Wuhan Wansheng Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (USA, International)

[TheHaus88]

Did you ever order from QSC?

There's a huge difference is customer service when you purchase from a CN vendor selling steroids for $9 a vial vs a domestic source selling for $35+ a vial.

Keep bugging them until they refund you or ship the goods. If you get the goods or refund within 30-60 days, it's an utilmate win.

Is that okay or what we should want? No. But that's the expectation for these CN vendors most the time.

I'm familiar with many sources and many sales members at different sources, You do get what you pay for. I was never told to eat dog shit like others but I haven't bought from Tracy, QSC had more than a few people on the sales staff, some were better than others. Since the big shake up it looks like people are desperate and struggling. Which source has been unfazed by the disruption in raws? I'm curious. If other sellers are not having issues and can do a better job who are they? I was told everyone has been affected.

 

[canes]

I'm familiar with many sources and many sales members at different sources, You do get what you pay for. I was never told to eat dog shit like others but I haven't bought from Tracy, QSC had more than a few people on the sales staff, some were better than others. Since the big shake up it looks like people are desperate and struggling. Which source has been unfazed by the disruption in raws? I'm curious. If other sellers are not having issues and can do a better job who are they? I was told everyone has been affected.

Seems like most CN direct vendors have had issues.

A ton of domestic operations seemed to have stocked up on raws and are working through them. Ive bought from 4-5 domestic operations and 2 CN ones in the last month. Will order from another CN one at the end of May.

We will see what happens to the domestic guys once they need to restock/use new raws. Test your shit

 

[Whistles77]

Seems like most CN direct vendors have had issues.

A ton of domestic operations seemed to have stocked up on raws and are working through them. Ive bought from 4-5 domestic operations and 2 CN ones in the last month. Will order from another CN one at the end of May.

We will see what happens to the domestic guys once they need to restock/use new raws. Test your shit

Next batch of Primo to arrive in US warehouse is definitely going to need testing.

 

[YetiMusk]

First order of Test P raws came back at 96%+ so I placed an order for some Test C and E raws.

On the order for Test P, Jack/ @Wansheng Biotechnology offered product purity guarantee of 94%. When confirming guarantee for this next order, I was informed it was now 90%. Red flag - I should have known better at this point.

Test C results:



I’m done with WS Labs/WWB now, and it appears he’s done with me too, as I’ve been given the Soup Nazi treatment:


At $7-800/kg, it’s just not worth it to me.

 

[pipo]

First order of Test P raws came back at 96%+ so I placed an order for some Test C and E raws.

On the order for Test P, Jack/ @Wansheng Biotechnology offered product purity guarantee of 94%. When confirming guarantee for this next order, I was informed it was now 90%. Red flag - I should have known better at this point.

Test C results:

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I’m done with WS Labs/WWB now, and it appears he’s done with me too, as I’ve been given the Soup Nazi treatment:

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At $7-800/kg, it’s just not worth it to me.

Are you serious?

 

[The-Squat]

First order of Test P raws came back at 96%+ so I placed an order for some Test C and E raws.

On the order for Test P, Jack/ @Wansheng Biotechnology offered product purity guarantee of 94%. When confirming guarantee for this next order, I was informed it was now 90%. Red flag - I should have known better at this point.

Test C results:

View attachment 328633

I’m done with WS Labs/WWB now, and it appears he’s done with me too, as I’ve been given the Soup Nazi treatment:

View attachment 328636
At $7-800/kg, it’s just not worth it to me.

When was this order because it seems most of us are told out of stock? Unless this isn't US domestic.

Never seen test c that low and they claim it
s the best batch yet!

 

[YetiMusk]

When was this order because it seems most of us are told out of stock? Unless this isn't US domestic.

Never seen test c that low and they claim it
s the best batch yet!

Early April order, US domestic.

Agreed, it’s laughable that this was their “best batch yet” but 6-9 months after manufacturing, my best guess based on news available regarding raw manufacturers, it’s degraded this badly (or started off terrible to begin with).

 

[pipo]

Early April order, US domestic.

Agreed, it’s laughable that this was their “best batch yet” but 6-9 months after manufacturing, my best guess based on news available regarding raw manufacturers, it’s degraded this badly (or started off terrible to begin with).

