Biden the hypocrite

[MindlessWork]

Damn right it's about time I get my own section.

Oh hi Sworder good to see ya back again. Hope all this time you been putting in the work and making some gains.

 

[Oldschool]

Oh hi Sworder good to see ya back again. Hope all this time you been putting in the work and making some gains.

It’s ok for your alternate handles though? Lol.

 

[kropotkin]

Sooooo... basically anarchy.

That would be great. The whole country can look like Portland. And I’m sure everyone would live in perfect harmony without those pesky police messing things up.

After the initial every man for themselves looting is done, you’d have roaming tribes out consolidating power. I mean, I like warlords as much as the next guy but some of those dudes are bad people.

Unfortunately man, we’re all greedy motherfuckers and we’d all be out trying to take whatever we can. Wives and girlfriends included. As much as that Mad Max world sounds tempting, it’s not sustainable. That’s the collapse of a civilization.

Not to mention the (- -) chinaman is watching and would just invade. Or the dirty fucking Canadians would give up the nice polite guy act and swoop down from the north, eh.

That’s all the time I have Sworder. Commence twisting my words.

The problem is we have gone from "peace keepers" to "law enforcers". A predatory system, one with immunity to kill. This isn't "law and order". The video age has made it possible for us to collect thousands of videos for our viewing pleasure to see just how corrupt those in charge are.

Surely those on Meso question the need for a militarized police. It's one thing to have a sheriff drive by and wave or swoop in to help. It's another to have fuckers pulling people over all day long, false alerting with a dog, searching and in many cases planting drugs to boost performance reports.

Most of this "law and order" stuff is nothing more then some form of revenue collection, either tickets or seizing property. It's no longer about keeping you safe, it's about how they can fuck you over and get what they want(not unlike a gang shaking you down). As long as they need revenue there will be more revenue collectors on the street even though crime, especially violent crime is at an all time low.

If you kick in the door on someone who's sleeping, minding their own business, at home with no one that is being harmed and you empty your magazine into her, I fail to see how this is keeping me safe.

If I have a get together with a group of people out in the middle of nowhere, none of us have phones, it's just us and nature. Why is it that we don't turn on each other, why aren't we killing and raping each other. Maybe because deep down we're not as evil as those in authority think we are. Maybe it's because the ruling class want to keep us in line so we don't question why they set up a police state that seems to fuck those on the bottom in the ass.

Kings and Queens used to meet back in the 1800's in Europe to form private police forces to protect them from the people, they didn't give a shit about the people, they just wanted to continue their ability to rule and live a life far removed from the concerns of the average man. yes there were people that wanted to kill these rulers, but can you blame them? You give these rulers the right to take your life, they might have acknowledged you did nothing, but they have to make an example of you and for that you must have your head chopped off.......that's where we came from, that's why we have people in this country.

We are supposed to be against authority, not lovers of chaos, but against those that would assume power and wield that against his fellow men.

So sure you can have a group of people that protect others, look out for people, but you shouldn't tolerate a system that preys, and most certainly shouldn't cheer authority, because if you aren't questioning authority, you simply aren't American, your something(maybe a pile of shit), but not American.

 

[kropotkin]

I think Trump and Biden should both watch this video to get their heads on straight about Law, Order and Rioting.....it's not about either or, it's about neither.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

The problem is we have gone from "peace keepers" to "law enforcers". A predatory system, one with immunity to kill. This isn't "law and order". The video age has made it possible for us to collect thousands of videos for our viewing pleasure to see just how corrupt those in charge are.

Surely those on Meso question the need for a militarized police. It's one thing to have a sheriff drive by and wave or swoop in to help. It's another to have fuckers pulling people over all day long, false alerting with a dog, searching and in many cases planting drugs to boost performance reports.

Most of this "law and order" stuff is nothing more then some form of revenue collection, either tickets or seizing property. It's no longer about keeping you safe, it's about how they can fuck you over and get what they want(not unlike a gang shaking you down). As long as they need revenue there will be more revenue collectors on the street even though crime, especially violent crime is at an all time low.

If you kick in the door on someone who's sleeping, minding their own business, at home with no one that is being harmed and you empty your magazine into her, I fail to see how this is keeping me safe.

