Running 800 meters, 1500 meters, which legal supplements do you recommend

[john11]

Hi And thanks for reading.

Am going to be running the 800 meters, 1500 meters, and possibly the 3000 meters. Which supplements do you think would be usefull for running these relative short distances. Cardarine and cardazol maybe? Or are these more for longer distances.
What would you recommend for these middle distance runs

 

[MFAAS]

Lol dude c'mon, cardarine isn't a supplement. It is a drug, banned by every sports drug testing organization I have ever heard of. Cardazol would be legal but it seems like just a vitamin blend looking to capitalize on a name that sounds similar to cardarine. I don't have ant recommendations but wanted to say not to take cardarine unless you wanna get suspended for cheating.

 

[john11]

Thanks !

Do you think cardazol is all hype, that taking a good multi vitamin and a clean diet would be better.

This is the ingredient list for cardazol, do you recognise anything in here which may be suitable for cardio improvements. Training gains are heavily influenced by the diet, is there anything in here which you would consider beneficial to consume before a run, or perhaps to include in your diet on a long term basis:​

Vitamin B3 (as Niacin) 10 mg, Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxine HCl) 10 mg, Vitamin B9 (as Folic Acid) 200 mcg, Vitamin B12 (as Methylcobalamin) 100 mcg:​

The "B vitamin" family all help break down fats, proteins, and carbohydrates from the food you eat. They then turn that food into energy. Other uses are blood cell health, healthy skin, and gut health.

Chromium (as Nicotinate Glycinate Chelate) 100 mcg:​

Naturally suppresses binge eating and increasing insulin sensitivity.

Iodine (from Kelp) 115 mcg:​

An essential mineral that boosts healthy metabolism.

D-Aspartic Acid 800 mg:​

Great for energy, muscle size, and strength. Considered a natural testosterone booster.

Agmatine Sulfate (as Agmass™) 600 mg:​

Great for energy and boosting pumps during your workout. Out of the gym it works as a nootropic, reduces stress, and boosts focus.

Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCl 500 mg:​

Known as ALCAR for short, this helps your mitochondria burn fat and boost energy. It also has been shown to boost brain power.

Taurine 500 mg:​

Vital as an electrolyte aid. It will improve glucose tolerance and increase insulin action.

Caffeine Anhydrous 133 mg:​

A safe addition to the stack to boost metabolism and lower appetite.

Creatine HCl 200 mg:​

Has tremendous benefits across the board, but specifically great for boosting muscle cells and increasing high-intensity workouts.

N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine 200 mg:​

A great anti-stress amino acid.

Green Tea (Camellia sinensis) [Leaf] (Standardized to 50% Polyphenols) 200 mg:​

Antioxidant which boosts brain function, lowers cancer risk, and helps with fat loss.

Creatine Pyruvate 100 mg:​

Improves strength, muscle mass, and recovery during and after your workouts.

Hordenine HCl 100 mg:​

Boosts focus, mood, and energy.

Griffonia simplicifolia [Seed] (Standardized to 98% 5-HTP) 100 mg:​

Great for calming properties. Reverses anxiety and insomnia.

Cinnamon (Cinnamomum cassia) [Bark] Extract 100 mg:​

Lowers blood sugar and helps with heart health.

Methyliberine (as Dynamine™ 99%) 100 mg:​

Boosts central nervous system without affecting blood pressure.

Dicaffeine Malate (as Infinergy) 22.2 mg:​

Boosts energy, focus, and metabolism. Also added to help you digest all these ingredients.

Ginger (Zingiber officinale) [Root] Extract 50 mg:​

Another ingredient to help offset any stomach discomfort. Historically used to prevent motion sickness. It's a great natural testosterone booster too.

KinetIQ™ Citrus aurantium [Fruit] (Standardized to 50% Para-Synephrine) 4 mg:​

Derived from bitter orange, it helps lower appetite. It's pretty much the only legal ephedrine you can use use.

