Yet another loss of libido, impaired memory, and stress intolerance.

The biggest challenge is finding a doctor that will run the labs you need to have run. Many times you have to end up going to someone who knows something about the subject and is therefore open to running labs that most regular doctors won't. Hopefully you can find such a doctor that accepts your insurance as well. Here are a few websites that may be able to refer a doctor to you that lives in your area:

http://www.womensinternational.com/ is a compounding pharmacy that will be able to give you a list of doctors in your area that order from them.

www.tuneupyourt.com they might be able to refer doctors in Canada to you.

http://www.worldhealth.net/ American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine

www.lef.org The Life Extension foundation
 
Distance is relative to what one is used to travelling. As for me, I'm used to travelling long distance, and 8 hours is nothing that I'm afraid of really (i'm no trucker though), but still, if I can have the bads done here locally, that'd be best.

Locally I think I know a doctor who'd agree to run those labs.

Locally I had a good amount done so far. What still remaining to be done is :

FT4/FT3

Then you said : Estradiol, DHT and what else should I have run ? I already had Total T done last November, then bioavailable testosterone and DHEA-S, and recently the blood and free cortisol.

If you maintain that DHT and estradiol and FT4/FT3 are enough to either draw a clearer clinical picture or rule out any involvement of the thyroid and/ or of androgen and/or estrogen, then I should be able to find a doctor locally to have them run. If however I really need a full workup then, I'm afraid I'll have look elsewhere.

Thanks
 
We all know anxiety is a libido killer, now do you know what anxiety does endocrinologically to cause low libido ? Stress and anxiety are known to increase cortisol secretions, however since my Free Cort. is in the low normal of the range, I'd reason that anxiety based cortisol elevation is not what could cause low libido. I know that my PRL is likely one of the major culprit, but here I'm trying to isolate how *anxiety alone* does it's magic to kill sex drive.

Not a day of my life goes by where I have my head clear of any worry or preoccupation. Of course the low libido has been a major preoccupation over the last 8 years. However what's hard to some extent to figure out is which comes first : the chicken or the eggs ? Or if you will is the low sex drive causing the preoccupation OR could it be that I'Ve developed severe anxiety over time (I've always been this way btw, but this might have worsened over the last years) and that that anxiety is causing the low libido........i hope I make sense here, but i think you'll be able to read between the lines and pick up what I'm driving at.

Best
 
chip douglas said:
how *anxiety alone* does it's magic to kill sex drive.

When a person is relaxed, their libido is higher. Simple as that. So, anxiety itself is a libido killer.

chip douglas said:
However what's hard to some extent to figure out is which comes first : the chicken or the eggs ?

It sounds to me like you have always had a problem with anxiety. Anxiety will start to run you down and cause other problems (eg. Adrenal Fatigue) which will cause you to become less able to handle your anxiety. It then becomes a vicious circle of your anxiety causing hormonal problems and your hormonal problems causing you to become less capable of dealing with your anxiety and becoming more anxious.

This is why you need to treat the Adrenals in order to be able to physically cope with anxiety, but you will also need to take/do something to reduce your anxiety and thereby the load on your Adrenals and yourself in general.
 
I liked your reply 1cc--rather clear and concise.

It may not be known or you may not know, but just for knowledge sake, is it known how anxiety adversely affect libido ? I mean, for example when one is stressed, i know it lowers LH output, and increases neuropeptide Y, cortisol etc...

Anxiety if I recall correctly is highly linked with the brain region called the locus ceruleus, where lies most norepinephrine neurons--that region is intimately linked the the fight or flight reaction.