If I have a get together with a group of people out in the middle of nowhere, none of us have phones, it's just us and nature. Why is it that we don't turn on each other, why aren't we killing and raping each other. Maybe because deep down we're not as evil as those in authority think we are. Maybe it's because the ruling class want to keep us in line so we don't question why they set up a police state that seems to fuck those on the bottom in the ass.

Kings and Queens used to meet back in the 1800's in Europe to form private police forces to protect them from the people, they didn't give a shit about the people, they just wanted to continue their ability to rule and live a life far removed from the concerns of the average man. yes there were people that wanted to kill these rulers, but can you blame them? You give these rulers the right to take your life, they might have acknowledged you did nothing, but they have to make an example of you and for that you must have your head chopped off.......that's where we came from, that's why we have people in this country.

We are supposed to be against authority, not lovers of chaos, but against those that would assume power and wield that against his fellow men.

So sure you can have a group of people that protect others, look out for people, but you shouldn't tolerate a system that preys, and most certainly shouldn't cheer authority, because if you aren't questioning authority, you simply aren't American, your something(maybe a pile of shit), but not American.

I didnt read it.
But it was probably stupid
"Government bad, Orange man bad" type nonsense.

I'm assuming km right

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I know I’m walking into a wall again but what the hell...

The problem is we have gone from "peace keepers" to "law enforcers". A predatory system, one with immunity to kill. This isn't "law and order". The video age has made it possible for us to collect thousands of videos for our viewing pleasure to see just how corrupt those in charge are.

The problem is that there are so many more bad guys that have zero respect for law enforcement. There’s also a very prevalent “victim” attitude. When you have drugs on you, and you swallow your stash of fent-laced heroin, don’t resist arrest and you won’t be thrown to the ground. Just get in the backseat and have them take you to the hospital so you don’t OD.

There are some bad police, just like there are bad chefs, bad doctors, bad truck drivers, and bad examples of any job. Sure, I know, I know, “but cops shoot”. Well bad chefs cause food poisoning, bad doctors leave sponges sewn up inside of you, and bad truck drivers can be up 60 hours on meth and plow into Timmy’s school bus.

If you kick in the door on someone who's sleeping, minding their own business, at home with no one that is being harmed and you empty your magazine into her, I fail to see how this is keeping me safe.

You can kick in the door when you’re serving a warrant and you knock and announce first. Especially when the drug-dealer shoots at you. And if you’re innocent then you should have come outside when they knocked instead of standing behind the guy that’s shooting at cops.

If I have a get together with a group of people out in the middle of nowhere, none of us have phones, it's just us and nature. Why is it that we don't turn on each other, why aren't we killing and raping each other. Maybe because deep down we're not as evil as those in authority think we are. Maybe it's because the ruling class want to keep us in line so we don't question why they set up a police state that seems to fuck those on the bottom in the ass.

Maybe. Because you’re with your friends. You all get along.

But it wasn’t this proven otherwise at Woodstock 1998 (or whenever) - the one at the decommission airbase on hot concrete and the women were raped and anything that could burn was set on fire???


Yep. That’s your idealistic world of no police. You need to present a plan for how that exactly gets implemented. There’s PLENTY of evil people out there.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

I know I’m walking into a wall again but what the hell...



The problem is that there are so many more bad guys that have zero respect for law enforcement. There’s also a very prevalent “victim” attitude. When you have drugs on you, and you swallow your stash of fent-laced heroin, don’t resist arrest and you won’t be thrown to the ground. Just get in the backseat and have them take you to the hospital so you don’t OD.

There are some bad police, just like there are bad chefs, bad doctors, bad truck drivers, and bad examples of any job. Sure, I know, I know, “but cops shoot”. Well bad chefs cause food poisoning, bad doctors leave sponges sewn up inside of you, and bad truck drivers can be up 60 hours on meth and plow into Timmy’s school bus.



You can kick in the door when you’re serving a warrant and you knock and announce first. Especially when the drug-dealer shoots at you. And if you’re innocent then you should have come outside when they knocked instead of standing behind the guy that’s shooting at cops.



Maybe. Because you’re with your friends. You all get along.

But it wasn’t this proven otherwise at Woodstock 1998 (or whenever) - the one at the decommission airbase on hot concrete and the women were raped and anything that could burn was set on fire???


