just seeing if anyone has done this combo. im doing 200mcg huperzine a am and pm before bed and 4iu gh at night. it is amazing!
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Huperzine A and GH
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hotdog23
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Add the DAC homie. Srsly. Add the DAC. Progen got 20mg for like $80 It was good as of three weeks ago. Someone I trust did bloodwork on it. 4mg/week gave them 100 point bump on IGF draw. With them greys you'll be off the charts. You'll be the most jacked bicurious cardio surgeon brah on the whole fuckin eastern seaboard
I just read today that doing gh at night isnt where you want to. Just read it and am reading up on it much now @alphastrength50 . Whats the reason you're doing it at night? Aren't you burningbyourself of the natty levels while you sleep? This is a real question because im new. Also whats up withbthe other stuff you're talking about? Ill be looking into it as well. Thx guys. Btw, that was some funny shit bro about the jacked bicurious surgen brah!!!!Add the DAC homie. Srsly. Add the DAC. Progen got 20mg for like $80 It was good as of three weeks ago. Someone I trust did bloodwork on it. 4mg/week gave them 100 point bump on IGF draw. With them greys you'll be off the charts. You'll be the most jacked bicurious cardio surgeon brah on the whole fuckin eastern seaboard
johnnyBALLZ
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Add the DAC homie. Srsly. Add the DAC. Progen got 20mg for like $80 It was good as of three weeks ago. Someone I trust did bloodwork on it. 4mg/week gave them 100 point bump on IGF draw. With them greys you'll be off the charts. You'll be the most jacked bicurious cardio surgeon brah on the whole fuckin eastern seaboard
What is DAC and why do you take it with GH?
What is huperzine?!
I know I could just google this shit but hotdog, you're sooooo good at explaining this stuff... Please school me kind sir..
hotdog23
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I just read today that doing gh at night isnt where you want to. Just read it and am reading up on it much now @alphastrength50 . Whats the reason you're doing it at night? Aren't you burningbyourself of the natty levels while you sleep? This is a real question because im new. Also whats up withbthe other stuff you're talking about? Ill be looking into it as well. Thx guys. Btw, that was some funny shit bro about the jacked bicurious surgen brah!!!!
I would love to see some evidence either way. I don't think you get much natty GH when your running synthetic, that's my opinion. It's like a double layer feedback loop... Even if your GH levels are back to normal by nighttime, your IGF levels are still elevated (slow to rise, slow to fall) and your body sees this and is like 'there is no reason to pulse GH, it looks like we have too much already'.... That's what hotdog thinks anyway but I didn't finish college
hotdog23
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What is DAC and why do you take it with GH?
What is huperzine?!
I know I could just google this shit but hotdog, you're sooooo good at explaining this stuff... Please school me kind sir..
Fucking lazy!
DAC is long lasting ghrh, like last for weeks. The long term, tho minimal elevation, it causes - really impacts IGF levels. Much like synthetic hgh and it's LONG duration of action. Huperzine by stopping an AcH metabolizing enzyme, inhibits somatostatin (the GH release preventer) at which point the ghrh (DAC) will have unrestricted access your somatrophs, which will then squirt and ejaculate all kinds of natural GH into your bloodstream in one long ass awesome pulse....
Fuck u guys. If I need something stroked, it's not my ego JB
So this is good I take it!!Fucking lazy!
DAC is long lasting ghrh, like last for weeks. The long term, tho minimal elevation, it causes - really impacts IGF levels. Much like synthetic hgh and it's LONG duration of action. Huperzine by stopping an AcH metabolizing enzyme, inhibits somatostatin (the GH release preventer) at which point the ghrh (DAC) will have unrestricted access your somatrophs, which will then squirt and ejaculate all kinds of natural GH into your bloodstream in one long ass awesome pulse....
Fuck u guys. If I need something stroked, it's not my ego JB
thx for the responses bro. Heres a question then, would I be better off doing all 4 ius in the evening?
hotdog23
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Nah IMO 2iu 2x day will be better
Foreal if it was me I would stretch that supply you got with peps. 2iu GH and 2-3 pep shots a day
Mod 1-29/ghrp 2
100mcg/100mcg
At 4iu day u will run out fucking quick
johnnyBALLZ
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So this is good I take it!!
I told you this mofo, 2iu at a time!! I don't know shit about these peptides but trust me when it comes to GH protocol.
hotdog23
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I told you this mofo, 2iu at a time!! I don't know shit about these peptides but trust me when it comes to GH protocol.
Can't tell em nothin lol
What about subcut and IM injections? Some guys say the dose post workout should be IM and the other subcut.I told you this mofo, 2iu at a time!! I don't know shit about these peptides but trust me when it comes to GH protocol.
I know some that are saying the best results are from IV.
johnnyBALLZ
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I do sub first thing in the morning and IM immediately post workout into a muscle worked that day in the gym bathroom.
I haven't done IV, haven't done much research on it either but you've piqued my curiousity..
J Surg Res. 1991 Dec;51(6):472-6.
Insulin-like growth factor-I response is comparable following intravenous and subcutaneous administration of growth hormone.
Kimbrough TD, Shernan S, Ziegler TR, Scheltinga M, Wilmore DW.
