WWB Testing Group - A Few Oils and Pills

How do I join a testing group? I wanna put in an order for some basics at wwb but I want to be apart of some testing first
 
@ValidHeidegger

A few screen of gary saying you're all liars, didnt get refund or credit because WWB was not listed on his client jano test
 

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@ValidHeidegger

A few screen of gary saying you're all liars, didnt get refund or credit because WWB was not listed on his client jano test
That's ridiculous, totally defeats the purpose of blind testing.

Your video of opening the product and Jano's photo of it should be enough. I've had companies ask for my testing invoice also to prove it was my test.
 
@ValidHeidegger

A few screen of gary saying you're all liars, didnt get refund or credit because WWB was not listed on his client jano test

Im honestly not sure who im dealing with but the person im dealing with has been reasonable with me. Perhaps this is a new policy? No idea.

Putting their name on the Jano test is trivial. Jano is pretty easy to deal with, and you can ask them to change info post testing and so far they have been cooperative about it.
 
Have you tested their DNP? I want to know if it’s legit and not just trash. Btw can you give me the link to your group test pls?

I dont have any sort of dedicated testing group. I just organized this one here on Meso to test a bunch of WWB products. It was a one time thing.

Im actually a rather new member and new to AAS in general. I dont know much. Some of the more experienced board members might be able to direct you to testing groups.
 
The person who ordered can easily email Jano to change the name to WWB as manufacturer even after the report is issued. It is still a blind test.
 
I dont have any sort of dedicated testing group. I just organized this one here on Meso to test a bunch of WWB products. It was a one time thing.

Im actually a rather new member and new to AAS in general. I dont know much. Some of the more experienced board members might be able to direct you to testing groups.
Same here, I’m sending my mast 200 and primo 200 in from WWB soon and happy to share the results just cause I’ve not done it before, if anyone wants to help out
 
With a prescription?

$380 will get ~8,000 x Telmisartan 40mg from a number of reputable brands via India pharma vendors.

This is a common, cheap drug that’s really not something anyone bothers faking even in India. (8k 40mg tablets is $25 worth of API, the packaging costs far more) so as long as it’s a reputable pharma manufacturer, it’s going to be fine.
 
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$380 will get ~8,000 x Telmisartan 40mg from a number of reputable brands via India pharma vendors.

This is a common, cheap drug that’s really not something anyone bothers faking even in India. (8k 40mg tablets is $25 worth of API, the packaging costs far more) so as long as it’s a reputable pharma manufacturer, it’s going to be fine.
Ghoul, with all due respect. India pharma needs to be tested. They are not without flaws. I normally order 2000 at a time and send them off for testing just to be sure. I have had testing from India come back severely underdosed on other products, not Telmisartan.
 
Ghoul, with all due respect. India pharma needs to be tested. They are not without flaws. I normally order 2000 at a time and send them off for testing just to be sure. I have had testing from India come back severely underdosed on other products, not Telmisartan.

First, I appreciate the tremendous service you’ve done for the community and your testing philosophy generally. Your legendary rep here is well earned. I agree that of course ideally it’s better to test everything.

A reseller has to test everything.

Most end users have to be selective as to what they test though, and should focus on high risk UGL products.

I was simply making the point that $380 for testing UGL Telm makes no sense. It’s not practical for an end user when a telehealth prescription and filling a year’s supply from their local pharmacy is under $100.

In fact buying UGL Telm makes no sense for anyone period, when Pharma grade from India is cheaper, with COAs available from the manufacturer, and for the API used (Indian law requires those to be publically available, I’ve gotten them on request, though I know they can be faked).

IMO opinion meds that are easily available from actual pharma manufacturers, like BP or ED drugs for instance, should never be bought from UGLs.

UGLs have no tablet making expertise, use the same excipient mix for everything because they don’t have to do dissolution tests like pharma companies are required to. We know UGL tablet variability is all over the place, UGL should always be a last resort, for things you can’t source from pharma.

Speaking of getting it locally with a prescription, I wonder who made this generic I picked up from CVS….

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Ascend Labs in New Jersey.

That’s reassuring. No need to test this of course.

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Wait a sec, looks like it’s actually made by

“Inventia” in India.

A lot of generic med manufacturing is subcontracted out like this. I think 80% of US generic meds in pharmacies come from India.

It sounds familiar though.

I have a few boxes of 150 x Telm 40mg I got from India Pharma for $6.

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I chose Sanofi because they’re a large multinational generic pharma company that sells meds in the US. I figure that makes them more “reliable” since I can check with the FDA online to see the results of inspections (US FDA has an office in India), drug recalls etc.

Let me flip the blister pack over.


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Marketed by: is Indian code for “we used a subcontractor”. So Sanofi didn’t make this. Of course I’m a bit ADD and gone this far so I’m going to check out the actual manufacturer.



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That explains why the tabs look identical to what I got from CVS :)

(But the Indian aluminum blister pack is far superior to the US bottle, since Telm is extremely sensitive to humidity).

In my mind, an end user, with a finite testing budget could reasonable assume it’s the same product and use their testing dollars for checking a kit of whatever from HYB, GGB, WWB or another 3 letter wonder. If the testing budget is unlimited, I could argue testing the inventia Telm from both CVS and India would be best. The FDA doesn’t test every batch of tabs being imported, only a tiny fraction, though I think the odds are pretty good they’re identical.
 
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