Not first time test c test at 92%. When there was no issue regarding manufacturing of raws was tested at 92%.
Also take in consideration that Jano has error of some %. It could be 96%.
92% isn't terrible as you call it...

 

[YetiMusk]

Not first time test c test at 92%. When there was no issue regarding manufacturing of raws was tested at 92%.
Also take in consideration that Jano has error of some %. It could be 96%.
92% isn't terrible as you call it...

You’re right, but the supplier would call it out as no good and issue a refund. Even Tracy refunded Test that came back under 94%!

This is a sucky batch. If you love 92% purity test c for these prices by all means, I bet he has more; I encourage you to scoop it up, bro.

 

[pipo]

You’re right, but the supplier would call it out as no good and issue a refund. Even Tracy refunded Test that came back under 94%!

This is a sucky batch. If you love 92% purity test c for these prices by all means, I bet he has more; I encourage you to scoop it up, bro.

Suppliers tell you what you want to hear but you must read between the lines. Same as that story with EO in oils. They tell you that don't contain but they do and supplier can't do anything about it because they sell what is available and it's produced

I love a 92% purity rather than nothing. If you are pressed to buy raws you get what is available.
Was a guy in Buck topic that wanted a refund for a 90% mast e but 90% is better than nothing given the situation now. Everything above 90% isn't terrible imo. Is usable but you can have higher standards and it's ok

 

[bighunanballs]

First order of Test P raws came back at 96%+ so I placed an order for some Test C and E raws.

On the order for Test P, Jack/ @Wansheng Biotechnology offered product purity guarantee of 94%. When confirming guarantee for this next order, I was informed it was now 90%. Red flag - I should have known better at this point.

Test C results:

View attachment 328633

I’m done with WS Labs/WWB now, and it appears he’s done with me too, as I’ve been given the Soup Nazi treatment:

View attachment 328636
At $7-800/kg, it’s just not worth it to me.

Ya that test c is shit unfortunately. 92% on test c is bad production parameters.

 

[MadaFacor]

Test E 250 tested well from a large group buy. However, multiple buyers reporting particals not normally seen when crashed. I will try warming and report back but this is not anything I have seen. Thoughts?

 

[scsafan]

Update: Still no refund and no product. He’s just ignoring messages at this point he’s probably out of excuses to buy time. I would steer clear for now

 

[BamaCrazy]

Update: Still no refund and no product. He’s just ignoring messages at this point he’s probably out of excuses to buy time. I would steer clear for now

Yep. For 10 days he just kept lying about the refund. Now he’s also ignoring my messages. I guess you will be ok if you buy something in stock. But the moment you pay for something they don’t have you are screwed.

 

[scsafan]

Yep. For 10 days he just kept lying about the refund. Now he’s also ignoring my messages. I guess you will be ok if you buy something in stock. But the moment you pay for something they don’t have you are screwed.

yeah scapegoating to “finance” department will only work for so long. Looking more and more like scammers

 

[MuscularMD]

Test E 250 tested well from a large group buy. However, multiple buyers reporting particals not normally seen when crashed. I will try warming and report back but this is not anything I have seen. Thoughts?

Shoot. I just noticed the same in a few of my vials I ordered recently. WTH…

 

[Photon]

Shoot. I just noticed the same in a few of my vials I ordered recently. WTH…

Re-filter it using a .22 filter..Might just be extra protein.

 

[bighunanballs]

Shoot. I just noticed the same in a few of my vials I ordered recently. WTH…

They look like crashed gear. Y'all should try heating and it should clear up

 

[canes]

Shoot. I just noticed the same in a few of my vials I ordered recently. WTH…

That's just oils. Imo. Heat it up and filter before use.

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

Test E 250 tested well from a large group buy. However, multiple buyers reporting particals not normally seen when crashed. I will try warming and report back but this is not anything I have seen. Thoughts?

wrap a hand around it, blow your hot azz breath on it for a minute or two, and it should clear right up lol.
You can get a cheap mug warmer for situations like this and itll not only uncrash your gear, but make it easier to pin by warming up thus thining out the oil a bit