Clinton In Deep Shit.

[tenpoundsleft]

Turns out they have found new emails. Very damming emails. Secret government information that was sent to a non government person. These 300 emails, it has been confirmed, we're hacked by China, Russia and Israel. When asked if he'll reopen the email case, Jeff sessions said that he would recuse himself because as a senator he was very critical of her. This means he will leave it up to the FBI workers who have been very critical over not charging Clinton for her criminal activity. Looks as if these are the most damming emails to date and looks as if they will go after her. Can't believe there are people's that wanted this felon to be president. Obama has 7 days left to Pardon her. As I'm sure he will.

Wait for the usual suspects to dive in here and start with their Trump harping.

Regarding the Clintons, they only go la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la


Burn that bitch on the stake. Or exile her to her buddies in Russia, that seems appropriate.

 

[ronin17]

Please elaborate ...

Where would you like me to start. They tried to blame her for the embassy getting attacked and not being adequately defended right?

The house cut all state departments defense budget years before that attack. It was never up to her.

The republicans sure tried to make it look like her fault though.

 

[ronin17]

Wait for the usual suspects to dive in here and start with their Trump harping.

Regarding the Clintons, they only go la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la


Burn that bitch on the stake. Or exile her to her buddies in Russia, that seems appropriate.

Burn that bitch at the stake? I dont get it man. Why are guys like you so scared of hillary Clinton? Im guessing because she had bigger balls than you?

 

[GigaloRob]

Where would you like me to start. They tried to blame her for the embassy getting attacked and not being adequately defended right?

The house cut all state departments defense budget years before that attack. It was never up to her.

The republicans sure tried to make it look like her fault though.

If I'm not mistaken she eventually took responsibility since she is technically in charge of the state department's people. For you to act as if she holds no responsibility is being blinded with bias. I wouldn't call it exclusively her fault but you just removed all blame and passed it to the house. At what point does the person in charge in any organization not held in some percentage responsible for failures and mistakes? If one is willing to accept praise for any success of the department they reside over they also must accept responsibility for it's failures.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=71&invol=333 that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment."

So who do i gotta see to get a preemptive pardon?
#purge

 

[heady muscle]

In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=71&invol=333 that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment."

The sad thing is, if this was a regular Joe off the street, they wouldn't see the light of day until their death bed, But if you are rich, you can get away with anything.

 

[ronin17]

If I'm not mistaken she eventually took responsibility since she is technically in charge of the state department's people. For you to act as if she holds no responsibility is being blinded with bias. I wouldn't call it exclusively her fault but you just removed all blame and passed it to the house. At what point does the person in charge in any organization not held in some percentage responsible for failures and mistakes? If one is willing to accept praise for any success of the department they reside over they also must accept responsibility for it's failures.

At what point is she not responsible?
That would be the point where she has zero control on paying for the private contracters. The state department was against the cuts and warned against them.

She wasn't responsible for funding or hiring contracters. Thats not the secretary of states job.

So yes, the house is responsible because they approve the budgets. They were warned against the cuts and they still did it because they truly just dont give a fuck.

As long as tgey can say they are saving the taxpayers money thats all they care about. They dont care who gets hurt in the process unless its thier millionaire donors.

 

[ronin17]

Not only did they try to put the blame on her because they are spineless chicken shits, you better believe they knew she most likely would be running for president.

All staged bullshit. And how many people ate it up? Too many.

 

[GigaloRob]

Not only did they try to put the blame on her because they are spineless chicken shits, you better believe they knew she most likely would be running for president.

All staged bullshit. And how many people ate it up? Too many.

So to summarize, the Secretary of State has zero responsibility for what happens in her department? What you are saying is pure nonsense. Departments,schools,police departments, ect ect all deal with budget cuts. They find ways to deal with them because that is the job of the person in charge. Now you are telling me that security and the safety of state personnel was not part of her job?

So even Hillary accepted some responsibility for it but you @ronin17 are setting the record straight and rebuking her own admission of some responsibility? The ironic thing is that this response from you is not suprising. This is what happens when you live in the echo chamber and have lost any ability to see things objectively. Clinton takes responsibility for the incident but I guess in your world that means she lied because according to you she is not culpable. If I ever need a public relations person when I fuck up you will be the first person I call.

