Why the aversion of tren for bulking

You know u were an elf pupil at one point:rolleyes:

I never made it past 25 posts on that board.
I ain’t playin dungeons and dragons, dick gobbling make believe facts that aren’t true.

All that simply to gain access to sources that were private there but public every fuckin place else lol

Clown shit
 
I never made it past 25 posts on that board.
I ain’t playin dungeons and dragons, dick gobbling make believe facts that aren’t true.

All that simply to gain access to sources that were private there but public every fuckin place else lol

Clown shit
I think it's funny to read them ask gh15 questions gh15 style lol XD
 
I guess I'm in the minority when it comes to tren response. My first tren cycle was tren ace @50mg/day for a cut and i COULD NOT lose weight, my strength skyrocketed, and I looked fuller than ever. Waited a couple years, struggled to put on size with deca and test, and finally tried tren e @500mg + test e @500mg/ week for a bulk, put on over 30lbs in 10 weeks, probably added only 2% bodyfat, and EVERYONE asked me wtf i was on, gym bros, coworkers, family, everyone. I struggle with deca for whatever reason, so I'm honestly sticking to tren for every cycle going forward haha
 
I ran Tren A and E, but I don't remember where I was, who I was, or what happened. I did put on some mass though. Super vascular.
I was literally ignorant. It was a wild ride and gave me a respect for Tren.
I was experimenting to see where the sweet spot was.
I had ran Test only, High Test only. High Test High Deca, High Test Low Deca.
LET'S TRY TREN YAAAAY!

First Tren A run, up to 80mg ED by week 8.
Sweet spot was 60mg ED.

Then dropped Tren A and ran Tren E 800mg/wk for another 10.
That's 18 weeks.
Once it all cleared, I forgot what good sleep was like. That was my main side effect. Trensomnia.
Once you come off, it's like Chris Farley rolling down the hill and saying "what the hell was that all about".
The anger I feel comes from lack of deep sleep, leads to irritability.
I was in denial about what it was doing to me psychologically. However what do you expect from high doses for so long.
Miraculously my blood work was not horrible and is normal now.

I am cool with Tren now.
I can tell you I only need to run Tren A for last 4 weeks of summer blast at around 75mg ED to get results I need.
I don't use it for bulking,, but I sometimes add Tren E to a Test E and Deca blast at around 300mg/wk.
 
Back years ago they were.

You can get 50g of raw for roughly $500, versus 8g of of fina pellets for that price. I’d say no right now.
Does that mean the "cart" from Lambert vet supply that comes with 10 200mg doses will only yield 2 10mg vials of tren A at 100mg?

Meaning 2 vials of tren A will cost me 125?
 
And actually when it’s all said and done correctly, and depending on how you dose it it safe to say you can make it 150mg/ml but it will only yield 10 maybe 12ml total. You must account for the binders and such.

I say 150mg/ml because that’s how I used to brew mine towards the end. But you get the drift.
 
Why make this so complicated? You want mass? 100 mg tren eod along with200-300 test will make you as big as you want, you wont want to stop running it. There are many thoughts on this, worked for me, sure i ran it to long but fuck, that superman, stompin around like a T rex, morning. Road rage after coughing your lungs inside out.
 
Why make this so complicated? You want mass? 100 mg tren eod along with200-300 test will make you as big as you want, you wont want to stop running it. There are many thoughts on this, worked for me, sure i ran it to long but fuck, that superman, stompin around like a T rex, morning. Road rage after coughing your lungs inside out.

Check out the thread. Lots of guys can't bulk or gain weight on tren. For some it kills appetite, heartburn and for others they recomp but metabolism so fast they have trouble eating enough.

Not all but some portion.
 
Some of you can offset the loss of appetite by taking ghrp-6 3x a day. It doesn’t work for me but it’ll work for most of you.
 
Breaking through bodyweight plateaus isn't going to be easy with a decent dose of tren.

I MIGHT give it a shot again in the future, something like 600-750 test with 150-200mg tren
 
Like others have said, I to lost my appetite and drive so it was pointless for me to continue to cycle it. I thought about peptides but I'm in no rush to run then again, and at that point I might as well just add HGH into my rotation instead.
 
Yeah, when cattle pellets were made, they were made stereoisomerically pure.

Today, I believe all trenbolone on market is 50:50 mixture of the two steroisomers, one of which is less active than the other one.


"In stereochemistry, stereoisomers are isomeric molecules that have the same molecular formula and sequence of bonded atoms (constitution), but differ in the three-dimensional orientations of their atoms in space."

Good example to show importance of this would be thalidomide.

Thalidomide-structures.png


One of them is active and one of them doesn't work at all.
Fantastic. Thank you.



Do you have any data supporting UG tren uses racemic mixture of 17-alpha and 17-beta trenbolone. That would be pretty lame to only get 50% useful tren in your gear. Divide the HPLC ng/ml by 2?
 
I can’t believe people are commenting on this stupid thread I posted all those years ago…

I can’t even take tren anymore, even 100 mgs a week make me have palpitations, if I take 200 I start going hypo and 0 appetite ….
 
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