Kelp (Laminaria digitata) [Whole Plant] Powder 25mg:​

Super high in vitamins and minerals across the board.

Evodia rutaecarpa [Fruit] (Standardized to 98% Evodiamine) 20 mg:​

Great as a stomach aid and anti-inflammatory.

Black Pepper​

Rauwolfia vomitoria [Root Bark] (Standardized to 90% Rauwolscine) 2 mg:​

 

[MFAAS]

Idk, the cardazol is $2 per pill. I wouldn’t pay that much for that supplement. My gut feeling is that it doesn't do enough to justify the cost

 

[barbell001]

Idk, the cardazol is $2 per pill. I wouldn’t pay that much for that supplement. My gut feeling is that it doesn't do enough to justify the cost

Looks like you might have your hands full with this one LMAO

 

[OmL]

Hi guys I’m looking for advice that I want to hear. I will argue with you and disregard it if I don’t like it. I want to run PED’s and be pleased with it. But I want legal things.

 

[MFAAS]

Lop ye

Looks like you might have your hands full with this one LMAO

Lmao Yes indeed. That got way more in depth than I ever expected

@john11 I unfortunately don't have the time to go through the list of ingredients one by one to see if a supplement is legit. Furthermore, even though the ingredients may be legit, they may not be properly dosed. It is very common for supplement blends like these to contain a near-worthless amount of a supplement in them. For example, betaine is commonly extremely underfunded.

I would be concerned about the kelp in there. It's really not necessary to add extra vitamins and minerals if you have a good diet. Kelp is often very high in lead and arsenic.


I would keep it simple. I would stop consuming caffeine for 3 weeks before the race. The. I would have a couple espresso shots before the race. That caffeine jolt will have you going so strong you'll forget all about cardazol.

Creatine has been shown to be pretty worthless for endurance training. It really only helps for lifting/short bursts of energy. Also it'll make you gain water weight. Meaning you have more weight you now have to push around while running. I'd imagine this could increase your run times by those fractions or seconds. HOWEVER, the dose is only 200 mg so maybe it's fine. 20o mg isn't really enough to do anything (so it's underdosed and likely worthless).

Again, I wouldn't buy that shit.

I would just train hard. Do NOT take cardarine or ITPP or anything while training because they will prevent positive adaptations of blood vessels. This is due to the increased oxygen saturation, your body is tricked into thinking it doesn't need to adapt because it can carry so much oxygen...but then once the drug is out of your system you lose that edge and now you're running worse times than when you were training.

You could check out reddit r/supplements. They get off on this sort of thing and may be able to help you more. But Again, I would just so the caffeine break then big dose on race day thing. This has been shown to be effective in studies (or at least 1 study as far as I know).

 

[Monkipalo]

Injectable l carnitine might help you, a lot of it. Are you getting drug tested?

 

[john11]

Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
I am trying to find anything and everything that may assist in my training and making me a better runner - am open to any suggestions whatsoever.
I am not getting tested, but in the future i probably will be getting random tests much the same as most athletes already do, so am trying to arm myself with as much information as possible.
I run the 800 meters and am setting times of 1 min 47 seconds. Looking around and what everybody else is doing, it is nothing special but i have only been training for a year so am hopeful that i can knock a few seconds off that over time.
Sorry for the unusual question posted, it's that i am really confused: i used to do a lot of running about ten years ago and i found that cardio gains were easy for me to obtain, very easy. I have that kind of freak body type and have had it all my life. I could run street after street and not even begin to get out of breath. I could put my foot down on the accelerator and at the end of it all not even begin to feel tired.
But now gains are slow and dragging, by body feels unresponsive and sluggish compared to years ago. So am thinking perhaps i am eating wrong, taking the wrong supplements, but as ten years have passed i can't remember what i was doing then that i am not doing now.
I'm thinking that if i can run 1:47 now, what can i get that time down to if i can just figure out what i am doing wrong, why is my body being sluggish.