 

[Tj72]

Keep your trash in America and out of Australia. Clowns everywhere in American politics.

Man apart of me is offended by this but it's such a true statement that all you can do is agree....messed up beyond belief

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Keep your trash in America and out of Australia. Clowns everywhere in American politics.

Well, at least we haven't fucked up the country to the point of becoming an oppressive socialist hellhole like Australia. Piss off.

 

[Eman]

So who do i gotta see to get a preemptive pardon?
#purge

If you "neutralize" a certain British intelligence officer, Trump we'll have you pardoned before you even get home. Hell, he'll even let you take a piss on him as a thank you gesture.

The sad thing is, if this was a regular Joe off the street, they wouldn't see the light of day until their death bed, But if you are rich, you can get away with anything.

A lot of pardons are just "regular Joe's off the street" actually. Most pardons are just for non violent drug offenders as far as I know. The rich getting away with everything is pretty true...

I wonder who Trump would pardon, if anyone... He's so wishy washy about his stances it's hard to say. He'll praise someone one minute then condemn them the next. I can't really think of any issues that he hasn't flip flopped on so I can't see him being decisive enough to pardon anyone... He'll spend his time pumping up private prisons, encourage stop and frisk policies and keep our prisons nice and full. Home of the not so free.

Well, at least we haven't fucked up the country to the point of becoming an oppressive socialist hellhole like Australia. Piss off.

Hey, prostitute's are legal in Australia... Show some respect.

 

[ronin17]

So to summarize, the Secretary of State has zero responsibility for what happens in her department? What you are saying is pure nonsense. Departments,schools,police departments, ect ect all deal with budget cuts. They find ways to deal with them because that is the job of the person in charge. Now you are telling me that security and the safety of state personnel was not part of her job?

So even Hillary accepted some responsibility for it but you @ronin17 are setting the record straight and rebuking her own admission of some responsibility? The ironic thing is that this response from you is not suprising. This is what happens when you live in the echo chamber and have lost any ability to see things objectively. Clinton takes responsibility for the incident but I guess in your world that means she lied because according to you she is not culpable. If I ever need a public relations person when I fuck up you will be the first person I call.

Please post where she took responsibility for not having enough funding for the contracters.

I'll wait. You cant because she didnt. You have zero idea how government works. Big surprise. Was she just going to make millions appear out of thin air?

Ill say it again. She had ZERO control over budgets. That is handled by the house. What about that dont you understand @GigaloRob ?

Your argument is akin to blaming obama because the local public works tore up the street in front of tour house.

"Well, he is the person in charge so he bears responsibility!" Um no, thats not how it works. Try putting the blame wear it belongs dude.

There is plenty to not like about clinton without this type of fabricated bullshit.

What will eternally amaze me is how little "some" people care about the truth in these type of situations.

Still waiting for the quote where she took responsibility for not funding the contracters......

 

[ronin17]

@GigaloRob im going to adopt your same logic. Trump is in charge now so he is responsible for everything that happens from here on. Everything. And im going to rub your face in every fucking thing that happens because he is the president and he is responsible for everything.

Sounds foolish dosent it?

 

[XKawN]

The GOP doesn't get to pick and choose where the president or Clinton allocates the money so, no, the GOP did not defund security in benghazi. Here's just a few facts. when I have time i can post more.


State Department Official Charlene Lamb Testified Before The House Oversight Committee That Budget Cuts Had Nothing To Do With Security Decisions In Benghazi. REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R-CA): “It has been suggested the budget cuts are responsible for lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally, was there any budget consideration and lack of budget that led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?” CHARLENE LAMB: “No, sir.” (U.S. House Of Representatives, Oversight And Government Reform Committee


“I Do Not Feel That We Have Ever Been At A Point Where We Have Sacrificed Security Due To Lack Of Funding.” “Robert Baldre, your chief financial officer for diplomatic security, stated, and I quote, ‘I do not feel that we have ever been at a point where we have sacrificed security due to lack of funding,’ Rep. Steven Chabot, Ohio Republican, told Mrs. Clinton.” (Guy Taylor and Shaun Waterman, “Tears And Rage: Clinton Testily Defends Depiction Of Benghazi Events,”


“The RSO should be aware that the requests for expensive security upgrades may be difficult to obtain as headquarters is hesitant to allocate money to a post that may be closing in a few months.”


