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My uncle was a dog trainer. I think their good for anything their trained to do

This is true. You teach that pup to find rags soaked in Test E, you can damn sure bet he'll find it when gets old. IMO. Wouldn't think they are training dogs for this in LE. Yet anyways.
 
California Gun Law Will Let Police Confiscate Legally-Owned Weapons

A new California law scheduled to take effect Friday will allow the police to seize private, legally-owned weapons for up to three weeks without charges or allowing the citizen to contest the seizure.

AB1014 was passed last year in the wake of 2014’s Isla Vista shooting, where teenager Elliot Rodger went on a rampage near the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara, killing six people along with himself.

Rodger’s parents had reported him to the police prior to the shooting, concerned about his mental health and rants he posted online. But after meeting with Rodger, police decided he wasn’t a criminal risk, and consequently didn’t search his apartment, where he was stockpiling weapons and ammunition.

The new law is intended to stop such a situation from re-occurring. Under the law, a judge has the power to grant a restraining order telling police to seize a person’s guns, based solely on accounts from family members or police that the person is poses an imminent danger to others. The restraining order can be granted without the affected person knowing it exists or being allowed time to contest it.

Under the law, the factors a judge can consider in granting the restraining order include not only threats of violence, but also prior felony arrests (even without a conviction), evidence of alcohol abuse, and even the simple act of recently purchasing a gun or ammunition.

Once granted, police can use the restraining order to confiscate all of a person’s guns and ammunition, and the person is also barred from buying or possessing guns and ammo for the duration of the order. A full court hearing must then be heard within three weeks. At that hearing, a judge will be able to extend the restraining order for an entire year.

“The law gives us a vehicle to cause the person to surrender their weapons, to have a time out, if you will,” Los Angeles Police Department Assistant Chief Michael Moore told Southern California Public Radio. “It allows further examination of the person’s mental state.”



CHAPTER 3. Ex Parte Gun Violence Restraining Order

(2) In determining whether grounds for a gun violence restraining order exist, the court may consider any other evidence of an increased risk for violence, including, but not limited to, evidence of any of the following:


(C) Any prior arrest of the subject of the petition for a felony offense.

(F) Documentary evidence, including, but not limited to, police reports and records of convictions, of either recent criminal offenses by the subject of the petition that involve controlled substances or alcohol or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol by the subject of the petition.

(G) Evidence of recent acquisition of firearms, ammunition, or other deadly weapons.



Bill Text - AB-1014 Gun violence restraining orders.
 
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California Gun Law Will Let Police Confiscate Legally-Owned Weapons

A new California law scheduled to take effect Friday will allow the police to seize private, legally-owned weapons for up to three weeks without charges or allowing the citizen to contest the seizure.

AB1014 was passed last year in the wake of 2014’s Isla Vista shooting, where teenager Elliot Rodger went on a rampage near the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara, killing six people along with himself.

Rodger’s parents had reported him to the police prior to the shooting, concerned about his mental health and rants he posted online. But after meeting with Rodger, police decided he wasn’t a criminal risk, and consequently didn’t search his apartment, where he was stockpiling weapons and ammunition.

The new law is intended to stop such a situation from re-occurring. Under the law, a judge has the power to grant a restraining order telling police to seize a person’s guns, based solely on accounts from family members or police that the person is poses an imminent danger to others. The restraining order can be granted without the affected person knowing it exists or being allowed time to contest it.

Under the law, the factors a judge can consider in granting the restraining order include not only threats of violence, but also prior felony arrests (even without a conviction), evidence of alcohol abuse, and even the simple act of recently purchasing a gun or ammunition.

Once granted, police can use the restraining order to confiscate all of a person’s guns and ammunition, and the person is also barred from buying or possessing guns and ammo for the duration of the order. A full court hearing must then be heard within three weeks. At that hearing, a judge will be able to extend the restraining order for an entire year.

