Bro i would'nt worry now.But definately do not order to this addy int again.That would be begging to get a knock on your door.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Customs didn’t seize but opened...
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Yeah, I would just say to use a VPN. Honestly even that probably isn't needed in these cases, but it is a layer of protection.
TrennedOutLunatic
Banned
I am checking obsessively 5 times daily at a minimum.
I am not joking.
The delays are to blame...!
I am not joking.
The delays are to blame...!
limitphobic
Member
My concern is that, say they’re monitoring the package and it shows someone checked on it a few days after it was delivered, then they know someone’s probably got it...I understand they couldn’t know WHO for a fact but still helps THEM know somebody looked it up (probably to see what it says). I’ll just check the tracking info using a vpn and see what comes of it (shrugs)... anybody let me know if this is a bad idea thanks
Wait why would you check tracking after it is delivered? I don't understand, there's no reason to do that at all.
The only way they would make any correllation is if they are actively watching for a case, which they aren't doing. It's been delivered for days now, if they wanted to do anythingI am sure they would have done a controlled delivery undercover, not drop it off and leave it.
limitphobic
Member
You have a good point... I’m just curious to see how the tracking info looks. 5 months is the longest I’ve ever heard a pack sitting that still got delivered... thank you for helping me calm tf down a little it’s always good to hear you guys say “Dude. Relax. You’re good.” And I realize I’m in over-panic/over-think mode. Time will be the real solution here. But yeah... I wanna see the tracking progress but if that’s a bad idea then fuck it I’ll just chill out and lay low
You definitely need to relax. The tracking is just gonna say it was delivered, but honestly it won't hurt to check it. Nobody is sitting there waiting for you to check tracking then say "GOTCHA!"
Just chill. You are gonna be fine, nothing is gonna happen. Order domestic next time IMO. It is just way safer
limitphobic
Member
Sound advice.
malfeasance
Member
Checking on tracking absolutely creates evidence, and it is there to be pulled later to be presented in a prosecution. If any of you had read any case law regarding drug cases using the mail for transport (available for free all over the internet), then you would know this.
PS - this applies to domestic, too. Steroids are caught in the system using dogs.
WAIT, you protest, dogs aren't trained to sniff out steroids. And right you would be, but it does not matter. When they pick out your package and put the drug dog on it, the drug dog will hit on it, and then they have their pc to open it. Every judge in the country will rubber stamp that warrant. Once the package is open, they have their evidence, and the fact that the dog is not trained to hit on what is in the package matters not at all.
Then they go check to see who is checking on tracking.
Go read freely available stuff on how drug laws are enforced in this country.
You are not safe ordering steroids through the mail. Period. It is a numbers game, and you are more likely to get caught than you are to hit the lottery. The odds are still in your favor, and you probably will not get caught, but let's stop all of this "they don't enforce the law against personal use order" bullshit. They do. It happens. You can find news stories of it. You can talk to an attorney like Rick Collins about it. You will discover that yes, they are targeting sellers and distributers and manufacturers, but they will not pass you up just because you are a personal user if the evidence is just dropped in their lap.
That is all reality.
And that is why we have rules on a forum like this to keep everybody safe.
PS - this applies to domestic, too. Steroids are caught in the system using dogs.
WAIT, you protest, dogs aren't trained to sniff out steroids. And right you would be, but it does not matter. When they pick out your package and put the drug dog on it, the drug dog will hit on it, and then they have their pc to open it. Every judge in the country will rubber stamp that warrant. Once the package is open, they have their evidence, and the fact that the dog is not trained to hit on what is in the package matters not at all.
Then they go check to see who is checking on tracking.
Go read freely available stuff on how drug laws are enforced in this country.
You are not safe ordering steroids through the mail. Period. It is a numbers game, and you are more likely to get caught than you are to hit the lottery. The odds are still in your favor, and you probably will not get caught, but let's stop all of this "they don't enforce the law against personal use order" bullshit. They do. It happens. You can find news stories of it. You can talk to an attorney like Rick Collins about it. You will discover that yes, they are targeting sellers and distributers and manufacturers, but they will not pass you up just because you are a personal user if the evidence is just dropped in their lap.
That is all reality.
And that is why we have rules on a forum like this to keep everybody safe.
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malfeasance
Member
With all of that having been said, you definitely need to relax. Your stuff was delivered. You have not been contacted by law enforcement or arrested. There is nothing to worry about at this point.
Had this been a case, they would have delivered it to you and contacted you right then and either attempted to question you or simply arrested you if they thought they already had enough evidence. And you would not have your stuff. They don't let the buyer keep it for a couple weeks then go arrest him. The probable cause would disappear at that point, because there would be no reason to think that person is still in possession of the contraband.
So relax.
limitphobic
Member
It’s hard to argue with your logic (nods in approval). And I like how we meet eye to eye on the tracking stuff. that was my guess... it could be incriminating. It’s like saying “package received!” I also appreciate you pragmatic view on how they’d use dogs to create false pc just to get the warrant that is very realistic. Like they play by the rules? So I guess I’ll open the pack (again lol I taped it back up the way it came to disguise it like I never opened it lol then wrote “return to sender” for good measure lmfao)
edit: I’ll wait lmfao
@malfeasance gave all the details already so I will just say:
This happened 2 me twice in 2 years (USPS).
First time they opened a package full of pills etc and simply repacked it with a lovely form letter from the postal inspector about the dangers of using overseas pharmacies (AShop was *not* a pharmacy).
2nd time was for 2 cases of beer from England (no, seriously). Literally gave me a seizure letter, then delivered the cases 2 weeks later.
In the end, it is a bunch of government employees. With all the wild variance in competence and give-a-shit that implies.
This happened 2 me twice in 2 years (USPS).
First time they opened a package full of pills etc and simply repacked it with a lovely form letter from the postal inspector about the dangers of using overseas pharmacies (AShop was *not* a pharmacy).
2nd time was for 2 cases of beer from England (no, seriously). Literally gave me a seizure letter, then delivered the cases 2 weeks later.
In the end, it is a bunch of government employees. With all the wild variance in competence and give-a-shit that implies.
limitphobic
Member
Update: not in prison lol
edit: anyone having read the full story... do you think it’s safe(ish) to have domestic delivered to the same address?
edit: anyone having read the full story... do you think it’s safe(ish) to have domestic delivered to the same address?
I had a couple packs seized back in the day.Never ordered int again.But never had a problem domestic to same addy.Im not saying it's safe just offering my experience.Then ORD hit and shit hit the fan.
limitphobic
Member
ORD meaning...
Operation Raw Deal
limitphobic
Member
I think I get it... it means LE?...
Craziest shit ever.Everything went silent.Alot of great sources went down.I trashed about a grand of gear when my guy went down.Dark day indeed.
lifter6973
Banned
Damn dude, google it- Major UGL bust across the nation many moons ago. I believe all were getting their raws from China.
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