Has there ever been a pro that didn't rely on many drugs to obtain his physique?

[GymRat79]

We got two different kinds of bodybuilders..........

The guys who are genetically gifted an then the ones who are not nearly as much.

For the ones that were given the gift of gaining results without the use of multiple anabolic steroids, anyone can name who they are?

We all know that yes to get to the Olympia stage in any division you have to use gear. But has there ever been a guy who claimed to be more natural than his competition through the years?

 

[JackSmooth]

To answer that question you'd have to be the man competing himself. The answers to your questions aren't usually given up or the info given is false.

 

[H Tee labz]

But has there ever been a guy who claimed to be more natural than his competition through the years

All of them claim to take less AAS than their competition. You have people in Olympia who claim all the took was a little dbol

 

[rutman]

Ronnie Coleman turned pro as a natural

 

[JC456]

Couple of things:

The guys who are genetically gifted an then the ones who are not nearly as much.

For the ones that were given the gift of gaining results without the use of multiple anabolic steroids, anyone can name who they are?

Firstly genetics can be many things, response to gear is genetic which throws your comparison for a loop.

Secondly what is claimed and what really happened often don't match.

Think about it like this. You're a competitive but middle of the pack bodybuilder who takes 5g of gear in the off-season. All of your competitors take 8g. You don't want to push to 8g despite having no ill health... So you accept middle of the pack, less prize money, less recognition... THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN! YOU'D TAKE THE EXTRA GEAR!

Do you really think there are any competitive bodybuilders who don't push the boundaries of gear use, despite that being their livelihood and their passion? Fuck no! Of course they'll push it.

Take as many drugs as possible till your health shits out, have the best genetics ever and you have your Colemans and your Heaths of the world. That's modern bodybuilding.

You could maybe argue the last time bodybuilders compromised on dose was in Haneys era, Shawn Ray, Labrada etc but then Yates came and shit all over that era! That was the end of it.

 

[Ironlord]

Well said @JC456...

Even guys that compete in "natural" federations are rarely natty..

I know a couple, one who actually decided he wanted more and geared up to go train with Meadows..

 

[Wunderpus]

We got two different kinds of bodybuilders..........

The guys who are genetically gifted an then the ones who are not nearly as much.

For the ones that were given the gift of gaining results without the use of multiple anabolic steroids, anyone can name who they are?

We all know that yes to get to the Olympia stage in any division you have to use gear. But has there ever been a guy who claimed to be more natural than his competition through the years?

You're missing the point.... The high level pro's don't depend on gear, they are a combination of hard work, smart training, insane genetics and wise drug usage. Without those factors you don't reach high level pro status, period. Not one just got there based on drugs alone, regardless of how much they took.

 

[Ironlord]

You're missing the point.... The high level pro's don't depend on gear, they are a combination of hard work, smart training, insane genetics and wise drug usage. Without those factors you don't reach high level pro status, period. Not one just got there based on drugs alone, regardless of how much they took.

Truth. All the drugs in the world can't help bad genetics and a shit work ethic..

 

[GymRat79]

You're missing the point.... The high level pro's don't depend on gear, they are a combination of hard work, smart training, insane genetics and wise drug usage. Without those factors you don't reach high level pro status, period. Not one just got there based on drugs alone, regardless of how much they took.

Plus they work with the best coaches.

 

[SDbronco]

Ronnie Coleman turned pro as a natural

He was also arrested for lying to a LEO during a routine traffic stop in which he attempted to falsely impersonate a police officer in a department he did not work for in a somewhat wierd and sad attempt to buddy buddy his way out of a rather inexpensive traffic ticket from another officer.

I'm sure this guy spent tens of thousands if not more on a single contest prep but he tried to lie his way out of a citation. The same Ronnie Coleman swore an oath under God and the state to uphold the law as he once was a police officer and I think even a sheriff at one point.

If he is willing to break the oath he made to God and the state (he is an outspoken Christian, so it's kind of a big deal unless he is also lying about his religious stance as well.

He was the very first and only guy who has ever been fabled to have earned pro status And prepped his first appearance also as a pro & natty. He also placed dead last at that show. Very last. If I took a gram of test, tren, and winny and placed dead last I'd probably say I was natural too.