I agree with you that all seems to point out that I've always had an anxiety issue. Take this for instance : not long ago, a doctor I talked too telling him I'd had arrythmias became an alarmist and told me I'd have to make sure I don't have the LQTS, the long QT syndrome--a prolonged QT interval seen on an EKG monitor, which can be fatal. When I was told that, I became so anxious that I ended up paralyzed in my bed, even afraid to move--that tells you I had a lot of anxiety. That severe bout of anxiety that doctor triggered by telling me about the importance of ruling out the LQTS spiked my anxiety level alright. Needless to say I had more arrhythmias during that period, as anxiety definately increase their amount, and subjective intensity. After they checked out hooking me to a Holter monitor for a 48 hours period, during which I made sure to trigger as many as I could, however unlpleasant it was. When I turned in the Holter, they called me two days later to tell me they had picked some on the recordings, and that they were benign sinus arrhythmias, and nothing to worry about. My anxiety level then went down noticeably, and the frequency and intensity of those sinus arrhythmias went down quite a bit. I still have a few here and there, but overall I can easily say there's a 97% improvement.

Anxiety can pretty much bring about a wide array of symptoms.
 
chip douglas said:
I liked your reply 1cc--rather clear and concise.

It may not be known or you may not know, but just for knowledge sake, is it known how anxiety adversely affect libido ? I mean, for example when one is stressed, i know it lowers LH output, and increases neuropeptide Y, cortisol etc...

Anxiety if I recall correctly is highly linked with the brain region called the locus ceruleus, where lies most norepinephrine neurons--that region is intimately linked the the fight or flight reaction.

I agree with you that all seems to point out that I've always had an anxiety issue. Take this for instance : not long ago, a doctor I talked too telling him I'd had arrythmias became an alarmist and told me I'd have to make sure I don't have the LQTS, the long QT syndrome--a prolonged QT interval seen on an EKG monitor, which can be fatal. When I was told that, I became so anxious that I ended up paralyzed in my bed, even afraid to move--that tells you I had a lot of anxiety. That severe bout of anxiety that doctor triggered by telling me about the importance of ruling out the LQTS spiked my anxiety level alright. Needless to say I had more arrhythmias during that period, as anxiety definately increase their amount, and subjective intensity. After they checked out hooking me to a Holter monitor for a 48 hours period, during which I made sure to trigger as many as I could, however unlpleasant it was. When I turned in the Holter, they called me two days later to tell me they had picked some on the recordings, and that they were benign sinus arrhythmias, and nothing to worry about. My anxiety level then went down noticeably, and the frequency and intensity of those sinus arrhythmias went down quite a bit. I still have a few here and there, but overall I can easily say there's a 97% improvement.

Anxiety can pretty much bring about a wide array of symptoms.
I am like this and it got much better when I got my T levels and E2 undercontrol. Yet still I have to work hard on it. My best relief comes from exercise and doing relaxation 2x's a day for 20 min's.
http://www.ucop.edu/humres/eap/relaxationrespone.html
Doing this even if you can't stop the stress gives your body and mind such a good rest better then a good 8hrs sleep. So what ever the damage done by my stress or Type A Personalty doing Relaxation Response undoes it. It takes some work to clear you mind and go this but when you get good at it you can do it anywhere on a bus or in the john at work. I can stop a panic attack doing this and when I can't sleep doing this laying down puts me to sleep. If you think you could do this and like it get the book.
 
Ok, took me a while, but I got thru the entire thread. I am likewize interested in seeing the r/o for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatique. However, the conclusions from Braverman and his staff have not been ruled out. Low dose SSRI's elevate GABA. This is why low dose SSRI's work well for OCD. Doses at therapeutic levels for depression don't help for OCD unless depression is also present. As few of my female patients have used low dose SSRI's for what used to be called PMS. You might find some of the following material informative in its discussion of how neurotransmitters relate to hormones.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134239779
 
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Thanks heaps HeadDoc, that was kind of you to go over my thread.

I haven't taken any siberian ginseng for one and a half week now, would say it's safe me to have the bood drawn for FT4/FT3 ?

Out of curiosity what do you think of the dysthymia/ADHD diagnosis as regards low sex drive ? Could Dr. Braverman be right that low dose Paxil and Klonopin would re-establish a healthy sex drive ?