Yep. That’s your idealistic world of no police. You need to present a plan for how that exactly gets implemented. There’s PLENTY of evil people out there.

Dont bother
It's all just theory for this guy.

There are q lot of bad people... ALOT
Certainly more good than bad.
But there is a thin line protecting the weak from getting fucked up.

But a basement dweller who reads his anarchist/communist manifesto every night before bed... wouldnt understand that.

 

[kropotkin]

I know I’m walking into a wall again but what the hell...



The problem is that there are so many more bad guys that have zero respect for law enforcement. There’s also a very prevalent “victim” attitude. When you have drugs on you, and you swallow your stash of fent-laced heroin, don’t resist arrest and you won’t be thrown to the ground. Just get in the backseat and have them take you to the hospital so you don’t OD.

There are some bad police, just like there are bad chefs, bad doctors, bad truck drivers, and bad examples of any job. Sure, I know, I know, “but cops shoot”. Well bad chefs cause food poisoning, bad doctors leave sponges sewn up inside of you, and bad truck drivers can be up 60 hours on meth and plow into Timmy’s school bus.



You can kick in the door when you’re serving a warrant and you knock and announce first. Especially when the drug-dealer shoots at you. And if you’re innocent then you should have come outside when they knocked instead of standing behind the guy that’s shooting at cops.



Maybe. Because you’re with your friends. You all get along.

But it wasn’t this proven otherwise at Woodstock 1998 (or whenever) - the one at the decommission airbase on hot concrete and the women were raped and anything that could burn was set on fire???


Yep. That’s your idealistic world of no police. You need to present a plan for how that exactly gets implemented. There’s PLENTY of evil people out there.

BBBguy you know the war on drugs is bullshit right?

You know that policing has radically transformed since the early 70's right? Used to be if you were in prison you were a Murderer, Rapist, Robber, Thief or personally attacked someone.

You know that the percentage of incarcerated people has drastically increased since the 1984 crime control act under Reagan, supported by Biden?

Do you believe the state has the right to tell you what you can put in your own body?

What justifies the authority of the state to tell you what you can put in your body. Do you own yourself or not? And if the state owns you how did they come to own you? Did you sign over your rights to this state, did you make a verbal agreement with this state. Can these documents be presented in a court of law by the state to defend their jurisdiction over you?

No you didn't sign your rights over. You didn't sign up to be ruled. They decided what you will do and won't do and the war on drugs is the worst example of this use of force.

That's the problem with people in this country, they have been brainwashed to respect authority, and authority that will turn their gun on you and kill you if they want, they don't give a fuck about you, you are their property.....at least that's what most people believe and cheer on when they support the hero's(more like fuckheads) in blue.

Americans need to be taught from K-12 to critique and criticize authority, not boot lick.

As for violence you do know that cops only directly stop 5% of all violent acts before they are committed. Only 5% of arrests are for violence.

Read your local paper and see who's on the court docket, mine is batting 90% drugs and paraphernalia every week, about 3% violence, 5% robbery and theft.

Most cops spend their time as road pirates, revenue collectors, it has nothing to do with bad guys, it's them fucking with citizens looking for loot to fill their coffers. There's big money in policing, DEA, FBI, ATF, courts, jails and prisons. It's a massive business and it has nothing to do with keeping you safe, if a citizen wants you dead, you're dead, nothing the cops can do about it but find the perp later on. If a cops wants you dead he's protected by qualified immunity, all he has to say is he was scared and had to kill you.

Tell me how this is keeping any of us safe.

 

[kropotkin]

Dont bother
It's all just theory for this guy.

There are q lot of bad people... ALOT
Certainly more good than bad.
But there is a thin line protecting the weak from getting fucked up.

But a basement dweller who reads his anarchist/communist manifesto every night before bed... wouldnt understand that.

I understand that we have been fear mongering in this country ever since we started putting kids on milk cartons back in the early 80's.

