WWB HGH fake?

I have been on 6iu SSA and I always got that feeling with the water retention in the hands better sleep, plus bloat and better pumps . After they got shut down I moved over to primal and was doing 8iu daily and was experiencing the same things I then bought from WWB for price reason the 36iu yellow cap hgh two 10x36iu and have been doing 10iu daily the last 3 days and feel nothing, no numbness in hands no better sleep but can't really tell if it just me going insane but I'm getting no sides from 10iu is anyone else who bought from them experienced this?
When did you buy it? One of their vials with yellow tops tested with abysmal purity, something like 70%, and severely underdosed, but other vials from same batch have tested fine. Have you tried more than one vial? If not maybe try a different one if your risk tolerance permits.
 
The worst / most pronounced GH side effects came when I was prescribed GH for a clinical deficiency, at a whopping 1.8 iu daily. had bad CTS for weeks, wrist / finger swelling, etc. It went away eventually, and when I decided to increase my dose (slowly) over many months to 4 iu and then 5 iu, I only experienced the sides transiently. IGF-1 has a nearly 2-day half-life so unless you start a new batch that is grotesquely over or under-dosed and / or take many weeks off, you likely wont get bad side effects (though there is quite a bit of variability from person to person on this). End of the day, WWB is a pretty good outfit. I'd be very skeptical that an entire batch is bunk, but what CAN happen with any UGL GH is that one vial here and there can be very under-dosed and / or have markedly lower purity.
 
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What OP is saying and I've been saying in multiple threads, the GH kits we've got from WWB/QSC don't have any effects, neither positive nor negative even at high doses.

And wannabe intellectuals like ballistic keep trying to argue it's in our head and that "feelings don't matter", and I'm saying water retention, sleep, acne, carpal tunnel and numbness is not a matter of feelings, I've got all of these effects in a very very pronounced way last summer when I did on average 3 IU a day for 3 weeks from SSA. Now I started directly with 6 then 8 IU s from QSC and I might as well inject water, there's nothing no sides no better sleep no nothing.
There are plenty of test reports out now on WWB bc they are pretty popular and I have only seen one that looked suspect at 90% purity
 
There are plenty of test reports out now on WWB bc they are pretty popular and I have only seen one that looked suspect at 90% purity
I’ve run several iterations of the three letter vendor GH’s (pretty sure they all originate from the same place). Never had any issues. Sure there were probably a few dud vials in there but for the price I’ve been quite pleased. Sometimes I treat myself to something more premium but as a daily beater WWB has been fine.
 
I’ve run several iterations of the three letter vendor GH’s (pretty sure they all originate from the same place). Never had any issues. Sure there were probably a few dud vials in there but for the price I’ve been quite pleased. Sometimes I treat myself to something more premium but as a daily beater WWB has been fine.
Same, and I have had mine tested.
 
Yea so 3 weeks of 2-3 IU s 8 months ago caused adapation to my body so now when I inject 6-8IU from the start I don't feel anything right, and this sound 100% like chatgpt wrote it lmao, "That isn't opinion, it's basics"

And my body somehow remained adapted 8 months later of not using GH and now even if I pin 4x the dose I don't feel anything hmm ok, or you re gonna say I have antibodies now

I didn't say it does, I said it's different, it's a probability it is bunk tho, or you trust these blackmarket bathtub GH vendors soo much because they test 1 vial out of 1 million at janoshik and then you pray yours is the same

Does your little brain comprehend what adaptation means? It shouldn't happen instantly, I didn't felt anything from the first 6IU dose then nothing from the subsequent 6 and 8 doses, or again you're saying the fact that I did GH for 3 weeks at a dose 3-4 times less 8 months ago means my body fully adapted to GH sides forever

And what exactly are those pharmacokinetics ? I take it at the same time, at a much bigger dosage

ok let me quote you

idiots like yourself argues one way then he finds out he proves my point argues the other way just so he can win the argument lmao


let's see what the chatgpt bot that you use and trained to just argue for you says about your statements

"It is a common misconception that "high-quality" pharmaceutical HGH shouldn't cause side effects. In reality, medical literature and clinical studies prove the exact opposite: water retention is one of the most common and predictable physiological effects of real Somatropin, regardless of the brand's quality.

The argument that "side effects = bad quality" is medically incorrect. In fact, if someone takes a high dose of pharmaceutical HGH and feels nothing (no joint tightness or slight water retention), it is often a sign the product is under-dosed or fake.

1. Does Pharma-Grade HGH Cause Water Retention?​

Yes. Every major pharmaceutical brand (Norditropin, Genotropin, Humatrope, etc.) explicitly lists "peripheral edema" (swelling of the hands and feet) as a common side effect in their prescribing information.

  • The Mechanism: HGH causes the kidneys to retain sodium and water by activating the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system (RAAS) and the sodium-potassium pump. This is a direct biological action of the growth hormone molecule itself, not a result of "impurities."
  • The "Purity" Myth: In the 1980s, early HGH derived from cadavers had impurities that caused issues. Modern recombinant (rhGH) is over 99% pure. The water retention you feel today is the hormone working on your kidneys, not your body reacting to "dirty" fillers.

2. What the Studies Show​

Clinical data shows that side effects are highly dose-dependent.

  • Low Dose (0.5 – 2.0 IU/day): Often used for anti-aging or GH deficiency. At this level, water retention is usually mild or non-existent in healthy individuals.
  • Moderate Dose (4.0 – 6.0 IU/day): Frequently used by athletes. Studies show a significant increase in Extracellular Water (ECW) at these levels. In one study of healthy young adults taking supraphysiological doses, extracellular water increased by nearly 10% within weeks.
  • High Dose (8.0+ IU/day): At these levels, the incidence of side effects like "moon face" (facial edema), carpal tunnel syndrome (from fluid pressing on the wrist nerves), and joint pain becomes nearly universal.

3. Dosage and Side Effect Relationships​

The relationship is a classic dose-response curve: the higher the dose, the more severe the side effects.

The "Sign of Quality": While extreme side effects aren't desirable, the presence of mild water retention and carpal tunnel-like symptoms is actually a classic indicator that the HGH is biologically active."
You're a fucking idiot, embarrassing. I've been using SSA GH36 the black tops with multiple tests, I've even sent one of my vials and came back 39iu and I've never experienced any sides from GH. Does that mean it's bunk too? QSC is the exact same black tops, no sides. I've ran SSA up to 10iu without sides. Doesn't mean it's bunk.
 
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