TheNewSal
New Member
Any recomendations for some good ones? bcaa's that is.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
bcaa
- Thread starter TheNewSal
- Start date
What he said
I like the leucine 4:1:1 myself
I like the leucine 4:1:1 myself
sin
New Member
Man sports iso amino has great flavors at a 2:1:1 ratio. The sour batch kids and fruittles are amazing.
MEAT, or if you prefer any reasonable quality AA supplement would be fine. There is NO NEED to specifically supplement BCAAs primarily bc YOUR BODY MAKES THEM!
FYI
TheNewSal
New Member
DR Jim, I appreciate that alot. To be honest, I am new to all thinks and have only been working out for about eight months now. Know much but I was able to get a good meal plan, and workout and have lost 40 lbs., I would like to be a beast but I don't know what I am doing. A few guys told me to make sure I started my day with some BCAA and even though I know roughly what they are I didn't know where to get them. To be honest I read your post on them but I didn't understand it. What kind of meats would o eat to get them. I am trying to get down to 11-15 % bf,
so theres no need to specifically supplement, idk... say, creatine. primarily bc your body makes it. why would a quality aa supplement, assuming you mean amino acid, be fine, but not a bcaa supplement. maybe an eaa, essential amino acid, supplement would be better. because your body doesn't make them.
either way I don't use a bcaa supplement. theyre too expensive, and I haven't read enough evidence to justify that expense. maybe if youre protein intake is low. but yes, whole food protein like meat or eggs contain a good amount of bcaas. so do most whey protein powders. and youre right, there is NO NEED. that's why theyre supplements... to a healthy diet
.
so bcaas suppress skeletal muscle proteolysis, but muscle protein synthesis.
Jim is right. There is absolutely no need for BCAAs unless maybe you are training fasted. If you get adequate protein intake from other sources like beef, chicken, fish, whey, etc then you are taking in enough BCAAs already as ALL complete protein sources have BCAAs. Whey protein itself is about 25% BCAA IIRC. Cutting body fat requires a calorie deficit and adequate protein intake and is not necessary to use BCAAs to cut or for any other reason for that matter.
Take the study on it's own with a grain of salt as some key information is missing from the absract and one glaring point makes it almost irrelevant. What it does do though is add towards the evidence showing BCAA supllementstion is largely worthless for most ppl
so theres no need to specifically supplement, idk... say, creatine. primarily bc your body makes it. why would a quality aa supplement, assuming you mean amino acid, be fine, but not a bcaa supplement. maybe an eaa, essential amino acid, supplement would be better. because your body doesn't make them.
either way I don't use a bcaa supplement. theyre too expensive, and I haven't read enough evidence to justify that expense. maybe if youre protein intake is low. but yes, whole food protein like meat or eggs contain a good amount of bcaas. so do most whey protein powders. and youre right, there is NO NEED. that's why theyre supplements... to a healthy diet
Creatine is a poor example bc you can meet BCAA needs through diet alone ie beef, whey, chicken, fish, etc and the body can make what it needs.
With creatine you would need to eat pounds and pounds of beef to get what you could with supplementing it.
i train fasted.
im not convinced its as simple as calories in, calories out. at the simplest level, yes.
I do also from time to time but I prefer training in a post-prandial state
It is as simple as calories in and calories out. That's ~80 - 95% of it.
Where in the post you quoted am I talking about cals in cals out? That quoted post was about BCAAs being largely worthless for most ppl and a waste of money. Get adequate protein intake and you're already getting adequate BCAA intake. There's no need for $$$ to be spent on something you're already getting plenty of unless you like spending money or like the flavor or soemthing.
its just, idk... an example. not a poor example.
what are my bcaas needs? and why is my body making them.
and if youre protein is two low. bcass, maybe.
ok. so its 80-95% of it. its just that simple
.post # 10 "cutting fat requires a calorie deficit (calories in, calories out) and adequate protein..."
You tried using Jim's reasoning against creatine and bc you cannot realistically get enough creatine through diet alone it's a poor example in my opinion.
Theoretically, your BCAA needs are what your body makes. Those are the only needs. For optimal muscle building there's no known number to my knowledge. Don't take that to mean the more the better since there's diminishing returns and getting 1g/lb of protein makes sure you already get a ton of BCAAs without supplementing them specifically.
Your body makes them bc they're non-essential nutrients. Just like your body can make glucose to use for energy from fat and amino acids.
If your protein is too low you'd be better off with EAAs bc the body can't make those on it's own.
ok. so its 80-95% of it. its just that simple
post # 10 "cutting fat requires a calorie deficit (calories in, calories out) and adequate protein..."
I tried putting a number to it to help quantify to you how insignificant everything behind cals in and out and macros are. If that's beyind your understanding of human nutrition than I suggest reading medline or pubmed, reading the experts thiughts, and picking up some nutritional texts. If I wrote 82-96.5% would it have made it simpler or harder?
what is a "realistic" amount of creatine? what happens when "supplement"?
what are the body's needs for bcaas? what happens when you supplement?
please, don't talk to me like im an idiot. you just made up some numbers.
it may be in fact, that's its beyind
my understanding of human nutrition. ill try reading the experts thiughts , and picking up some nutrional texts. cals in and out, is as simple as it gets.
