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Hello everyone, I don't really post, I'm more of a lurker. However I'm asking advice from the community on next steps.
I'm an experienced user, well over 8 years. I'm also experienced on the side of infection when it comes to injection. I know the risk involved and I do everything in my power to mitigate. I had recently picked up a few vials of primo 200 from WWB to use in a blast getting ready for show comp. The pinning schedule is .8 test cyp 250, .8 primo 200 for now 3x/week.
I did my first injection of the primo 2 weeks ago which followed with some pretty bad pip in my VG. I thought nothing of it and let it resolve. I thought maybe it was a result of scar tissue in the VG giving me problems. I decided to do some new muscle rotations I hadn't done before, namely left and right pec. Took all the necessary steps to clean everything, standard protocol. No problem, except a little soreness after injecting right pec. Switched to left pec for next primo pin.
This was Tuesday I injected the right. Friday rolled around and my chest muscles started getting very tight in one muscle bad in the middle of my pec to the point where it's hard to my my arm. Pain is not radiating from the injection sight, rather where that muscle band meets my sternum (center chest). It's is warm to the touch at the center chest and the right pec has swollen larger than the left, but no redness, no discharge, no noticeable fever. Just really bad discomfort.
As a precaution I have cephalexin on deck and I decided better safe than sorry. The funny part is I have no problem with the left chest injection and no problem with a Friday right shoulder injection. It's just this one. I pinned with a 29g 1/2 in backloaded slin pin.

Any thoughts on what is going on here? Solvents? Bunk? Glaring mistakes on my part?

Anything helps.
 
Not bu
Mitchknx.ong said:
Hello everyone, I don't really post, I'm more of a lurker. However I'm asking advice from the community on next steps.
I'm an experienced user, well over 8 years. I'm also experienced on the side of infection when it comes to injection. I know the risk involved and I do everything in my power to mitigate. I had recently picked up a few vials of primo 200 from WWB to use in a blast getting ready for show comp. The pinning schedule is .8 test cyp 250, .8 primo 200 for now 3x/week.
I did my first injection of the primo 2 weeks ago which followed with some pretty bad pip in my VG. I thought nothing of it and let it resolve. I thought maybe it was a result of scar tissue in the VG giving me problems. I decided to do some new muscle rotations I hadn't done before, namely left and right pec. Took all the necessary steps to clean everything, standard protocol. No problem, except a little soreness after injecting right pec. Switched to left pec for next primo pin.
This was Tuesday I injected the right. Friday rolled around and my chest muscles started getting very tight in one muscle bad in the middle of my pec to the point where it's hard to my my arm. Pain is not radiating from the injection sight, rather where that muscle band meets my sternum (center chest). It's is warm to the touch at the center chest and the right pec has swollen larger than the left, but no redness, no discharge, no noticeable fever. Just really bad discomfort.
As a precaution I have cephalexin on deck and I decided better safe than sorry. The funny part is I have no problem with the left chest injection and no problem with a Friday right shoulder injection. It's just this one. I pinned with a 29g 1/2 in backloaded slin pin.

Any thoughts on what is going on here? Solvents? Bunk? Glaring mistakes on my part?

Anything helps.
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Not Bunk it tested well and I am on week 4 and done see great progress. The pip however is hard on me also. I use a 1.5 inch 25 gauge
 
High concentration primo is notorious for pip. Chinese brew? Guaranteed pip. Virgin muscle+high concentration CN primo? PIP x 10. You should know stuff like this after 8 years.
 
adrenalytic said:
High concentration primo is notorious for pip. Chinese brew? Guaranteed pip. Virgin muscle+high concentration CN primo? PIP x 10. You should know stuff like this after 8 years.
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That's why I'm asking if I should be concerned. I've had infections in the past, I'm just wondering if it's a problem with the gear or user error.
 
Mitchknx.ong said:
That's why I'm asking if I should be concerned. I've had infections in the past, I'm just wondering if it's a problem with the gear or user error.
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it's you not doing enough research into the chemicals you're injecting. Dilute the primo with sterile MCT oil or do daily injections of smaller doses. The pip will resolve over a few days. If the injection site becomes red and hot to the touch go to urgent care.
 
adrenalytic said:
it's you not doing enough research into the chemicals you're injecting. Dilute the primo with sterile MCT oil or do daily injections of smaller doses. The pip will resolve over a few days. If the injection site becomes red and hot to the touch go to urgent care.
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Would you consider it odd it doesn't hurt at injection site? It hurts where the muscle meets the center of my chest. The band of muscle from that point to my right side is tight.
 
Mitchknx.ong said:
Would you consider it odd it doesn't hurt at injection site? It hurts where the muscle meets the center of my chest. The band of muscle from that point to my right side is tight.
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The oil distributes once inside the muscle so it's not that farfetched. If the oil spread to that part of the muscle and then the solvents got absorbed by the body before the API could be absorbed, the API crashes inside the muscle, creating micro crystals which irritate the flesh. that's likely what's going on. Just have to wait it out and not do what you're doing again.
 
adrenalytic said:
The oil distributes once inside the muscle so it's not that farfetched. If the oil spread to that part of the muscle and then the solvents got absorbed by the body before the API could be absorbed, the API crashes inside the muscle, creating micro crystals which irritate the flesh. that's likely what's going on. Just have to wait it out and not do what you're doing again.
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So should I discontinue Cephalexin in your opinion?
 
adrenalytic said:
I'm not a doctor but it doesn't really have the hallmarks of an abscess. I wouldn't be taking antibiotics unless I was sure. You could be just making your body resistant for no reason.
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That's fair. And it's not lie it's bad gear, just Twice this has happened so it would make sense. And yeah virgin muscle. I'll start warming the vial before injecting. That'll prevent crashing
 
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Mitchknx.ong said:
So you're taking 100 now or you're taking .5 of the 200 stuff. Because I'm thinking it's solvents in the higher concentration
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I take 3 shot week 1ml npp 1ml primo .5ml Sustanon Monday Wednesday Thursday I take an extra .5 ml Sus in Saturdays. So 300npp 300primo 450 test and it’s been smooth since I went to the 100mg/ml
 
Mitchknx.ong said:
That's fair. And it's not lie it's bad gear, just Twice this has happened so it would make sense. And yeah virgin muscle. I'll start warming the vial before injecting. That'll prevent crashing
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Make sure to mix your oils like someone else already mentioned or buy some sterile MCT. And honestly bro, not trying to be a dick but these are rookie questions and mistakes. I'm having a hard time believing you've been doing this for 8 years.
 
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