“The law gives us a vehicle to cause the person to surrender their weapons, to have a time out, if you will,” Los Angeles Police Department Assistant Chief Michael Moore told Southern California Public Radio. “It allows further examination of the person’s mental state.”



CHAPTER 3. Ex Parte Gun Violence Restraining Order

(2) In determining whether grounds for a gun violence restraining order exist, the court may consider any other evidence of an increased risk for violence, including, but not limited to, evidence of any of the following:


(C) Any prior arrest of the subject of the petition for a felony offense.

(F) Documentary evidence, including, but not limited to, police reports and records of convictions, of either recent criminal offenses by the subject of the petition that involve controlled substances or alcohol or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol by the subject of the petition.

(G) Evidence of recent acquisition of firearms, ammunition, or other deadly weapons.



Bill Text - AB-1014 Gun violence restraining orders.
I read about this recently. Scary stuff. Blatant violation of constitutional rights. Have you ever watched any of the videos on Elliot Roger's YouTube channel? The kid was a psychopath. Rich little bastard that had everything, drove around a Mercedes, but killed all those people because he couldn't get any pussy. Said that they didn't deserve to live because they wouldn't be with him, and referred to himself as the "supreme gentlemen".
 
California Gun Law Will Let Police Confiscate Legally-Owned Weapons

A new California law scheduled to take effect Friday will allow the police to seize private, legally-owned weapons for up to three weeks without charges or allowing the citizen to contest the seizure.

AB1014 was passed last year in the wake of 2014’s Isla Vista shooting, where teenager Elliot Rodger went on a rampage near the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara, killing six people along with himself.

Rodger’s parents had reported him to the police prior to the shooting, concerned about his mental health and rants he posted online. But after meeting with Rodger, police decided he wasn’t a criminal risk, and consequently didn’t search his apartment, where he was stockpiling weapons and ammunition.

The new law is intended to stop such a situation from re-occurring. Under the law, a judge has the power to grant a restraining order telling police to seize a person’s guns, based solely on accounts from family members or police that the person is poses an imminent danger to others. The restraining order can be granted without the affected person knowing it exists or being allowed time to contest it.

Under the law, the factors a judge can consider in granting the restraining order include not only threats of violence, but also prior felony arrests (even without a conviction), evidence of alcohol abuse, and even the simple act of recently purchasing a gun or ammunition.

Once granted, police can use the restraining order to confiscate all of a person’s guns and ammunition, and the person is also barred from buying or possessing guns and ammo for the duration of the order. A full court hearing must then be heard within three weeks. At that hearing, a judge will be able to extend the restraining order for an entire year.

“The law gives us a vehicle to cause the person to surrender their weapons, to have a time out, if you will,” Los Angeles Police Department Assistant Chief Michael Moore told Southern California Public Radio. “It allows further examination of the person’s mental state.”



CHAPTER 3. Ex Parte Gun Violence Restraining Order

(2) In determining whether grounds for a gun violence restraining order exist, the court may consider any other evidence of an increased risk for violence, including, but not limited to, evidence of any of the following:


(C) Any prior arrest of the subject of the petition for a felony offense.

(F) Documentary evidence, including, but not limited to, police reports and records of convictions, of either recent criminal offenses by the subject of the petition that involve controlled substances or alcohol or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol by the subject of the petition.

(G) Evidence of recent acquisition of firearms, ammunition, or other deadly weapons.

Bill Text - AB-1014 Gun violence restraining orders.

What an asshole:

“The law gives us a vehicle to cause the person to surrender their weapons, to have a time out, if you will,”

California.... nutjobs the lot of them. I really dislike that state.
 
