Wuhan Wansheng Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (USA, International)

You can get an approximation but it won't be precise.

You need to add BA/BB testing which is $30.
GCMS gives you EO, BA/BB gives you BA/BB.
Remaining is raws + oil.

You don't know the raw purity. It can be 90% or 15%. Who knows. More raws, less oil, vice versa. I usually just assume 20% EO or more. EO doesn't affect me, it's just not optimal for long term storage.
Thank you for letting me know. For $30 no worries, I’ll add that to the testing when I get my quote.
 
I recently got a few of bottles of var 25 from wwb and the pills are white. I asked about the color discrepancy, response was all pills are going to be white going forward because of custom
Huh. Does customs only perceive colored pills? Like a T Rex can only sense motion?
maybe they can put a white label on the package and the whole package will be invisible for customs. Boom
 
Order from WWB arrived today - SUS250 and BU300. I will send samples to Jano for testing. If anyone would like to contribute to the testing and donate some $, please send me PM. Thanks.
 
Wwb increased price too? I just ordered yesterday a kit of test 130 and some tren e 45 each vial cuz i keep procrastinating ordering brewing supplies

For $45, why not get from US Dom?
There's a gorilla here selling it at 42$

(I've never bought, buy at your own risk, as always)
 
For $45, why not get from US Dom?
There's a gorilla here selling it at 42$

(I've never bought, buy at your own risk, as always)
I've used wwb before and again my tracking is showing 2 days from payment to delivery. Last time I ordered from a domestic no name source it took 12 days to get my package. I also doubt your gorilla has $13 vials of test. Well, he probably does, but is selling them for multiple times the $13 he got them for from a chinese source.
 
I've used wwb before and again my tracking is showing 2 days from payment to delivery. Last time I ordered from a domestic no name source it took 12 days to get my package. I also doubt your gorilla has $13 vials of test. Well, he probably does, but is selling them for multiple times the $13 he got them for from a chinese source.
Doubtful his test is rebranded Chinese. Not that hard to brew some test up. But definitely not $13. Although I was impressed to see the prop at $17.
 
I've used wwb before and again my tracking is showing 2 days from payment to delivery. Last time I ordered from a domestic no name source it took 12 days to get my package. I also doubt your gorilla has $13 vials of test. Well, he probably does, but is selling them for multiple times the $13 he got them for from a chinese source.
Shipping is also $50, which is alot higher than domestic sources. Many people filter chinese oils because they use low quality vials and stoppers. Chinese oils may have contaminants and harsher solvents like EO. Some people have problems with EO while other people prefer it. Personally, I dont think I would spend $45 on chinese tren and would probably order domestic for it. But I did buy some test c from a chinese supplier
 
SSA and alot of other chinese vendors say the same thing, no EO. The only way to know for sure is have it tested in a lab. Like I said, I'll buy chinese oils if they are cheap. But if it is the same price as domestic sources, I'd buy domestic
I didn't realize many of them claim no EO. It's too bad they couldn't just do BA and BB, the we could just filter through a 0.22 and be gtg
 
I didn't realize many of them claim no EO. It's too bad they couldn't just do BA and BB, the we could just filter through a 0.22 and be gtg
I'm not sure most of them claim no EO, some of them are open about using EO if you ask them. On SSAs price list, it says their oils are in MCT and use benzyl benzoate (20%) and benzyl alcohol (2%) which is similar to domestic brews. I haven't asked them specifically if they use EO, but it seems common practice in china. Mct is pretty thin by itself, so EO isnt really necessary. But with GSO it's more common because it thins the oil. But floaters in chinese oils are common, whereas domestic sources are less common. Also the cheap vials and stoppers are issues of concern with chinese oils
 
I'm not sure most of them claim no EO, some of them are open about using EO if you ask them. On SSAs price list, it says their oils are in MCT and use benzyl benzoate (20%) and benzyl alcohol (2%) which is similar to domestic brews. I haven't asked them specifically if they use EO, but it seems common practice in china. Mct is pretty thin by itself, so EO isnt really necessary. But with GSO it's more common because it thins the oil. But floaters in chinese oils are common, whereas domestic sources are less common. Also the cheap vials and stoppers are issues of concern with chinese oils

EO is cheap.
Has shorter shelf life -- good for business. Longer lasting products are bad for business - planned obsolescence at its finest.
Has good solvent properties -- prevents oil from crashing in winter.
 
EO is cheap.
Has shorter shelf life -- good for business. Longer lasting products are bad for business - planned obsolescence at its finest.
Has good solvent properties -- prevents oil from crashing in winter.
Yeah I did read about the shelf life of EO being shorter and it makes sense that they would mix EO with MCT to reduce costs, same as using cheap vials and stoppers. I think I read that EO is a carrier oil with really good solvent properties and some people have brewed with only EO. I dont think theres a way to tell without specifically testing for it at jano, which is expensive I think. I've also read that EO toxicity is overstated, with some people saying it is pretty much harmless and that even some pharma grade oil has used it for a time. I'm not entirely sure, but I can definitely see chinese vendors using it to cut costs. Guaiacol is definitely more toxic and it smells, so it's harder for them to hide from consumers. I haven't ever tried chinese oils, but I recently ordered some from SSA to give it a try. The price of oils is expensive and I have a feeling it is about to get alot worse unfortunately. Hopefully I am wrong about that. More chinese vendors are starting to stock oils, so hopefully that is a good sign for raws
 
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