Blood Results from Ansomone 8iu

[stone988]

Probably... But who the fuck would do that?

You're clueless.

Yea but you answered probably you I guess Im not so clueless> Obviously you might be clueless to the analogy I was making and how IGF can be effected by almost anything. And yes people party and do drugs all the time even BB's so I guess my point went right over your head How about a double bicep picture lets see how you look thanks

 

[stone988]

thought this was interesting

 

[stone988]

So if someone shot 6 ius of hgh every day for 3 months and was on 40 mg of nolva, a graham of test, 50 mg of d ball, also used tren at 300 mg and IGF lr3 at 100 mc, and trainer the Bulgarian method, what should there IGF 1 read? What would a marathon runners IGF 1 be at 3 ius after a month? Can u calculate it so we have a standard to go by.

 

[Just Fish]

So if someone shot 6 ius of hgh every day for 3 months and was on 40 mg of nolva, a graham of test, 50 mg of d ball, also used tren at 300 mg and IGF lr3 at 100 mc, and trainer the Bulgarian method, what should there IGF 1 read? What would a marathon runners IGF 1 be at 3 ius after a month? Can u calculate it so we have a standard to go by.

You are not speaking to inexperienced members here smh
The enhanced athlete lmao

 

[Eman]

Yea but you answered probably you I guess Im not so clueless> Obviously you might be clueless to the analogy I was making and how IGF can be effected by almost anything. And yes people party and do drugs all the time even BB's so I guess my point went right over your head How about a double bicep picture lets see how you look thanks

Sure, people party... But if they are going to pull IGF bloods the following morning they are not going to get an accurate representation of their IGF levels.

Testosterone levels fluctuate too... Is is worthless to pull them? Not really.

I said you were clueless because you're arguing your point in one sentence and then saying you don't know in the next... Now you're citing enhanced athlete videos and asking me to pose for you to make sure my points are valid... GTFO. Stop spreading your broscience.

 

[Just Fish]

thought this was interesting

Growth hormone fluctuates way more than igf. Growth hormone is released in pulses. You could do bloodwork on gh hours apart from one another and receive completely different results. That is why testing igf is more accurate. The bloodwork in that video you posted actually proves that. His gh was in mid range and his igf was double the upper range. Do you know why that is? Lol

 

[mands]

So if someone shot 6 ius of hgh every day for 3 months and was on 40 mg of nolva, a graham of test, 50 mg of d ball, also used tren at 300 mg and IGF lr3 at 100 mc, and trainer the Bulgarian method, what should there IGF 1 read? What would a marathon runners IGF 1 be at 3 ius after a month? Can u calculate it so we have a standard to go by.

If there IGF-1 levels are 100 even taken that plus metformin your GH is bunk.

Rule of thumb for most and not your hypothetical bull crap you are trying to make a minute point is 100 per iu. When you are around the 5-6 iu mark and over and it drops to around a 50 increase per iu from what I've seen.

I'm still waiting for a reply to my earlier post.

mands

 

[stone988]

Who said to get an IGF-1 test after 3 hours?

Gold standard? Your article states right in BOLD it's a crude way to determine GH potency.

You are on the right track with the 5 year old article but running your GH for a length of time(controversial by some)around 1 week is sufficient to check blood levels. Always get pre-gh use first so you can compare.

Your correct IGF-1 is not the most effective and GH serum is certainly not. AAA analysis and Mass Spec/hplc is the only true way to find out if it is GH, it's purity and concentration.

So tell me this... How do you know if your GH is raising IGF-1 levels if you don't test them? This is why you are taking GH correct?

mands

Actually I take HGH for a few reasons, being older I want the anti aging benefits from it, the joint healing and skin benefits, plus the fat burning aspect of it. Secondly the IGF benefit, which is just as important for "new muscle growth" I was never a fan of any blood tests, plenty of good bloods and people still look like dog shit, even test levels. If im shooting HGH im going to test for HGH. Not going to argue its just not rational in my view and experience, you can shoot bunk and still have decent IGF1 levels, and have zero hgh serum. Anyhow I am glad I got all the opinions and experience from all of you. At the end of the day I am hear to help and learn.

 

[stone988]

Growth hormone fluctuates way more than igf. Growth hormone is released in pulses. You could do bloodwork on gh hours apart from one another and receive completely different results. That is why testing igf is more accurate. The bloodwork in that video you posted actually proves that. His gh was in mid range and his igf was double the upper range. Do you know why that is? Lol

If you blast 10ius of good shit a pulse means nothing, Not going to argue and just posted that info thought it was interesting, funny how both of the guys in the video are like triple your size lmao

 

[stone988]

@ Eman GTFO. Stop spreading your broscience.
lol Yes good old bro science. Not defending my opinion here on hgh but on a different note, if it weren't for your so called Broscience no one would be big and doing gear. Most of you don't know or weren't around for the total utter bullshit the "Medical Community" preached as gospel about Gear, weight training, and diet.
They said steroids gave no increased athletic performance, lmfao ok they where 100% wrong
They said weight training would hurt athletic performance,make you muscle bound! wrong again!
They said you could make the same and better gains naturally, oh boy really wrong!
They said all you needed was basic calisthenics, pushups sit ups, ect lmao
They said 3 meals is all you need to build muscle less then 100gs of protein. ha they still do!
Funny how all the pencil neck 150lbs dorks or fat fucks, in the gyms back then, even up until the late 1980's, trainers, doctors, coaches, therapists, gym managers, gym teachers, school teachers at a university level and any tool bag that couldn't get big spewed this nonsense in gyms, locker rooms, side lines team rooms and even on tv and in medical journals. So I take anyone that says Broscience is bs as someone I would never listen to, has a closed mind to obvious evidence, and is 9 times out of 10 someone that dosnt even look like they train. Not saying this applies to you but come on! Ill keep my broscience thank you! Its ironic that the medical community has been in the dark about gear and hgh and is 90% wrong about anything they say. Ill eat my high protein diet, use weights and gear and be the best I can be.

