JesterBOB
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Do you have heaviness after eating meat if you do not eat vegetables? Do you eat fiber?
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Fruit and Veg. Are you getting enough?
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Ironically, our favourite human meat choices are all grass chewers/vegetarian/plant and seed consumers.
Veggies and fruits are a decent part of my diet and that includes leafy greens. Good to have balance and feeling the better of for it.
And don't forget the eggs and milk!
And don't forget the eggs and milk!
Fattyone
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Idk about heaviness.. usually feel full after eating but haven’t noticed anything it’s than that. I don’t take any fiber supplements.
I eat 1cup of steel cut oats every morning. I also forgot I mix a cup of mixed berries in with that, so apparently I do eat fruit everyday. I make it on autopilot and totally forgot
I'm vegan and cutting atm. I cut the rice out of my lunch and eat about a lb of assorted cooked veggies and mushrooms for lunch most days during the work week. Costs me all of $6. I also eat curried seitan with it and drink soy milk/a pea & brown rice protein shake/tofu skins and tofu (one of the three options).
Eating more veggies is amazing for you and your gut flora, and linked to longer life expectancy and reduced heart disease risk. I used to be team meat and dairy and got pissed off when I had to have vegetarian meals, let alone vegan ones. Never thought I'd go vegan at 40. Even when I wasn't vegan I felt weird when I didn't get veggies down with my chicken/beef/pork. Fortunately people eat a lot of veggies out here so cooked options are always cheap and accessible.
Eating more veggies is amazing for you and your gut flora, and linked to longer life expectancy and reduced heart disease risk. I used to be team meat and dairy and got pissed off when I had to have vegetarian meals, let alone vegan ones. Never thought I'd go vegan at 40. Even when I wasn't vegan I felt weird when I didn't get veggies down with my chicken/beef/pork. Fortunately people eat a lot of veggies out here so cooked options are always cheap and accessible.
I don't see us just eating meat as our ancestors would have acquired knowledge of edible plants and it's a lot easier to gather up plants than trying to hunt or fish if you have edible plants.
The problems we see today is all the refined foods stripped of nutrients.
Nowhere in nature will you find combinations of fat and sugar in the proportions that you find them in our current junk food menu.
Grasses, tubers, fruits, nuts, seeds, small game and eventually big game when weapons came on the scene. That was our ancestors diets.
It was a fast until you found food situation. The biggest problem we face today in the west is obesity. We are huge as a population and it's a disaster for the healthcare system and the people that have to suffer the pain and misery of all that blubber weighing them down.
My diet when I'm trying to be healthy is lots of green smoothies made with collards, spinach, kale, bananas. I feel fantastic eating as much raw foods as possible. My garden produced tons of broccoli this year that I cut up and froze and the flavor packs a punch unlike that crap in the stores.
Meat of course for me it's usually fish or steam cooked poultry. I rarely eat steak or hamburger anymore because I feel like shit after I eat it. Boiled eggs are good. What I'm trying to do is cook my meat without dry heat or oil, from what I've read with the NIH studies it was shown that carcinogens come from how you cook the meat, not the meat itself. Cooking on the grill is not a good way if you care about your health.
As for meat only diet. I see that as a another fad just like the vegan diet. A well balanced diet with lots of dark leafy greens, legumes, beans, nuts, seeds, and moderate intakes of animal protein and that doesn't have to be everyday. Keeping the grains and cooking oils except perhaps olive oil out of my diet.
And of course water fasting for 24hrs every once awhile would be good for anyone's health, I've found that it actually gives me more energy and my almost 50 year old joints feel a lot better.
The problems we see today is all the refined foods stripped of nutrients.
Nowhere in nature will you find combinations of fat and sugar in the proportions that you find them in our current junk food menu.
Grasses, tubers, fruits, nuts, seeds, small game and eventually big game when weapons came on the scene. That was our ancestors diets.
It was a fast until you found food situation. The biggest problem we face today in the west is obesity. We are huge as a population and it's a disaster for the healthcare system and the people that have to suffer the pain and misery of all that blubber weighing them down.
My diet when I'm trying to be healthy is lots of green smoothies made with collards, spinach, kale, bananas. I feel fantastic eating as much raw foods as possible. My garden produced tons of broccoli this year that I cut up and froze and the flavor packs a punch unlike that crap in the stores.
Meat of course for me it's usually fish or steam cooked poultry. I rarely eat steak or hamburger anymore because I feel like shit after I eat it. Boiled eggs are good. What I'm trying to do is cook my meat without dry heat or oil, from what I've read with the NIH studies it was shown that carcinogens come from how you cook the meat, not the meat itself. Cooking on the grill is not a good way if you care about your health.
As for meat only diet. I see that as a another fad just like the vegan diet. A well balanced diet with lots of dark leafy greens, legumes, beans, nuts, seeds, and moderate intakes of animal protein and that doesn't have to be everyday. Keeping the grains and cooking oils except perhaps olive oil out of my diet.
