banks have banned the transactions with exchange platforms such as coinbase or binance (most popular here) so i had to transfer my money to an online foreign bank, then purchase bitcoin on the exchange (binance) and then withdraw them to another online wallet platform. I suggest if anyone is new to this to not store crypto online, either on the exchange or your wallet..unless you're sure what you're doing. I add stuff to the basket, see how much it will cost me and then add the money to buy the given amount in bitcoin and then make the purchase.

 

[Lil_swole87]

It's a self-custody wallet.

Then why is that all YouTube talk about how people get there Bitcoin still form the exodus wallet... I need to stop over looking into things. dose anyone know the transfer fee wallet to wallet