24/7 news has created a hysteria for violence that doesn't exist, I often walk through the worst parts of my city at night after midnight for some fresh air after working all day and most people shit their pants that I do this. I get stopped by cops wondering what a white guy is doing out late at night, nobody ever fucks with me(except the cops). It's all bullshit, people are scared of their own shadows these days, bunch of fucking pussies. I grew up running around the worst part of town, homeless, drug addicts, crazies, I felt safer around these people than cops any day of the week.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

BBBguy you know the war on drugs is bullshit right?

You know that policing has radically transformed since the early 70's right? Used to be if you were in prison you were a Murderer, Rapist, Robber, Thief or personally attacked someone.

You know that the percentage of incarcerated people has drastically increased since the 1984 crime control act under Reagan, supported by Biden?

Do you believe the state has the right to tell you what you can put in your own body?

What justifies the authority of the state to tell you what you can put in your body. Do you own yourself or not? And if the state owns you how did they come to own you? Did you sign over your rights to this state, did you make a verbal agreement with this state. Can these documents be presented in a court of law by the state to defend their jurisdiction over you?

No you didn't sign your rights over. You didn't sign up to be ruled. They decided what you will do and won't do and the war on drugs is the worst example of this use of force.

That's the problem with people in this country, they have been brainwashed to respect authority, and authority that will turn their gun on you and kill you if they want, they don't give a fuck about you, you are their property.....at least that's what most people believe and cheer on when they support the hero's(more like fuckheads) in blue.

Americans need to be taught from K-12 to critique and criticize authority, not boot lick.

As for violence you do know that cops only directly stop 5% of all violent acts before they are committed. Only 5% of arrests are for violence.

Read your local paper and see who's on the court docket, mine is batting 90% drugs and paraphernalia every week, about 3% violence, 5% robbery and theft.

Most cops spend their time as road pirates, revenue collectors, it has nothing to do with bad guys, it's them fucking with citizens looking for loot to fill their coffers. There's big money in policing, DEA, FBI, ATF, courts, jails and prisons. It's a massive business and it has nothing to do with keeping you safe, if a citizen wants you dead, you're dead, nothing the cops can do about it but find the perp later on. If a cops wants you dead he's protected by qualified immunity, all he has to say is he was scared and had to kill you.

Tell me how this is keeping any of us safe.

I agree with about half of what you say in this particular post. Don’t let it go to you head though. You’re way way way too far out there.

The war on drugs is bullshit and an abysmal failure. It’s lead to far more crime.

But you need police and authority, nature doesn’t like a vacuum and something would fill its place. People want power and you either have it or you cling close to someone that does. People want the material objects that others have too, and you either work hard to get it, or you simply go and take it. That will always happen. So you need laws and a way to enforce laws. Otherwise it’s cavemen and clubs.

The world is actually upside down right now. The Republicans typically believe in less government, less regulations, believing that each individual is disciplined enough to abide. The democrats are more government, more regulation, more enforcement to make everyone equal. That’s why these new crazy democrats are disingenuous with “defund the police”. As soon as they take control they’ll flip that fake movement and quadruple the police force. Crazy democrats are lying thru their teeth right now.

 

[MindlessWork]

I agree with about half of what you say in this particular post. Don’t let it go to you head though. You’re way way way too far out there.

The war on drugs is bullshit and an abysmal failure. It’s lead to far more crime.

But you need police and authority, nature doesn’t like a vacuum and something would fill its place. People want power and you either have it or you cling close to someone that does. People want the material objects that others have too, and you either work hard to get it, or you simply go and take it. That will always happen. So you need laws and a way to enforce laws. Otherwise it’s cavemen and clubs.

The world is actually upside down right now. The Republicans typically believe in less government, less regulations, believing that each individual is disciplined enough to abide. The democrats are more government, more regulation, more enforcement to make everyone equal. That’s why these new crazy democrats are disingenuous with “defund the police”. As soon as they take control they’ll flip that fake movement and quadruple the police force. Crazy democrats are lying thru their teeth right now.

I do agree the war on drugs has gone far enough and not really helping stem the demand for cocaine, heroin, meth and all those other hard drugs. Time to end it and come up with a program that helps addicts get clean, which should reduce demand.

As for "defunding the police" Joe Biden has come out not supporting that crazy idea, but there will be nuts who think that'll happen.

 

[kropotkin]

I agree with about half of what you say in this particular post. Don’t let it go to you head though. You’re way way way too far out there.