And of course water fasting for 24hrs every once awhile would be good for anyone's health, I've found that it actually gives me more energy and my almost 50 year old joints feel a lot better.
Good post bro. I especially like your water fasting comment. I raised that topic on another forum (a really small and dumb one) and they tore me a new asshole and made out that I was some sort of fucked up lunatic lol
I'm not raising the water topic on here though. My ass is still a bit sore from the last bashing lol
No one is gonna bash you for water fasting.
Water fasting has been proven to be the fastest way to help with a long list of health problems caused by over consumption.
We were built for fasting, we weren't built to eat 3 times a day as that would have never existed 20,000 years ago. And with our hominid ancestors bones dating back to 9 million years in the past so far, we've had a lot of years to fast and go without food for extended periods. Even the journal of american medicine had a case study where a guy water fasted with some supplements for an entire year to lose hundreds of pounds and the man once he got started it was no problem, his body simply switched to fat as fuel and he was fine and said he could have gone longer.
There's a village in Pakistan where the Hunza people live and they end up fasting 3 months out of the year every year when winter sets in. They eat a diet of mostly fruits and veggies with goats milk. They are mostly poor farmers, live at high altitude in the mountains secluded and they have a good percentage of their people make it to 100+ years, they even have a high number of 115 year olds.
The study of long term fasting is basically autophagy and it's been shown to lower you chance of cancer, alzheimers, parkinsons, reversing degenerative diseases. Your body is basically eating itself, cleaning out degenerative cells and restoring proper function.
Homeostasis.
Some people these days simply don't believe or understand what the human body is capable of under duress.
JesterBOB
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Again, if it is whole grain oatmeal, then there is fiber, as in fruits. I think you just have fiber and it helps digestion well.
JesterBOB
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I didn’t quite understand, do you exclude rice at all, or did I misunderstand you?
JesterBOB
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In addition to the fact that there is a problem of modern nutrition. This is a lot of eating refined foods and where there is a lot of sugar and fat. But as for me, the problem is more complicated, people stopped moving. The problem of lack of activity is the main problem.
I'm not sure that cutting out meat and dairy products is the right way to go. Nutrition should be varied and multi-component and reflect and solve the tasks that a person performs. I think going to extremes is bad.
JesterBOB
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Our body used to be a tool for survival and sustenance. Now we can get in the car and go to the supermarket or order food delivery. Now there is no need to fight for survival and we sat on our asses in offices.
Kids stay active until they reach young adult and are expected to either spend hours in a chair studying or working.
Either way this leads to less and less activity for most people and that ends up with weight gain.
For two decades I biked to work peddling 8 miles each way as fast as possible, used the mountain bike with huge tires during the winter. It kept me slim and trim. Look at a city like Copenhagen where a good portion of the population ride their bikes to work, school and shopping, you don't see the fat asses in their culture. They are a fit society, even if they are a tiny percentage of the people on this planet. I watched a war movie about Copenhagen set back in WW2 and the soldiers had no chance, but they road around on bikes with their guns, it was something interesting to see a culture that simplified their life even if Denmark lost their country for a short while to the Germans.
And of course cycling is quite. When I was young I lived in an apartment on a road with lots of traffic and it sucked ass, the noise drove me up the wall until I had enough money to buy a home and later a different home where I could live on a dead end street.
I'm not against roller blades, roller skates, long boards, they're all good means of transportation that offer tons of exercise. I think those big wheel roller blades are a nice way to get around with a great leg workout and you can take them off and go to work or school without worrying about your bike getting ripped off.
JesterBOB
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Yes, roller skates, scooters and bicycles are a good way to be active. But people tend to reduce activity and movement and the reason for laziness. At one time, there was a fashion for scooters and this is great, but in the end, now everyone has switched to electric scooters. I think soon and electric videos will appear. Modern man lives between two evils, the struggle to eat a lot and the struggle to move little.
I saw the same thing where I live. The electric scooters haul ass, they look like they can hit 30mph on those things.
One Wheels are popular also as I see a lot of them zipping by my house.
The kids when I was young rode their bikes all over the city and jumped fences to skateboard empty pools. I'm not sure kids are interested in anything manual anymore which isn't a good idea for long term health and the balance that develops in a short window during our youth.
Canknucklehead
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I don’t have enough balance or balls to get on one of those electric scooters... LOL 
JesterBOB
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I'm talking about this, it's very sad. The development of technology has both positive and negative. And this is an example of a negative. Children used to have more outdoor games and activities
And what now, games, more precisely cyber games. Anywhere, video set-top box, phone, computer, social networks.
JesterBOB
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Yes, they are worn like half-witted and crazy. A lot of people are knocked down and knocked down. In Europe, electric scooters are already banned in many places in public places.I don’t have enough balance or balls to get on one of those electric scooters... LOL
