Time for TRT?

[kosp]

I might be mistaken, but I think he’s getting up there in age. And quite frankly, between you and me, I think he might have did those drugs called the steroids....

Yeah I can see that, but in what way? Like B&C? Like no proper amount of time off all along the years? Like super heavy cycles?

All this matters, unless you don't give a fuck and don't mind being on TRT forever, which I don't think it's the best option.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Yeah I can see that, but in what way? Like B&C? Like no proper amount of time off all along the years? Like super heavy cycles?

All this matters, unless you don't give a fuck and don't mind being on TRT forever, which I don't think it's the best option.

Man, you make it sound like we’re all retarded meatheads throwing drugs at shit. Do you really understand how this works? It’s not necessarily from PED abuse.

[emoji2369] when you’re 20 then TRT for life isn’t the best option. No shit. But when you’re in your 40s like I am it’s the only option. To me, it was only my levels declining with age. Simple as that and you might be surprised to learn that’s the reason for 99.99% of men that are on TRT.

Since you gave your opinion doc, maybe educate us on why TRT forever isn’t the best option? And why we “don’t give a fuck”. Being in the normal range is normal whether it’s endogenous or exogenous Test. It’s healthy.

 

[hurricane]

Man, you make it sound like we’re all retarded meatheads throwing drugs at shit. Do you really understand how this works? It’s not necessarily from PED abuse.

[emoji2369] when you’re 20 then TRT for life isn’t the best option. No shit. But when you’re in your 40s like I am it’s the only option. To me, it was only my levels declining with age. Simple as that and you might be surprised to learn that’s the reason for 99.99% of men that are on TRT.

Since you gave your opinion doc, maybe educate us on why TRT forever isn’t the best option? And why we “don’t give a fuck”. Being in the normal range is normal whether it’s endogenous or exogenous Test. It’s healthy.

Perfectly stated.
I'm 43 and have zero issues with being on trt for life.
Only ran 7 cycles so i wouldn't say i "abused" AAS.
I got older and have low test. Now I'm dealing with it like many of us.

 

[Dr JIM]

Just got blood work back from PCP and my TT was 246. Normal range 250-1100.
She referred me to a local endocrinologist who i see next week.
My questions are what should i expect? Will i get injections right away?
Will more testing need to be done?
What if he tries to prescribe the cream instead of injections?
Just a little anxious because i want this appt to go well.
Thanks for any and all replies guys.

FYI

 

[kosp]

Man, you make it sound like we’re all retarded meatheads throwing drugs at shit. Do you really understand how this works? It’s not necessarily from PED abuse.

[emoji2369] when you’re 20 then TRT for life isn’t the best option. No shit. But when you’re in your 40s like I am it’s the only option. To me, it was only my levels declining with age. Simple as that and you might be surprised to learn that’s the reason for 99.99% of men that are on TRT.

Since you gave your opinion doc, maybe educate us on why TRT forever isn’t the best option? And why we “don’t give a fuck”. Being in the normal range is normal whether it’s endogenous or exogenous Test. It’s healthy.

So you're pissing me off and then lastly you asked for my opinion. Nice.

In your TRT World where TRT is the ultimate panacea and you have it perfectly justified for yourself and for your conscience like it's the only way, I just think It is an escape which actually can be fixed naturally, and you are focusing too much in something too little in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Dr JIM]

For many TRT is like finding the "right' women believing a specific type, or in this case level, will remedy all that which is not quite right in their life.

The fact is MOST men with "low T" have absolutely no signs or symptoms so the notion one can dial or select a serum level as a means to and ends is not evidence based with few exceptions.

Of course TRT may enhance quality of life for some folk but the benefits often fall short of expectations in spite of levels that exceed age matched controls considerably.

And the occurrence of the latter is so common Ive learned to delay assigning a diagnosis of low T wo conducting a thorough exam, lab studies AND asking about a fellas Family, Psych, Social, Medical and Drug History, etc

JIM

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

So you're pissing me off and then lastly you asked for my opinion. Nice.

In your TRT World where TRT is the ultimate panacea and you have it perfectly justified for yourself and for your conscience like it's the only way, I just think It is an escape which actually can be fixed naturally, and you are focusing too much in something too little in the grand scheme of things.

You got pissed off? Geez, sorry bro. If you started getting mad why didn’t you simply stop reading? Was it wort h it.

Look, I don’t know if it’s an escape or not. I get annual physicals for work and I watched my testosterone decline. When I turned 40 I asked my PCP about it and we discussed TRT. I didn’t give it all that much thought other than I feel better and my quality of life seems better. I’m not looking to be sitting in a nursing home with dementia in my 80s. There’s quantity of life and there’s quality of life. I would prefer to live good years and forego the bad ones. Give it 20 years and see how you change your mind.