The war on drugs is bullshit and an abysmal failure. It’s lead to far more crime.

But you need police and authority, nature doesn’t like a vacuum and something would fill its place. People want power and you either have it or you cling close to someone that does. People want the material objects that others have too, and you either work hard to get it, or you simply go and take it. That will always happen. So you need laws and a way to enforce laws. Otherwise it’s cavemen and clubs.

The world is actually upside down right now. The Republicans typically believe in less government, less regulations, believing that each individual is disciplined enough to abide. The democrats are more government, more regulation, more enforcement to make everyone equal. That’s why these new crazy democrats are disingenuous with “defund the police”. As soon as they take control they’ll flip that fake movement and quadruple the police force. Crazy democrats are lying thru their teeth right now.

I'm not right or left, I see both as dangerous and history has proven this over and over, especially the last 150 years.

The problem with the right is social conservationism. While they talk a big game of limited government, they love police and military, men with guns to control the public. Only problem is the military has shown itself not to be trustworthy enough to turn on and kill citizens, so they militarized the police because they know these motherfuckers will kill us if given the order without hesitation.

The left is the only ones among the mainstream right now that are actually talking about ending the war on drugs. Libertarians have always been against the war since it started, but the Republicans are full on for this war, Trump has embraced the Nixon stance on drugs.....stick it to the hippies and nigg#rs.

I've had problems with crime in my life, damage to my property, disputes with people, arguments. In every case the cops made it worse, they caused more problems then they fixed. Every time I hear someone say to call the cops I immediately tell them to stop and explain that cops aren't our friends, they're our enemies and they'll fuck you over if they can. You're always better off just dealing with your own problems.

The truth is most of us men have little risk to our well being, policing exists to arrest men. They are here to serve women and children while filling prisons full of men. I've never felt like I was in danger walking down the street and I've walked downtown Chicago after Midnight by myself with bums, drug addicts hitting me up for money, if they wanted to kill me they could have and the cops couldn't have done nothing about it.

 

[kropotkin]

I do agree the war on drugs has gone far enough and not really helping stem the demand for cocaine, heroin, meth and all those other hard drugs. Time to end it and come up with a program that helps addicts get clean, which should reduce demand.

As for "defunding the police" Joe Biden has come out not supporting that crazy idea, but there will be nuts who think that'll happen.

We should be defunding police and rolling it back to only deal with violent crime.

If 5% of arrests are for violence.

If 52% of people in prison are in for non-violent drug arrests.

If you're fiscal conservative and I am, then you acknowledge this huge waste of resources.

I'm for privatizing everything. Police. Education. Healthcare, because these are massive wastes of our resources. They can't help themselves, it's mind boggling the amounts of resources that are being pissed away on this bullshit.

When I buy a house, gut it and fix it up for rental properties and work my ass off 12-15hrs a day. This is real work, there's something to show for this work, but you invest billions in policing and what do you have to show for it. It's one thing if a guy is out in the street with a jackhammer fixing our roads, but some pig sitting in a car with a radar gun.....fuck that, this shit needs to end, that piggy can get a real job and earn his keep.

Bullshit jobs are at the top of my list of needed cuts. We have jobs on the bottom that need to be eliminated so we can use this labor to build our nation, we have huge numbers of service jobs that need to be cut so these people can do something of benefit and we have huge numbers of government jobs that need to disappear quick.

It's simple take the gun out of the cops hand and replace it with a shovel, welding torch, or some other tool, make him useful.

 

[Oldschool]

It's simple take the gun out of the cops hand and replace it with a shovel, welding torch, or some other tool, make him useful.

Lol. Why don’t you do the same to your fucking friends/neighbors and see what happens? Take their fucking food stamps away and give them a tool to feed themselves. You are a great example of what is wrong with America today. Hate it but aren’t man enough to leave. Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit.

 

[Oldschool]

We should be defunding police and rolling it back to only deal with violent crime.

If 5% of arrests are for violence.

If 52% of people in prison are in for non-violent drug arrests.

If you're fiscal conservative and I am, then you acknowledge this huge waste of resources.

I'm for privatizing everything. Police. Education. Healthcare, because these are massive wastes of our resources. They can't help themselves, it's mind boggling the amounts of resources that are being pissed away on this bullshit.