Best
 
Chip,

After 5 years of being overweight, sugar cravings, flying off the handle, what felt like high adrenaline coursing through my veins, terrible energy and sleepiness, being diagnosed with adrenal fatigue, ADD, dysthymia, too much partying, not getting enough sleep, all of which did not seem right to me, I sought to find an answer at any cost. The cost has turned out to be about $40,000 in tests, docs, supplements, travel, etc. and yet the problem was found, by accident within a set of tests that I took that included an ESTRONE level. After reading up on Estrone and realized it, in part, regulates the chain-reaction cascade of cholesterol to Pregnenolone and both testosterone and cortisol, I asked my doc to put me on Arimidex to stop the aromatization of testosterone to the various forms of estrogen and thereby stop the negative feedback which was stopping the chain reaction of cholesterol to Pregnenolone to DHEA to testosterone (over simplification but you get the idea).

After 2 weeks on Arimidex, sure enough, my high cholesterol came down from 290 to 230, my Pregnenolone went up from 7 to 192 (I won't be too technical with units of measurement, but you get the idea), and more importantly my sugar craving are gone, energy is back, and my weigh has come down on its own from 219 to 205 (I'm 6'1"), not to mention my stress seems to have relatively disappeared--almost to the point that I feel I am too calm and want it back. I believe I have been running on adrenaline that was taken from derived from what little Pregnenolone (the substance made from Cholesterol and can either be made into cortisol (from your adrenals) or made into androgen).


Ask your doc to test for estradiol (which he may have done), but more importantly, ESTRONE (another form of estrogen). (Some labs/docs may even resist giving you this test due to the fact that those without experience relative to the condition I describe may tell you the test is not pertinent for males.) The reason is, as you know, that testosterone is aromatized into estrogen, but estrogen exists in the body in various forms, one of which is estrone. Estrone and Estradiol for that matter, provide negative feedback for the conversion of Cholesterol (the mother of all hormones) into Pregnenolone which can then take the cascading chemical pathway of either producing DHEA & Testosterone AND/OR CORTISOL (as well as aldosterone but that is not pertinent to this discussion). Cholesterol is made into Pregnenolone when the body needs it and then Pregnenolone normally splits into both cortisol and testosterone pathways as needed. Health people have a balance of these 2 pathways...or more testosterone than cortisol (stress hormone).

In other words, Testosterone is actually regulated by the amount of estrogen that is derived from the aromatization of itself, i.e., the amount of estrogen that is produced from aromatization of the testosterone. High aromatization can equate to high levels of estradiol and/or estrone. If your body has an unusually high rate of aromatization into these forms of estrogen, then you could essentially have a low testosterone value, and high estradiol and/or estrone that is "tricking" your body into thinking too much testosterone is being made, therefore, despite your bodys testosterone being low, the body shuts down ACTH, which is needed to convert cholesterol to Pregnenolone and begin the process of making cortisol and/or testosterone.

Bottom line: estrone was shutting down the conversion of cholesterol to Pregnenolone which kept my body from naturally converting Pregnenolone to cortisol and/or testosterone. Since the body will literally die without cortisol, and since the body makes its cortisol from Pregnenolone and I had a minuscule amount (of pregnenolone) in my blood, the body "stole" the Pregnenolone that existed and made what cortisol it could from it. This is called "Pregnenolone steal" and it is basically diverting all of your Pregnenolone to cortisol, leaving you with little to no testosterone being made because it is being aromatized to estrone and the estrone shutting down the production of Pregnenolone and round and round. Because of this you end up with little to no androgens to balance your cortisol due to the chemical reaction being diverted away from them. It is this phenomenon that resulted in docs telling me I had adrenal fatigue.

This is the reason why people who are stressed have problems sexually, because the Pregnenolone pathway is diverted to the cortisol avenue instead of the testosterone avenue. Healthy people have a balance. It turned out that I couldnt maintain a balance due to ESTRONE "tricking" my body into thinking that it was making too much testosterone and shutting down the entire process or at least slowing it. Since are bodies will do anything to keep us from dying and zero cortisol would kill us, it takes the only thing it can to make cortisol--it takes your Pregnenolone (I was running on fumes). This is what leaves you stressed as hell and frazzled--your body has no chance of making androgens to balance the cortisol and maintaining a calm, natural homeostasis.