 

[hurricane]

FYI

Great to see you around Doc.
And as always thank you for the information.
We are being as safe and conservative as we can be.
I'm feeling well and libido has increased. Interested to see what my blood work will look like in 2 weeks.

 

[kosp]

You got pissed off? Geez, sorry bro. If you started getting mad why didn’t you simply stop reading? Was it wort h it.

Look, I don’t know if it’s an escape or not. I get annual physicals for work and I watched my testosterone decline. When I turned 40 I asked my PCP about it and we discussed TRT. I didn’t give it all that much thought other than I feel better and my quality of life seems better. I’m not looking to be sitting in a nursing home with dementia in my 80s. There’s quantity of life and there’s quality of life. I would prefer to live good years and forego the bad ones. Give it 20 years and see how you change your mind.

Nah it's all good man.

Yes, let's see in 20 years

 

[Deleted member 59947]

what did you do to get so low level?

Lol, just check the forum name

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Yeah I can see that, but in what way? Like B&C? Like no proper amount of time off all along the years? Like super heavy cycles?

All this matters, unless you don't give a fuck and don't mind being on TRT forever, which I don't think it's the best option.

I was low T before I touched any AAS so I started because I had fuck all to lose.
You sound like you just discovered a condition called hypogonadism

 

[kosp]

I was low T before I touched any AAS so I started because I had fuck all to lose.
You sound like you just discovered a condition called hypogonadism

Oh so sorry for your condition, do you want a medal or what?

You better come with something more original, not just with the same that bigbaldbeardguy said, like a repeating monkey.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Oh so sorry for your condition, do you want a medal or what?

You better come with something more original, not just with the same that bigbaldbeardguy said, like a repeating monkey.

As a 25 year old you know it all. You’re entitled to be a total douchebag. The world owes it to you.

Know that it comes to an end though. A lot of 20 year olds have a hard time coming to terms with that. You have an awful lot of anger for someone that describes himself as a “Greek god”. If that were truly the case you would be happy and wouldn’t feel the need to come on an anonymous forum to battle people. You’d be secure and spread positivity.

You obviously have a lot of underlying issues that make you a negative person. I hope some day you find shit that makes you happy. It would be a waste of life otherwise.

 

[kosp]

As a 25 year old you know it all. You’re entitled to be a total douchebag. The world owes it to you.

Know that it comes to an end though. A lot of 20 year olds have a hard time coming to terms with that. You have an awful lot of anger for someone that describes himself as a “Greek god”. If that were truly the case you would be happy and wouldn’t feel the need to come on an anonymous forum to battle people. You’d be secure and spread positivity.

You obviously have a lot of underlying issues that make you a negative person. I hope some day you find shit that makes you happy. It would be a waste of life otherwise.

haha, you have put a lot of thought in it, such a waste, I don´t care what you think of me.

You are clearly misjudging and probably just talking to your younger self. Good luck.

 

[kosp]

It´s curious the attitude of many older men towards younger ones, It´s like craving the precious youth that they don´t have anymore, instead of accepting themselves whatever the fuck age is.

Anyway, I know closely a 50s years old man, dad of a friend, who claims to be in the best moment of his life, so stop crying and start living.

The best moment of your life is always now, because there is no other one, and why strive for less than the best?

Sorry if I was offensive, didn´t actually mean to hurt anyone, just defending myself from being called stupid under the same argument which I don´t share.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Sorry if I was offensive, didn´t actually mean to hurt anyone, just defending myself from being called stupid under the same argument which I don´t share.

Where did anyone call you stupid???

It’s not there.

 

[kosp]

I think he might have did those drugs called the steroids....

Lol, just check the forum name

here you go, making it obviously stupid

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

here you go, making it obviously stupid

[emoji2357] You connected those dots man. No one called you stupid. It’s a discussion. You need to calm down and don’t take shit so defensive. It’s an anonymous forum. I don’t know you and you don’t know me. You SAY you don’t give a fuck what people think, yet you infer we thought you were stupid.

 

[kosp]

[emoji2357] You connected those dots man. No one called you stupid. It’s a discussion. You need to calm down and don’t take shit so defensive. It’s an anonymous forum. I don’t know you and you don’t know me. You SAY you don’t give a fuck what people think, yet you infer we thought you were stupid.

come on man, be straightforward, you are calling me stupid again, in a smarter way, so it´s even worse lol. It´s funny and shit, you here guys fuck with each other a lot, I would have done the same.

Maybe I overreacted.

 

[RunTrenFckTens]

[emoji2357] You connected those dots man. No one called you stupid. It’s a discussion. You need to calm down and don’t take shit so defensive. It’s an anonymous forum. I don’t know you and you don’t know me. You SAY you don’t give a fuck what people think, yet you infer we thought you were stupid.

Kinda sounds like he has fragile masculinity, always thinking he's being attacked. He needs to defend his natural T levels, god forbid when he gets older he may need TRT.