Source: He, his self, And him

Before he started this rumor about himself he also said something along the lines of...

Ronnie: Sup homedawg you working hard or hardly workin?

Officer: (Aka a Stranger) "License and registration please....keep your hands on the steering wheel were I can see them".

Ronnie: Yeeaaaaaah Buuddy!!! No problem! Dat dere is my license sitting next to that cell tech over dere. What seems to be the problem today officer?

Officer: Was there a reason you decided to go 15 over while driving down a busy city street?

Ronnie: Oh yea buddy I just left the precinct 20 minutes ago I forgot to clock out. Can you just let me hurry back to the station or radio in the boys and ask them to clock me out? Badge number is 545....32..

Officer: Your name is Ronnie Coleman, you are a 5'11 Black male who is bald with no facial hair, 325lbs-335lbs of pure fucking muscle and without a doubt the biggest, meanest, most lean and aesthetic man in the USA and Canada. Im honestly scared that if I don't call for back up now I may leave this scene a victim of rape if I attempt to place you under arrest by myself. If we worked together I think I would have noticed you by now. I am a supervisor.

 

[D-max]

CT Fletcher has never used.

 

[Wunderpus]

CT Fletcher has never used.

LOL, okay. He uses site enhancement oil, but wouldn't touch gear... Is he on his second heart transplant yet? That's not from the gear, right, just genetics?

 

[rutman]

Back 10 years ago, there was a local bodybuilder that placed top 10 at the USA's. There was a big article in the local newspaper about him and his journey. He touted the he was "all natural".... Everybody that knew him gave him hell! He was the areas main supplier of gear at the time.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

This question is an old one. Its just a way for a man to guage his aptitiude with the hopes some body will validate him. Being a "Pro" whether it be a BB, strongman, PL or athlete is all determined by your genetics. Its just up to the individual to realize them to there fullest potential.

Let me put it to you this way. Rosie O freakin Donnell can always put makeup on to make her seem marginally more attractive but nooooooo amount of makeup makes her the hottest woman in the world. The exact same applies to us and our field of endeavor. We can ALL improve. But a 2 isnt ever going to overcome a 7. Not gonna happen.

 

[Rockclimber]

The last natty bodybuilders were from the 50s and early 60s. The physiques they had were very very impressive considering no hormone use and very limited equipment. Hell, they had to clean and press the barbell before they were able to do squats... think about that for a minute.

 

[D-max]

LOL, okay. He uses site enhancement oil, but wouldn't touch gear... Is he on his second heart transplant yet? That's not from the gear, right, just genetics?

Wait, he's got fake arms too? I feel left out of the synthol club. I better get some and start growing mine too.

 

[Wunderpus]

Wait, he's got fake arms too? I feel left out of the synthol club. I better get some and start growing mine too.

I mean, there isn't any real "proof".... But, if you've seen enough PMMA/Synthol you can recognize it's abuse fairly easily.... Obviously I COULD be wrong...

 

[D-max]

I mean, there isn't any real "proof".... But, if you've seen enough PMMA/Synthol you can recognize it's abuse fairly easily.... Obviously I COULD be wrong...

I never really looked close at his arms, was pretty positive he used AAS anyway, just he always swore he didnt lol. But, after you said that I looked at his biceps a lot closer.....theres something odd going on there for sure....

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I never really looked close at his arms, was pretty positive he used AAS anyway, just he always swore he didnt lol. But, after you said that I looked at his biceps a lot closer.....theres something odd going on there for sure....

Agree

 

[LordSamuilo]

The last natty bodybuilders were from the 50s and early 60s. The physiques they had were very very impressive considering no hormone use

That's debatable , exogenous testosterone was synthesized in 35 and ziglar synthesized dianabol in the mid late 50's .. So there options where limited but they definitely had hormone's at there disposal . if you look back at pre 1930 bodybuilders there's a noticable difference in physiques after testosterone was available and the type of physiques changed again in the late 50's and 60's after the introduction of dianabol ... Coincidence ? Maybe but unlikely ...