When I buy a house, gut it and fix it up for rental properties and work my ass off 12-15hrs a day. This is real work, there's something to show for this work, but you invest billions in policing and what do you have to show for it. It's one thing if a guy is out in the street with a jackhammer fixing our roads, but some pig sitting in a car with a radar gun.....fuck that, this shit needs to end, that piggy can get a real job and earn his keep.

Bullshit jobs are at the top of my list of needed cuts. We have jobs on the bottom that need to be eliminated so we can use this labor to build our nation, we have huge numbers of service jobs that need to be cut so these people can do something of benefit and we have huge numbers of government jobs that need to disappear quick.

It's simple take the gun out of the cops hand and replace it with a shovel, welding torch, or some other tool, make him useful.

And you don’t weld with a torch you cunt. Lol. You cut with it. Fucking village idiot. Quit talking out of your cum dumpster.

 

[heady muscle]

And you don’t weld with a torch you cunt. Lol. You cut with it. Fucking village idiot. Quit talking out of your cum dumpster.

You cannot weld with a torch? Really? and how long have been a welder? Before there was mig, tig and arch, how do you suppose people welded?

Its all on how you set the O2 and acetylene and having the proper torch tip. Yes you can cut easy with a torch, but you can weld also.

Man, you the most flippant, least factual poster on MESO i have read in a while. Please keep entertaining everyone with your preschool tactics. I am sure you will garner more likes and fullfill your pathetic, lonely lost life.

 

[Oldschool]

You cannot weld with a torch? Really? and how long have been a welder? Before there was mig, tig and arch, how do you suppose people welded?

Its all on how you set the O2 and acetylene and having the proper torch tip. Yes you can cut easy with a torch, but you can weld also.

Man, you the most flippant, least factual poster on MESO i have read in a while. Please keep entertaining everyone with your preschool tactics. I am sure you will garner more likes and fullfill your pathetic, lonely lost life.

You know damn well that ignorant mother fucker wasn’t talking in the terms you are. Lol. Go ahead and defend sworder in the name of Biden. Fucking idiot.

 

[Oldschool]

You cannot weld with a torch? Really? and how long have been a welder? Before there was mig, tig and arch, how do you suppose people welded?

Its all on how you set the O2 and acetylene and having the proper torch tip. Yes you can cut easy with a torch, but you can weld also.

Man, you the most flippant, least factual poster on MESO i have read in a while. Please keep entertaining everyone with your preschool tactics. I am sure you will garner more likes and fullfill your pathetic, lonely lost life.

And where have I not posted factually? Call seniority on me because of your 2014 join date but you can suck these nuts just as fast as a newb old man. Lol.
You may be referring to soldering? Lol. Fucking ignorant cunt.

 

[heady muscle]

You know damn well that ignorant mother fucker wasn’t talking in the terms you are. Lol. Go ahead and defend sworder in the name of Biden. Fucking idiot.

And where have I not posted factually? Call seniority on me because of your 2014 join date but you can suck these nuts just as fast as a newb old man. Lol.
You may be referring to soldering? Lol. Fucking ignorant cunt.

You would not use O2/acetylene for soldering. You can use Acetylene/ propane (MAPP) or propane. You can braze copper using Acetylene though. And I'm the idiot? Lol.
Biden is half dead clown and Trump has an inferiority complex because mommy took his tit away to young and daddy was overbearing. Probably kind of like you that's why you are so attracted to him. Most reptilian neanderthal brains follow other knuckle draggers. It cannot be helped.

 

[Oldschool]

You would not use O2/acetylene for soldering. You can use Acetylene/ propane (MAPP) or propane. You can braze copper using Acetylene though. And I'm the idiot? Lol.
Biden is half dead clown and Trump has an inferiority complex because mommy took his tit away to young and daddy was overbearing. Probably kind of like you that's why you are so attracted to him. Most reptilian neanderthal brains follow other knuckle draggers. It cannot be helped.

I’ve used a fucking coat hanger and a standard cutting torch to solder or braze on many occasions. You strike me as a unionized fag that can’t work more than two hours without a break. Or complain that the wind is blowing or the equipment isn’t right. Bla bla bla. Fuck off.