Check your Cholesterol, Pregnenolone, DHEA, Estrone and estradiol levels (don't worry about your cortisol levels as I am sure you have been through all the tests on your own), take arimidex (I take .5mg on Tues and 1mg on Fri) and watch your entire system come around (IF INDEED THIS IS THE PROBLEM YOU ARE HAVING). Then if you begin to feel better on Arimidex, you know that you are on the right path, so retest all of the above in 3 weeks and you should see your cholesterol come down, your Pregnenolone rise, stress decline, and your DHEA and testosterone rise (at least I did).

As it pertains to the problems listed above, I feel amazing now. However, the 2 months use of arimidex may have brought my estrogen levels down too well. Estrogen is needed in part by the male body for many things, among them, cognition, memory, and sexual response (as estrogen releases Nitric Oxide from cells of the brain, etc.), as a result, my memory is off and my libido is down from where it used to be. But no problem, I only now have to search for a good alternative to arimidex (a very powerful aromatase inhibitor and known to lower libido), and that you can find on your own or with help of your doc. But for purposes of aromatase inhibition (if estradiol and/or estrone too high), use Arimidex as it will leave no questions unanswered as to its power to stop your testosterone from aromatizing into estrogen.

Sorry for the redundancy and possible over simplified ramble but I stumbled upon this site looking for this arimidex alternative and don't intend to contribute any further and wanted to get everything down in the shortest period of time.

Hope this helps somehow.

Will
 
WillofChicago said:
Chip,

After 5 years of being overweight, sugar cravings, flying off the handle, what felt like high adrenaline coursing through my veins, terrible energy and sleepiness, being diagnosed with adrenal fatigue, ADD, dysthymia, too much partying, not getting enough sleep, all of which did not seem right to me, I sought to find an answer at any cost. The cost has turned out to be about $40,000 in tests, docs, supplements, travel, etc. and yet the problem was found, by accident within a set of tests that I took that included an ESTRONE level. After reading up on Estrone and realized it, in part, regulates the chain-reaction cascade of cholesterol to Pregnenolone and both testosterone and cortisol, I asked my doc to put me on Arimidex to stop the aromatization of testosterone to the various forms of estrogen and thereby stop the negative feedback which was stopping the chain reaction of cholesterol to Pregnenolone to DHEA to testosterone (over simplification but you get the idea).

After 2 weeks on Arimidex, sure enough, my high cholesterol came down from 290 to 230, my Pregnenolone went up from 7 to 192 (I won't be too technical with units of measurement, but you get the idea), and more importantly my sugar craving are gone, energy is back, and my weigh has come down on its own from 219 to 205 (I'm 6'1"), not to mention my stress seems to have relatively disappeared--almost to the point that I feel I am too calm and want it back. I believe I have been running on adrenaline that was taken from derived from what little Pregnenolone (the substance made from Cholesterol and can either be made into cortisol (from your adrenals) or made into androgen).


Ask your doc to test for estradiol (which he may have done), but more importantly, ESTRONE (another form of estrogen). (Some labs/docs may even resist giving you this test due to the fact that those without experience relative to the condition I describe may tell you the test is not pertinent for males.) The reason is, as you know, that testosterone is aromatized into estrogen, but estrogen exists in the body in various forms, one of which is estrone. Estrone and Estradiol for that matter, provide negative feedback for the conversion of Cholesterol (the mother of all hormones) into Pregnenolone which can then take the cascading chemical pathway of either producing DHEA & Testosterone AND/OR CORTISOL (as well as aldosterone but that is not pertinent to this discussion). Cholesterol is made into Pregnenolone when the body needs it and then Pregnenolone normally splits into both cortisol and testosterone pathways as needed. Health people have a balance of these 2 pathways...or more testosterone than cortisol (stress hormone).