Insulin-like growth factor-I response is comparab... [J Surg Res. 1991] - PubMed - NCBI
Abstract
Subcutaneous (sq) administration of recombinant human growth hormone (r-hgh) has an anabolic effect and increases systemic insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I) in surgical patients. IGF-I is a mediator of growth hormone (gh) anabolic effects. To determine the effect of intravenous (iv) administration of r-hgh on systemic IGF-I, 11 patients were given 14 1-week courses of daily 8-hr infusions of r-hgh (10 mg in 500 ml D5W). Serum gh and IGF-I levels were measured. To compare routes of administration, iv r-hgh patients were matched to comparable sq r-hgh patients and IGF-I responses were examined. Illness severity effect on IGF-I response to r-hgh was assessed by dividing 16 burn patients who received either iv or sq r-hgh into two groups on the basis of severity scores. Analysis of the data showed that IGF-I levels increased significantly after iv r-hgh, IGF-I response to iv r-hgh (1.14 +/- 0.18 U/ml to 4.12 +/- 0.65 U/ml) was not different from IGF-I response to sq r-hgh (1.04 +/- 0.36 U/ml to 4.96 +/- 1.09 U/ml). Increasing illness severity attenuated the IGF-I response in the more severely injured group (0.91 +/- 17 U/ml to 2.40 +/- 0.38 U/ml) relative to the less severely injured group (1.37 +/- 0.22 U/ml to 5.53 +/- 0.78 U/ml) despite a significant increase in IGF-I after gh in both groups. In summary, IGF-I increased significantly after iv r-hgh and the increases were similar to those seen after sq r-hgh in comparable patients.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)
Eur J Endocrinol. 1996 Sep;135(3):309-15.
Bioavailability and bioactivity of three different doses of nasal growth hormone (GH) administered to GH-deficient patients: comparison with intravenous and subcutaneous administration.
Laursen T, Grandjean B, Jørgensen JO, Christiansen JS.
Bioavailability and bioactivity of three di... [Eur J Endocrinol. 1996] - PubMed - NCBI
Abstract
The current mode of growth hormone (GH) replacement therapy is daily subcutaneous (s.c.) injections given in the evening. This schedule is unable to mimic the endogenous pulsatile pattern of GH secretion, which might be of importance for the induction of growth and other GH actions. The present study was conducted in order to study the pharmacokinetics of different doses of GH following intranasal (i.n.) administration and the biological activity of GH after i.n. administration as compared with sc and intravenous (i.v.) delivery. Sixteen GH-deficient patients were studied on five different occasions. On three occasions GH was administered intranasally in doses of 0.05, 0.10 and 0.20 IU/kg, using didecanoyl-L-alpha-phosphatidylcholine as an enhancer. On the other two occasions the patients received an sc injection (0.10 IU/kg) and an i.v. injection (0.015 IU/kg) of GH, respectively. The nasal doses and the sc injection were given in random order in a crossover design. In a double-blinded manner the subjects received the three nasal doses as one puff in each nostril. The patients received no GH treatment between the five studies or during the last week before the start of each study. Intravenous administration produced a short-lived serum GH peak value of 128.12 +/- 6.71 micrograms/l. Peak levels were 13.98 +/- 1.63 micrograms/l after s.c. injection and 3.26 +/- 0.38, 7.07 +/- 0.80 and 8.37 +/- 1.31 micrograms/l, respectively, after the three nasal doses. The peak values of the 0.05 and the 0.20 IU/kg nasal doses were significantly different (p = 0.007). The mean levels obtained by the low nasal dose were significantly lower than those obtained with the medium (p < 0.001) and the high dose (p < 0.001), while there was no significant difference between the medium and the high doses. The absolute bioavailability of GH following s.c. relative to i.v. administration was 49.5%. The bioavailabilities of the nasal doses were: 7.8% (0.05 IU). 8.9% (0.10 IU) and 3.8% (0.20 IU). Serum insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) levels increased significantly after s.c. administration only. Mean levels were significantly higher after s.c. administration as compared with the i.v. and all three nasal does (p < 0.001). Serum IGF binding protein 3 (IGFBP-3) levels remained unchanged on all five occasions. Mean serum IGFBP-I levels were significantly lower after s.c. GH injection than after administration of the i.v. (p < 0.001) and the three nasal doses (p < 0.005). Subcutaneous GH administration resulted in significantly higher levels of serum insulin and blood glucose (p < 0.001). In conclusion, the bioavailability of nasal GH was low (3.8-8.9%). An i.v. bolus injection of, on average, 1 IU of GH induced no metabolic response. Only s.c. GH administration induced increased levels of IGF-I, insulin and glucose. These data reveal that a closer imitation of the physiological GH pulses than achieved by s.c. GH administration is of limited importance for the induction of a metabolic response to GH.
check it out gh lasts for short duration and by time your body reaches deep sleep for gh release the sy.thetic gh you used os gone!
Ill shoot you a pm in a bit bro.
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Did this after wkout last night. 2 in the am and 2 rite after gym in car. I was also wondering about I.m rather than sub q.
hotdog23
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check it out gh lasts for short duration and by time your body reaches deep sleep for gh release the sy.thetic gh you used os gone!
Last long time homie. Plus elevated IGF is gonna negatively affect feedback
whoah where did u get thay bro