I have been watching this thread , I will admit i am what I guess would be considered a gun hoarder I have bought alot of guns in my life but never sold a single one even the ones that are junk . this is what I have for shot guns

2 Mossberg 12ga pump guns
3 model 870 rem a 20 28 and 12 ga
2 model 12 win 12 and 16 ga
I model 42 win 410 ga
I model 21 win side by side 12 ga w 2 sets of barrels
2 ruger red labels 12 and 20 ga
2 win 101 over under 12 and 20 ga
I rem 3200 over under 12 ga
2 belgum browning over under 12 and 20 ga.
1 model 31 rem 12 ga field gun
1 model 31 rem trap grade
1 model 40 win auto 12 ga
I belgum browning side by side 12 ga
2 benelli super black eagle 12 ga
2 benelli nova 12 ga
that's the shotguns you see why I think I have a hoarding issue .
 
California.... nutjobs the lot of them. I really dislike that state.

It's easy to forget that California was Reagan country. You will never see this happen again:

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I have been watching this thread , I will admit i am what I guess would be considered a gun hoarder I have bought alot of guns in my life but never sold a single one even the ones that are junk . this is what I have for shot guns

2 Mossberg 12ga pump guns
3 model 870 rem a 20 28 and 12 ga
2 model 12 win 12 and 16 ga
I model 42 win 410 ga
I model 21 win side by side 12 ga w 2 sets of barrels
2 ruger red labels 12 and 20 ga
2 win 101 over under 12 and 20 ga
I rem 3200 over under 12 ga
2 belgum browning over under 12 and 20 ga.
1 model 31 rem 12 ga field gun
1 model 31 rem trap grade
1 model 40 win auto 12 ga
I belgum browning side by side 12 ga
2 benelli super black eagle 12 ga
2 benelli nova 12 ga
that's the shotguns you see why I think I have a hoarding issue .

That reminds me of Reba and her husband in the movie Tremors. [emoji4]
If all hell ever breaks loose I'm going to your house, lol.
 
A bit large and heavy to be a CCW IMO. Other than that I don't see anything wrong with it. Revolvers are very reliable.
I'm concerned about quality with charter arms.
It goes for a tad over $400 in .44spl which is a bargain...if it works lol
One down side is the affordability and availability of the non main stream round
 
I'm concerned about quality with charter arms.
It goes for a tad over $400 in .44spl which is a bargain...if it works lol
One down side is the affordability and availability of the non main stream round
Yeah idk much about the round or charter arms for that matter. But what I do know is that it's tough to make a revolver malfunction. The way they work is very straight forward so I couldn't imagine it having reliability issues. But then you have the issue of that particular round which seems like a sort of novelty ammo. Probably expensive and I'm sure they don't carry it at Walmart. I'd suggest just going with a Ruger LCR in .357 Mag. Affordable and some +P+ hollow points will put all the energy you need down range.
 
And hell if you don't mind the extra size/weight just get a Taurus judge public defender. Load that bad boy up with .45 long colt or .410 shotgun shells.
 
So I've been thinking about saving some money and sending one of my Glock slides off to ZevTec.. Any of you guys ever checked out their custom work on glocks? image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg
 
I'm concerned about quality with charter arms.
It goes for a tad over $400 in .44spl which is a bargain...if it works lol
One down side is the affordability and availability of the non main stream round
I've heard they solid but rough around the edges. Not a great trigger pull and finish isn't so great. But .44 special is a solid self defense round
 
Yeah idk much about the round or charter arms for that matter. But what I do know is that it's tough to make a revolver malfunction. The way they work is very straight forward so I couldn't imagine it having reliability issues. But then you have the issue of that particular round which seems like a sort of novelty ammo. Probably expensive and I'm sure they don't carry it at Walmart. I'd suggest just going with a Ruger LCR in .357 Mag. Affordable and some +P+ hollow points will put all the energy you need down range.
+1 on the .357 recommendation
 
That is not the firearm I had but is real similar!
Sadly my collection was lost to poor lifestyle choices!
I always favored Springfield tho!
And I've owned many guns!
I'd have to say that my Springfield 1911 and my Springfield xd 40 were my all time favorites!
Although I did have a couple kalishnakovs that were close to my heart!
 
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