 

[Just Fish]

Yea but you answered probably you I guess Im not so clueless> Obviously you might be clueless to the analogy I was making and how IGF can be effected by almost anything. And yes people party and do drugs all the time even BB's so I guess my point went right over your head How about a double bicep picture lets see how you look thanks

Hold on, that is your weak ass in your avi. You have no business calling people out on double bicep photos. @Eman why didn't you embarrass this dude with a double bicep photo

 

[Eman]

Hold on, that is your weak ass in your avi. You have no business calling people out on double bicep photos. @Eman why didn't you embarrass this dude with a double bicep photo

I'm not into dick measuring contests... Guys that call on you to post photos to validate yourself are weak minded.

 

[mands]

BROSCIENCE-

Broscience is the predominant brand of reasoning in bodybuilding circles where the anecdotal reports of jacked dudes are considered more credible than scientific research.

Broscience in action:

"Bro, you gotta slam 40-60 grams of waxy maize plus 20 grams of BCAA within 7 seconds of finishing your last set of squat rack curls. Otherwise, you'll go straight catabolic."

mands

 

[Hotrods12]

BROSCIENCE-

Broscience is the predominant brand of reasoning in bodybuilding circles where the anecdotal reports of jacked dudes are considered more credible than scientific research.

Broscience in action:

"Bro, you gotta slam 40-60 grams of waxy maize plus 20 grams of BCAA within 7 seconds of finishing your last set of squat rack curls. Otherwise, you'll go straight catabolic."

mands

Broscience is why there is so many unedcated people theses days. Do more and more research and stop listening to people that have no clue in what they say they do and you will be far better off. There is so much knowledge out there if you look or ask the right people, right Mands

 

[Eman]

@ Eman GTFO. Stop spreading your broscience.
lol Yes good old bro science. Not defending my opinion here on hgh but on a different note, if it weren't for your so called Broscience no one would be big and doing gear. Most of you don't know or weren't around for the total utter bullshit the "Medical Community" preached as gospel about Gear, weight training, and diet.
They said steroids gave no increased athletic performance, lmfao ok they where 100% wrong
They said weight training would hurt athletic performance,make you muscle bound! wrong again!
They said you could make the same and better gains naturally, oh boy really wrong!
They said all you needed was basic calisthenics, pushups sit ups, ect lmao
They said 3 meals is all you need to build muscle less then 100gs of protein. ha they still do!
Funny how all the pencil neck 150lbs dorks or fat fucks, in the gyms back then, even up until the late 1980's, trainers, doctors, coaches, therapists, gym managers, gym teachers, school teachers at a university level and any tool bag that couldn't get big spewed this nonsense in gyms, locker rooms, side lines team rooms and even on tv and in medical journals. So I take anyone that says Broscience is bs as someone I would never listen to, has a closed mind to obvious evidence, and is 9 times out of 10 someone that dosnt even look like they train. Not saying this applies to you but come on! Ill keep my broscience thank you! Its ironic that the medical community has been in the dark about gear and hgh and is 90% wrong about anything they say. Ill eat my high protein diet, use weights and gear and be the best I can be.

I missed this lol... This has to be the most ignorant post I've ever seen on Meso, wow.

Do you believe the Earth is flat too?

 

[mands]

Broscience is why there is so many unedcated people theses days. Do more and more research and stop listening to people that have no clue in what they say they do and you will be far better off. There is so much knowledge out there if you look or ask the right people, right Mands

That's right! Just like fasted cardio. Holy crap if I hear that one more time I'm gonna punch someone in the jugular.

mands

 

[Opti]

That's right! Just like fasted cardio. Holy crap if I hear that one more time I'm gonna punch someone in the jugular.

mands

So I'm assuming you are an advocate of fasted cardio, first thing in the morning, have to be on the treadmill no more than 30m after waking up?

 

[stone988]

Hold on, that is your weak ass in your avi. You have no business calling people out on double bicep photos. @Eman why didn't you embarrass this dude with a double bicep photo

Do you even have legs ? you look like you play tennis lmao Love how some skinny dork talks shit, go eat some real food and do some heavy compound moments for about a decade then spew your dogshit lol My little sister is bigger then you!

 

[stone988]

I'm not into dick measuring contests... Guys that call on you to post photos to validate yourself are weak minded.

You are probably not into training either, another key board warrior, put the x box down and go actually work out. lol

 

[stone988]

I missed this lol... This has to be the most ignorant post I've ever seen on Meso, wow.

Do you believe the Earth is flat too?

Funny how the truth is ignorant to some people. no worries stay small and stupid son!