In other words, Testosterone is actually regulated by the amount of estrogen that is derived from the aromatization of itself, i.e., the amount of estrogen that is produced from aromatization of the testosterone. High aromatization can equate to high levels of estradiol and/or estrone. If your body has an unusually high rate of aromatization into these forms of estrogen, then you could essentially have a low testosterone value, and high estradiol and/or estrone that is "tricking" your body into thinking too much testosterone is being made, therefore, despite your bodys testosterone being low, the body shuts down ACTH, which is needed to convert cholesterol to Pregnenolone and begin the process of making cortisol and/or testosterone.

Bottom line: estrone was shutting down the conversion of cholesterol to Pregnenolone which kept my body from naturally converting Pregnenolone to cortisol and/or testosterone. Since the body will literally die without cortisol, and since the body makes its cortisol from Pregnenolone and I had a minuscule amount (of pregnenolone) in my blood, the body "stole" the Pregnenolone that existed and made what cortisol it could from it. This is called "Pregnenolone steal" and it is basically diverting all of your Pregnenolone to cortisol, leaving you with little to no testosterone being made because it is being aromatized to estrone and the estrone shutting down the production of Pregnenolone and round and round. Because of this you end up with little to no androgens to balance your cortisol due to the chemical reaction being diverted away from them. It is this phenomenon that resulted in docs telling me I had adrenal fatigue.

This is the reason why people who are stressed have problems sexually, because the Pregnenolone pathway is diverted to the cortisol avenue instead of the testosterone avenue. Healthy people have a balance. It turned out that I couldnt maintain a balance due to ESTRONE "tricking" my body into thinking that it was making too much testosterone and shutting down the entire process or at least slowing it. Since are bodies will do anything to keep us from dying and zero cortisol would kill us, it takes the only thing it can to make cortisol--it takes your Pregnenolone (I was running on fumes). This is what leaves you stressed as hell and frazzled--your body has no chance of making androgens to balance the cortisol and maintaining a calm, natural homeostasis.

Check your Cholesterol, Pregnenolone, DHEA, Estrone and estradiol levels (don't worry about your cortisol levels as I am sure you have been through all the tests on your own), take arimidex (I take .5mg on Tues and 1mg on Fri) and watch your entire system come around (IF INDEED THIS IS THE PROBLEM YOU ARE HAVING). Then if you begin to feel better on Arimidex, you know that you are on the right path, so retest all of the above in 3 weeks and you should see your cholesterol come down, your Pregnenolone rise, stress decline, and your DHEA and testosterone rise (at least I did).

As it pertains to the problems listed above, I feel amazing now. However, the 2 months use of arimidex may have brought my estrogen levels down too well. Estrogen is needed in part by the male body for many things, among them, cognition, memory, and sexual response (as estrogen releases Nitric Oxide from cells of the brain, etc.), as a result, my memory is off and my libido is down from where it used to be. But no problem, I only now have to search for a good alternative to arimidex (a very powerful aromatase inhibitor and known to lower libido), and that you can find on your own or with help of your doc. But for purposes of aromatase inhibition (if estradiol and/or estrone too high), use Arimidex as it will leave no questions unanswered as to its power to stop your testosterone from aromatizing into estrogen.

Sorry for the redundancy and possible over simplified ramble but I stumbled upon this site looking for this arimidex alternative and don't intend to contribute any further and wanted to get everything down in the shortest period of time.

Hope this helps somehow.

Will

Very informative first post. Most people on this forum who find that Arimidex drives their E too low simply reduce their dosage rather than find an alternative. Some people take about .25 mg every few days. Others take a bit more.

How much are you taking now?
 
The_Skeptic said:
Very informative first post. Most people on this forum who find that Arimidex drives their E too low simply reduce their dosage rather than find an alternative. Some people take about .25 mg every few days. Others take a bit more.

How much are you taking now?
I am taking .5mg Tues and 1mg arimidex Fri. I have been on a lower dosage of Arimidex and had to raise due to continued high estrone.