In 2009, The State Department Spent Nearly $300,000 On Alcohol. “Last year alone, the State Department sent taxpayers tabs totaling nearly $300,000 for alcoholic beverages — about twice as much compared to the previous year, according to an analysis of spending records by The Washington Times.” (Jim McElhatton, “Taxpayers Foot State Department’s Stiff Liquor Bill,”

 

[GigaloRob]

Please post where she took responsibility for not having enough funding for the contracters.

I'll wait. You cant because she didnt. You have zero idea how government works. Big surprise. Was she just going to make millions appear out of thin air?

Ill say it again. She had ZERO control over budgets. That is handled by the house. What about that dont you understand @GigaloRob ?

Your argument is akin to blaming obama because the local public works tore up the street in front of tour house.

"Well, he is the person in charge so he bears responsibility!" Um no, thats not how it works. Try putting the blame wear it belongs dude.

There is plenty to not like about clinton without this type of fabricated bullshit.

What will eternally amaze me is how little "some" people care about the truth in these type of situations.

Still waiting for the quote where she took responsibility for not funding the contracters......

Actually the burden of proof that Clinton is not responsible would fall to you. You are proclaiming the entire reason for Benghazi was the house trimming the budget. What facts have you provided that backs up your statements? I simply can post HRC own words to show you she took responsibility. I will wait for you to post HRC saying she isn't responsible because the big bad republicans cut the budget. I have a feeling I will be waiting a very long time since your stance is she has zero responsibility. Here is her exact statement during the hearings. You can easily look it up for accuracy.

"I take responsibility for what happened in Benghazi," Clinton told the committee, which is expected publish a final report on the incident in 2016.

I will be waiting.

 

[GigaloRob]

@GigaloRob im going to adopt your same logic. Trump is in charge now so he is responsible for everything that happens from here on. Everything. And im going to rub your face in every fucking thing that happens because he is the president and he is responsible for everything.

Sounds foolish dosent it?

Actually he is not in charge yet so your statement is incorrect. I thought I would point that out to you since you proclaim others are stupid and don't know the facts. Let me ask you this question, did you place blame on Bush for the 9-11 attacks? I'm sure you will not admit you did but I can assure you the left did and judged him for it.

Every president is judged by the success and failures for his/her policies and the overall conduct of their administration. One could say Benghazi is also part of Obama's responsibility because he appointed Clinton if one were to reach that far. See we can assign blame to anyone in the chain if we wanted but that's not what I and others are doing here. It's not reaching to say that the person directly in charge of that specific department is responsible for what happens in that particular department especially when she admitted herself she is responsible. Seems that you are the only one reaching here is you.

 

[GigaloRob]

Since you like facts so much @ronin17 yet continue to ignore the ones that don't fit your bias narrative I will deal you the killing blow and put you out of your liberal misery. Here is questions and answers from the hearings asking some of the people in charge if funding or lack thereof was an issue or was responsible for Benghazi.

OCT. 10, 2012 HEARING:

QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?

DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.

***

QUESTION: So there's not a budget problem. It's not you all don't have the money to do this?

LAMB: Sir, it's a volatile situation. We will move assets to cover that.

MAY 8, 2013 HEARING:

QUESTION: Mr. Nordstrom, you were on that panel. Do you remember what she [Lamb] said?

REGIONAL SECURITY OFFICER ERIC NORDSTROM: Yes, she said that resources was not an issue. And I think I would also point to the ARB report, if I'm not mistaken, that they talked to our chief financial officer with D.S. [Diplomatic Security], who also said that resources were not an issue.

 

[GigaloRob]

 

[Big_paul]

The sad thing is, if this was a regular Joe off the street, they wouldn't see the light of day until their death bed, But if you are rich, you can get away with anything.

That's America bro.