Started taking 1mg or Deprenyl to raise dopamine=raise libido and planning on asking my doc to switch me from Arimidex to Proviron (raises free testosterone + aromatase inhibitor).

Any word on proviron to increase libido?
 
WillofChicago said:
I am taking .5mg Tues and 1mg arimidex Fri. I have been on a lower dosage of Arimidex and had to raise due to continued high estrone.

Started taking 1mg or Deprenyl to raise dopamine=raise libido and planning on asking my doc to switch me from Arimidex to Proviron (raises free testosterone + aromatase inhibitor).

Any word on proviron to increase libido?

If you really do live in Chicago, then you're going to have a hard time getting a prescription for proviron filled because it is not legally available in the U.S. However, you can always find it on an overseas pharmaceutical website.

I've been using proviron on and off for the last few months and I haven't really felt anything.
 
WillofChicago said:
Chip,

After 5 years of being overweight, sugar cravings, flying off the handle, what felt like high adrenaline coursing through my veins, terrible energy and sleepiness, being diagnosed with adrenal fatigue, ADD, dysthymia, too much partying, not getting enough sleep, all of which did not seem right to me, I sought to find an answer at any cost. The cost has turned out to be about $40,000 in tests, docs, supplements, travel, etc. and yet the problem was found, by accident within a set of tests that I took that included an ESTRONE level. After reading up on Estrone and realized it, in part, regulates the chain-reaction cascade of cholesterol to Pregnenolone and both testosterone and cortisol, I asked my doc to put me on Arimidex to stop the aromatization of testosterone to the various forms of estrogen and thereby stop the negative feedback which was stopping the chain reaction of cholesterol to Pregnenolone to DHEA to testosterone (over simplification but you get the idea).

After 2 weeks on Arimidex, sure enough, my high cholesterol came down from 290 to 230, my Pregnenolone went up from 7 to 192 (I won't be too technical with units of measurement, but you get the idea), and more importantly my sugar craving are gone, energy is back, and my weigh has come down on its own from 219 to 205 (I'm 6'1"), not to mention my stress seems to have relatively disappeared--almost to the point that I feel I am too calm and want it back. I believe I have been running on adrenaline that was taken from derived from what little Pregnenolone (the substance made from Cholesterol and can either be made into cortisol (from your adrenals) or made into androgen).


Ask your doc to test for estradiol (which he may have done), but more importantly, ESTRONE (another form of estrogen). (Some labs/docs may even resist giving you this test due to the fact that those without experience relative to the condition I describe may tell you the test is not pertinent for males.) The reason is, as you know, that testosterone is aromatized into estrogen, but estrogen exists in the body in various forms, one of which is estrone. Estrone and Estradiol for that matter, provide negative feedback for the conversion of Cholesterol (the mother of all hormones) into Pregnenolone which can then take the cascading chemical pathway of either producing DHEA & Testosterone AND/OR CORTISOL (as well as aldosterone but that is not pertinent to this discussion). Cholesterol is made into Pregnenolone when the body needs it and then Pregnenolone normally splits into both cortisol and testosterone pathways as needed. Health people have a balance of these 2 pathways...or more testosterone than cortisol (stress hormone).

In other words, Testosterone is actually regulated by the amount of estrogen that is derived from the aromatization of itself, i.e., the amount of estrogen that is produced from aromatization of the testosterone. High aromatization can equate to high levels of estradiol and/or estrone. If your body has an unusually high rate of aromatization into these forms of estrogen, then you could essentially have a low testosterone value, and high estradiol and/or estrone that is "tricking" your body into thinking too much testosterone is being made, therefore, despite your bodys testosterone being low, the body shuts down ACTH, which is needed to convert cholesterol to Pregnenolone and begin the process of making cortisol and/or testosterone.

Bottom line: estrone was shutting down the conversion of cholesterol to Pregnenolone which kept my body from naturally converting Pregnenolone to cortisol and/or testosterone. Since the body will literally die without cortisol, and since the body makes its cortisol from Pregnenolone and I had a minuscule amount (of pregnenolone) in my blood, the body "stole" the Pregnenolone that existed and made what cortisol it could from it. This is called "Pregnenolone steal" and it is basically diverting all of your Pregnenolone to cortisol, leaving you with little to no testosterone being made because it is being aromatized to estrone and the estrone shutting down the production of Pregnenolone and round and round. Because of this you end up with little to no androgens to balance your cortisol due to the chemical reaction being diverted away from them. It is this phenomenon that resulted in docs telling me I had adrenal fatigue.

This is the reason why people who are stressed have problems sexually, because the Pregnenolone pathway is diverted to the cortisol avenue instead of the testosterone avenue. Healthy people have a balance. It turned out that I couldnt maintain a balance due to ESTRONE "tricking" my body into thinking that it was making too much testosterone and shutting down the entire process or at least slowing it. Since are bodies will do anything to keep us from dying and zero cortisol would kill us, it takes the only thing it can to make cortisol--it takes your Pregnenolone (I was running on fumes). This is what leaves you stressed as hell and frazzled--your body has no chance of making androgens to balance the cortisol and maintaining a calm, natural homeostasis.

Check your Cholesterol, Pregnenolone, DHEA, Estrone and estradiol levels (don't worry about your cortisol levels as I am sure you have been through all the tests on your own), take arimidex (I take .5mg on Tues and 1mg on Fri) and watch your entire system come around (IF INDEED THIS IS THE PROBLEM YOU ARE HAVING). Then if you begin to feel better on Arimidex, you know that you are on the right path, so retest all of the above in 3 weeks and you should see your cholesterol come down, your Pregnenolone rise, stress decline, and your DHEA and testosterone rise (at least I did).

As it pertains to the problems listed above, I feel amazing now. However, the 2 months use of arimidex may have brought my estrogen levels down too well. Estrogen is needed in part by the male body for many things, among them, cognition, memory, and sexual response (as estrogen releases Nitric Oxide from cells of the brain, etc.), as a result, my memory is off and my libido is down from where it used to be. But no problem, I only now have to search for a good alternative to arimidex (a very powerful aromatase inhibitor and known to lower libido), and that you can find on your own or with help of your doc. But for purposes of aromatase inhibition (if estradiol and/or estrone too high), use Arimidex as it will leave no questions unanswered as to its power to stop your testosterone from aromatizing into estrogen.

Sorry for the redundancy and possible over simplified ramble but I stumbled upon this site looking for this arimidex alternative and don't intend to contribute any further and wanted to get everything down in the shortest period of time.

Hope this helps somehow.

Will
Hi will can you post your labs before Arimidex and after. Are you saying that doing just Arimidex did all of this and your not on TRT.
Also why did you add this post here why not make this a new thread so we will get more input on it.
 
I've just come home from my PCP's office, and he handed me my DHT test results I'd been waiting for for 2 1/2 months. Here goes :


DHT : 1 599 pmol/L reference range (male 20-49) 217 to 1650 pmol/L

Remember that my main concern is low or non-existent libido/sex drive. This blood test results makes something clear to me : low DHT isn't my problem. My bioavailable Testosterone is at midrange which my PCP says is healthy.

I mentioned to him that my TSH has been consistently above 2.0, but then he says my FT4 is way fine, and that there's no need to check for FT3--I think he's not correct in not checking for FT3. He told me that FT4 is converted into FT3, which I agreed, but pursued by saying that some doctors claim the conversion from FT4 to FT3 is not efficient in some individuals.

In the end he said that medically speaking, there's nothing wrong with me, and that I should consult with a sex therapist or psychologist.

I'm more and more inclined to think Dr. Eric Braverman's diagnosis of : Dysthymia and ADHD was correct.



The anxiety diagnosis would provide an explanation as to why : selenium, zinc, magnesium, B6, theanine, st-John's wort, and valerian work so well in restoring my libido.

Cheers
 
You should get free T3 checked no matter what he says as you are right about some people not converting T4 to T3 well. Since i started armour i noticed a huge difference. I just need to balance other things out now.
 
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